Michael Vick

“here is Michael Vick's crime History
Inside wsbradio.com


Michael Vick Timeline
March 2005: Ron Mexico (more)
November 2006: Fans Get "The Finger" (more)
January 2007: Airport Water Bottle Incident (more)
April 2007: Vick MIA on Capitol Hill (more)
April 2007: Dog Fighting Investigation Begins (more)
June 2007: AirTran Drops Vick as Spokesman (more)
July 2007: Vick and 3 others indicted on federal charges (more)
web address http://wsbradio.com/inside/newsletter/071807_vick_timeline.html
last edited: 7/18/07 12:50:58 PM”

“here is the web address
http://wsbradio.com/inside/newsletter/071807_vick_timeline.html”

“So um Don when will the National Thugball (Basketball) Association....be offering him a job?”

“soon”

“I think I heard that his indictment is covering seven different states.”

“Thats a lot of paper”

“I support dog fighting.

LNT = LDH”

“toejam I hope you are kidding if not you are sick as he if he is found guilty”

“I don't support dog fighting, but he hasn't been convicted of this donnorton.”

“Iss jus fuego, but I don't like dogs.”

“I can see it now.. "Your honor.. my client couldn't have possibly known what was going on at his property in (fill in the blank) because he was away from the premises for (fill in appropriate duration) for the purpose of (fill in the activity).”

“Put him in a ring, covered in beef blood and let loose the 55 pits in his possession.”

“NAACP will bail him out..................”

“I kill and eat animals. Dog fighting is nothing.”

“why start a second thread, dn? 3 threads, if you count the one tango already scooped you on”

“Vick has a multi year deal with Nike, here is my email to them.

I must write to you and register my dissatisfaction with your company not standing up and being counted as a leader with respect to Vick's indictment. How your company can stand by a man (and I use that term loosely) that competes and participates in dog fights and the cruelty to these animals is unbelievable. It seems to me that to stand by a man that enjoys animals ripping the flesh and fighting to the death is reprehensible. I have been a quite loyal customer of yours over the years, but unless I see your company stand up and be counted and say we will not stand behind a cruel, callous, heartless man, I will go elsewhere for my athletic shoe needs.

I hope you're a company that has a conscience and is not about the almighty dollar and damn everything else.

Thank you for reading this.

Stephanie”

“I never knew your name...”

“thats what she said”

“until he is actually convicted, it wouldnt be right for nike to drop vick

if and when he is convicted, i hope they drop him like a stone”

“People can do wrong and not be convicted. I will not support a company that doesn't get that. Just look at Imus...not convicted of anything. I'm just tired of a lot of atheletes that are not grateful for what they have (not saying they didn't work hard for it) but it is a privilege to play pro sports, and I wish a few of these hot shot dunce heads would fall so others would realize that fact.”

“People can do wrong and not be convicted. I will not support a company that doesn't get that. Just look at Imus...not convicted of anything.


Tango... I am confused. Are you saying Imus should have been dismissed? Or that as he was not convicted He should have been dealt with differently? I think I know your answer, I just want to make sure I understand your statement. :?)”

“Should have been dismissed. Just like I wouldn't support any company that hired oj simpson, or kobe bryant, or the myriad of others.”

“People can do wrong and not be convicted

agreed. however, it has not been proved that he did wrong. you and i know he's probably a POS, but nike, as a large and influential presence in the mass media, have an ethical responsibility to not drop him based on "well, you and i know he did it"

Just look at Imus...not convicted of anything

they shouldnt have dropped him, either. very cowardly

I'm just tired of a lot of atheletes that are not grateful for what they have (not saying they didn't work hard for it) but it is a privilege to play pro sports, and I wish a few of these hot shot dunce heads would fall so others would realize that fact.”

amen to that”

“I am voting to can his ass with my consumer dollars. He is involved either way and I want Nike to kick him to the curb. Now his position with the Falcons is a bit different, they should suspend him when he is indicted. Too much controversy for the team to deal with and they do have the ole moral turpitude clause and action detrimental to the team.

When I was a Deputy for Osceola County we raided a dog fighting place. It was one of the most heinous and horrendous things I've ever seen. It was disgusting and I am so glad I have will power.
last edited: 7/18/07 5:42:19 PM”

“i agree that youre doing the right thing. the pressuring of nike should start right away, so that if he is convicted, they have no excuse for hesitating”

“People lose endorsement contracts for a variety of reasons. I would not be surprised if the Vick ads are pulled from the air. That takes a certain amount of time to occur. Bad publicity is not something that suits an endorsement contract.

By the same token, removing a portion of ones livlihood, {whether they _need_ it or not}, based solely on an accusation which has not been found to be true, {and an indictment is not a conviction} is prejudging the situation, IMHO.

It is _possible_ but I suspect very unlikely, that Vick was unaware of the things going on on the property.

I think there is a difference here between Imus and Vick. Imus was caught with his foot in his mouth. Vick is yet to be tried. Personally I think Nike could do better for a spokesperson. Not because of the indictment, but I think Vick's popularity is ebbing. But if they "drop him" _now_, they will be casting a vote for guilty. Rather, pull the ads, let the dust settle and reassess when it is over.

To publicly drop him immediately might actually be a grounds for appeal should he be found guilty. "Extensive publicity tainted the jury pool."”

“The extensive publicity is already there no matter if Nike drops him. It's on ESPN, the NFL channel, and CNN, not to mention the morning shows.”

“Another reason I'm glad to not have t.v. Ignorance truly can be bliss. Right, CB?”

“Please understand I am not responding to _your_ decision or your pressure. Simply musing.

I don't have TV either.
last edited: 7/18/07 6:05:17 PM”

“Okay, I didn't believe you were attacking me. I was just an information disseminator.”

“I kill and eat animals. Dog fighting is nothing.”
bacpac
1:56:38 PM
7/18/07

Do you do THIS to the animals you kill to eat?






”

“No, I cut the heads off.”

“Tango, should you lose your job if you were indicted of something?”

“His job is to use his Reputation to sell Nike products. It doesn't matter if he gets convicted or not. If his reputation is spoiled enough that he can't perform his job then he should be terminated.”

“I just heard a big football supporter say,"Look he is an employee of a company, until he is convicted nothing should happen."

WELL BULLHOCKEY! He is a sports star, paid to bring customers into the stands. I wonder what would happen at every game if those pictures were held up for the world to see. Every time he approaches the end zone photos of those dogs are held up (ala the baseball player's salary behind home plate years ago)?

No he gets paid exhorbitant amounts to do what he does. You know a cop or other public official recieving less than an insignificant percentage of his payment would lose pay and their job if such a thing came out.

bacpac...I see your point, but I am pretty sure you do not torture your animals before you kill them.”

“You know a cop or other public official recieving less than an insignificant percentage of his payment would lose pay and their job if such a thing came out.

two wrongs dont make a right

i want to see him go down HARD. but it has to be done right”

“cb - three lefts make a right.”

“What crash said! The guy has not been convicted of anything yet. We are innocent until proven guilty in this country.”

“dont get geometrical on me”

“There have been some pretty good discussions on sports talk radio out of B'ham on this. Evidently, this stuff is common in certain areas of B'ham. You have black callers calling in saying it's common and white caller saying they had no idea and are shocked. At the same time, you drive around in the countryside and see triagle shaped chicken houses everywhere. Most everyone knows that these are for cockfighting (c ockfighting in case the filter caught it). These are white areas. A caller asked where the white outrage was on that variety of animal fighting. I never heard anyone give an answer to that.”

“well if some hi profile good ole boy gets caught, im sure there will be outrage”

“They used that as an example. What if this were Brett Favre instead of Vick. Would the outrage be the same? I thought it was a valid question.”

““I kill and eat animals. Dog fighting is nothing.”
bacpac
3:56:38 PM
7/18/07

Bacpac it is idiots like you that give hunting a bad rap. The sportsman will kill as quickily and cleanly as possible. Hunting is a tradition that I hope endures. Comments like yours just gives the anti-hunting crowd the ammo they need to protest something that I love. I have never told this to any poster here, but I never wish to spend time with you in the wilderness.”

“PS, don't google "Ron Mexico" with the images feature. Even with safe mode on you'll see things you'd prefer not to.”

““They used that as an example. What if this were Brett Favre instead of Vick. Would the outrage be the same? I thought it was a valid question.”
dayhiker
6:02:53 AM
7/19/07

I don't see why there would be any difference. I would hope that it is the act and not the person that is considered. I would however like to see a much higher standard in all pro sports. I know these guys are not real heros but kids across the country look up to them.”

“dh, you just know that for every person thatll take your advice, youve just given reason for five more to go look”

“cb - really?”

“ummmm no?”

“What time is it in Korea?”