Minimum Wage

“Going from 5.15 to 5.85....lets see what this does to the job market.”

“hey we dont do fuego anymore. now we just btch about everyone on the board”

“OOOPs...sorry my bad....

Elise/Capt Bobo/and whoever else is in charge...I apologize...sorry....”

“It's been $7.15 since January here.”

“XL, you're implying it may hurt the job market?

They raised the minimum wage in my state to $7.93 and the job market is better than it's been in a loooong time (4.5% unemployment).

Even with the raise, the Fed. minimum is still way low - it works out to a bit over $12K a year. Hard for anyone to live on that.”

“everything is a commie plot”

“A hedge fund manager now will make $5,850.00/hr?”

“That minumum wage rant contributed to Republicans getting kicked to the curb.  Keep up the good work.”

“We will see....LOL”

“XL likes having a slave class...”

“Minimum wage was NEVER intended to be a living wage.”

“and it never has been.”

“Its called an ENTRY level wage. It is primarily earned by kids beginning their careers (and living at home), retirees (just getting something to do) and much less than 10% are (in 1996 I think it was 5%) supporting a family.

Tell me now what MAJOR corporation pays just minimum wage? Heck even at EVIL WalMart they move you up quick.

The funny thing is this will make it harder for the Smaller Guy to keep going...(LOL) and wow...I thought you libbies were for the SMALL businessman.”

“Ever read "Nickled and Dimed to Death" XL? Lots of places still pay minimum wage, no bennies, SprawlMart being one of them.”

“Starbuck announced their coffee is going up nine cents a cup.”

“Rosey, I worked for the evil empire for a time. I'm not aware of any jobs that do not pay above minimum wage. That being said, each store sets its own wages with the approval of the district manager. In theory some could be at minimum, but I doubt it. They screw their people in other ways.”

“LOL>>>ARRRRRGH (ALARM NOISE) YOU ARE WRONG.

I have a freind who started at minimum wage...he was there for less than 6 months. He now makes around $10.00 an hour...(with benefits)....HMMMMMM>

IF getting the employees more money why not go with a fair tax which gives them their entire salary.”

“We all subsidize low wage earners and especially those with little or no employer-provided health insurance by way of cash assistance and food stamps and medicaid.

Here in Maryland the state legislature enacted a law that would have required Y'allMart to pay more in health insurance costs.
The shortfall in health care cost was being paid for by the taxpayers, thereby subsidizing SprawlMart's profits.
It did not fly though, the courts shot it down.
Nice try on the part of the state...........self-defense.....save the taxpayers some dough, or at least try.”

“The minimum wage should not be a fed issue like the rest of the 98% of the crap it does that should be State and local.”

“Marky, are you sure you want the state (or feds) telling companies what they should pay, or what benefits they should provide?”

“They (the states) make it their own issue. Here in CA, the minimum wage is at least $6.25.”

“Like I said, Probe, the state of Maryland enacted that law in self-defense.

They were doing their job......working in the interest of the citizens of this state to save the taxpayers money.

Marky, are you sure you want the state (or feds) telling companies what they should pay, or what benefits they should provide?”

On a case-by-case basis, MAYBE.
Politics are local, a wise man once said.

You seem to be painting with a very broad brush, I was using a narrow one.
And you're telling me what I want.”

“Not telling you anything. Learn to read. That funny shaped thing at the end of the sentence was a question mark. That means I was asking a question.

And I meant to use a broad brush. Governments works incrementally. First minimum wage, then maximum wage (I'm sure the libbies would like that!) Then how much for this job, how much for that job. Personally I don't want any of that. I'm not as opposed to the states doing it as I am the feds.”

“I don't see why the federal government needs to regulate minimum wage. First of all, how does Washington come up with an absolute number that is fair across the board? Second, does such a number even exist?

For example, the cost of living in a place like West Virginia is far less than the cost of living in a place like New Jersey. Would it be fair if unskilled workers in West Virginia doing the same type of work as their counterparts in New Jersey had almost twice the buying power? Hardly...

To me, regulating minimum wage even at the state level is questionable. Minimum wage is really a local issue that is dependent on cost of living in that area. Even here in New Jersey, the cost of living say, Burlington County (southern New Jersey) is very significantly less than the cost of living in say, Bergen County (northern New Jersey), which comprises mostly of affluent white-collared suburban neighborhoods right outside of New York City. $100 goes a lot further in southern New Jersey than it does in northern New Jersey -- from things as simple as buying gas for your car to bigger things like your mortgage payment or apartment rent.”

“Coffee is up almost a dime a cup and you knuckle heads don't even care.”

“"Its called an ENTRY level wage. It is primarily earned by kids beginning their careers (and living at home), retirees (just getting something to do) and much less than 10% are (in 1996 I think it was 5%) supporting a family."
- XL400236

You're so full of #&%!$ I can smell you from here.

Most minimum wage earners are adults. In families with children under 18, about one third of minimum wage earners are the sole breadwinner for the family (read single parent).

Why would deny your fellow citizens a very modest raise?”

“Most minimum wage earners are waiters and waitresses.”

“No - most work in retail.

Stop making stuff up.”

“Then how do most minimum wage earners live in households above the poverty line?”

“Multiple wage earners per household? Overtime?”

“"And I meant to use a broad brush. Governments works incrementally. First minimum wage, then maximum wage (I'm sure the libbies would like that!)"

Probe, you are paranoid.

And you did imply that I want this to happen.

My answer was below.....
On a case-by-case basis, MAYBE.
Politics are local, a wise man once said.

I related the story, I didn't write the legislation.
And this piece of legislation was targeted at WalMart, since they were creating a problem for state taxpayers by not only sucking money from the pockets of residents, and directing that money out of state, but getting the taxpayers to subsidize that sucking.”

“WOW VILE BABY...how the BUNDT marches going (LOL)?

Well for your INFORMATION VILEBOY!!!!...here are the hard numbers from, not the FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELY Good land of liberal wussieness...but the Bureau of Labor Statistics (US Dept of Labor)



Now libbies...remember these are hard facts so don't choke on REALITY

[b][i]According to Current Population Survey estimates for 2004, some 73.9 million American workers were paid at hourly rates, representing 59.8 percent of all wage and salary workers.1 Of those paid by the hour, 520,000 were reported as earning exactly $5.15, the prevailing Federal minimum wage, and another 1.5 million were reported earning wages below the minimum.

Do the numbers there brain dead fiddle.

Minimum wage workers tend to be young. About half of all hourly-paid workers earning $5.15 or less were under age 25, and about one-fourth were age 16-19. Among teenagers, about 9 percent earned $5.15 or less. About 2 percent of workers age 25 and over earned the minimum wage or less. Among those age 65 and over, the proportion was 4 percent. (See table 1 and table 7.)


About 4 percent of women paid hourly rates reported wages at or below the prevailing Federal minimum, compared with about 2 percent of men. (See table 1.)


Nearly 3 percent of white hourly-paid workers earned $5.15 or less, compared with about 2 percent for both blacks and Hispanics or Latinos. The figure for Asians was about 1 percent. Among whites and Hispanics or Latinos, women were about twice as likely as men to earn the Federal minimum wage or less. (See table 1.)


Never-married workers, who tend to be young, were more likely to earn the minimum wage or less than persons who are married. (See table 8.)


Among hourly-paid workers age 16 and over, about 2 percent of those who had a high school diploma but had not gone on to college earned the minimum or less, compared with about 1 percent for those who had obtained a college degree. (See table 6.)


Part-time workers (persons who usually work less than 35 hours per week) were much more likely than their full-time counterparts to be paid $5.15 or less (about 7 percent versus 1 percent). (See table 1 and table 9.)


By occupational group, the proportion of hourly-paid workers whose earnings were reported at or below $5.15 ranged from less than 1 percent for persons employed in management, professional, and related occupations, to about 9 percent for those in service occupations. About three in four workers earning $5.15 or less in 2004 were employed in service occupations, mostly in food service jobs. (See table 4.)


Among industry groups, the proportion of workers with reported hourly wages at or below $5.15 was highest in leisure and hospitality (about 15 percent). About three-fifths of all workers paid at or below the Federal minimum wage were employed in this industry, primarily in food services and drinking places. For many of these workers, tips supplement the hourly wages received. (See table 5.)


Among the four broad geographic regions, the West had the lowest proportion of hourly-paid workers with earnings at or below $5.15, at under 2 percent. This compared with about 3 percent for the other regions. In 2004, 24 states and the District of Columbia had a proportion of hourly-paid workers earning at or below the Federal minimum wage that exceeded the national average (2.7 percent); 22 states had a lower proportion. It should be noted that some states have minimum wage laws establishing minimum wage standards that exceed the Federal level of $5.15 per hour. (See table 2 and table 3.)


The proportion of hourly-paid workers earning the prevailing Federal minimum wage or less has trended downward since 1979, when data first began to be collected on a regular basis. (See table 10.)[/i][/b]

http://stats.bls.gov/cps/minwage2004.htm



NOW would I give them a raise...YES if it was MY MONEY..the sad thing is the libbies are raising the Minimum to make it more palatable to stay on the bottom. Imagine if we put this in other areas of life.

The "if you want to refuse to be productive, and refuse to do the HARD work to improve your lot in life we will STEAL THE MONEY to help you." is a typical Liberal Socialist idea. And like the good Libbies of the LEFT wing...ever notice how they find a way to give JUST ENOUGH SCRAPS from the table of the "mass'ah" to the dregs that the dregs feel sated.

Remember Vile baby...if you fund it THEY WILL COME.
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“Your racism is showing.....”

“Racisim...because I want people to Do better? That is racists because rather then having people happy to stay at the bottom of life where they are "surviving" but (albeit) Controlled? That is Racist?


Nah,...you need to open one of them there books and read it.”

“Totally, when we're all Bill Gates a 'big mac' will cost $78.99. We've come a long way baby!”

“UM..sale what will the same Big Mac cost for say Bubba Smerd who quit school in 6th grade to puruse a life of failing to meet expectations? And if fair is fair ( you libbies are always talking about "FAIR" How will bubba continue to eat when it will take him a full day of robbing elderly people to get the money to buy a sammich.?

Will this be a "stolen from the successful to give to the unsuccessful" thing?”

“'You libbies' is all it takes to destroy everything you say (which is saying nothing), because your whole world is built on a negative platform.”

“ronald reagan (and XLax) knew of this woman who worked for minimum wage and was on welfare and food stamps and she drove a CADILLAC!”

“Actually the price of a Big Mac, Whopper or Jumbo Jack is still pretty cheap. Fast food is something directly affected by minimum wages. The effect is small but it is there.

The real inflation felt by Americans has been in energy and housing. Did minimum wage laws do that? Americans cannot afford to fill their gas tank and we are arguing over a few pennies in the lowest paid workers pockets.”

“just think.. if you make $5.85/hour you only have to work 10 hours to fill up your gas tank!”

“One could buy a sack of potatoes or rice for the cost of a fast food "sandwich".

Educate the poor, and everyone else, and they might just eat better food.”

“Marko I'm not saying that anyone should eat that crap served at the drive through.

What I'm saying is that the minimum wage in not inflationary. Much more of the cost of a Big Mac comes from energy and corporate profits. The workers wages are just pennies per sandwich.”

“just think.. if you make $5.85/hour you only have to work 10 hours to fill up your gas tank!”
hikerboy
8:10:11 AM
7/25/07

That is pretty much what the high schoolers earning minimum wage do with their money.”

“yet the libbies will not allow us to drill in ANWR or off the coast in the gulf (where by the way the CUBANS have just given Venezuela the rights to drill).

Rather we are switching to useing food stuffs thus raising the price of food...and fuel. (LOL) gotta love libbie logic”

“"Rather we are switching to useing food stuffs thus raising the price of food..."

NO, there is plenty of arable land to grow fuel crops.
Try to keep up and stop throwing lies.

Time to invade the Evil Empire Of Cuba?”

“http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11811-biofuel-production-may-raise-price-of-food--.html

Wow Marky you can't win for losing today....(LOL)”

“Doing it right would require initiative and hard work.
The results would be worth the effort........less dependence on petroleum and dis-engagement from hostile foreign countries.

More thirteen year-old "LOL's".......typical.”

“Shouldn't MarkO make the same as someone that worked hard getting an advanced education while he screwed around and didn't?
That's the whole point of socialists.”

“Do you read what you post XL?:

About half of all hourly-paid workers earning $5.15 or less were under age 25, and about one-fourth were age 16-19.

That sounds an aweful lot like most minimum wage earners are adults... doesn't it?

You just refuted your post above where you say: "It is primarily earned by kids beginning their careers (and living at home), retirees (just getting something to do) and much less than 10% are (in 1996 I think it was 5%) supporting a family."
- XL400236”

“Good vile....okay most of the Under 25 crowd I know are either living at home or in school...but then.. well my friends are trying to make something of themselves.

Oh and do you need help to determine HOW MANY half of 525,000 is? I mean we can set you up with a copy of Hooked on Mathematics. (LOL) It still goes to shoot holes in your theory that there are MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF WORKING FAMILIES SURVIVING ON minimum wage


you know we got a lot of basketball players making less than 20 points a game....maybe we should punish the guys making more than 20 points.
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