Apratheid Israel Annex Thread

“UH...huh....so I wonder how SH88 comes down on the whole issue of other minority power pushes?

You know when I read antisemitic glurges like yours I always have to remember this kid we had in highschool who truly was a Brat. He would find someone and start picking on them...nothing serious...until the person fought back..then the Brat would go cry to the teacher.

That worked until one day he picked on a kid who decked him. When junior woke up he was in the Principal's office facing ...(LOL) Detention for starting the fight. Apparently the Assistant Principal was a TAD more intelligent than your average teacher and had been keeping a running total of all the "people" who picked on this twerp.

SH88 I know BOTH sides of the story...Probably a S-load of a lot better than you and I will tell you the story from the Lebanese who have fled is that the Camel humper worshipers of the former childmolesting drunk I call Mohomoed tell me it is the leadership's intention to destroy Isreal.

If they want peace here is the deal. Isreal gives them the land back (strangely they did offer this) but the caveat is ..ONE ATTACK...a bomb, a bullet, a kidnapping whatever....Isreal and the US will eradicate ...that mean eliminate the nation who supported it.”

“Poor XL, he is just the Homer Simpson of TT. ie. a simple boorish lout who is incapable of reading to learn. I guess I'll have to show him some video. Now if I could only provide him with an unlimited supply of donuts and Diet Pepsi maybe his feeble mind wouldn't drift off. He's so occupied with planning a nukclur strike on Lebanon, Syria, or Iran. He's Bush's last defender and someone needs to help Bush run this war.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3439958,00.html”

“sol hiker - LOL! You can't be serious!

I'd encourage everyone to watch that video. She brushed off a punk kid, LOL!”

“Your love -hate fest is great -Who pays for it?#2”

“LOL...and the numbers of people on the left saying we are really making progress continues. SH88...antisemitisim went out of fad in 1945 when Berlin was leveled.”

“While I do not agree with Sol I don't think he should be attacked either. We all have our biases. I have mine. I support the notion of the nation of Israel and admit that bias freely. Of course I look at it in the biblical view. I do agree with Sol that Israel is messed up and should change. But I feel they should stand up and be the nation that G-d calls them to be. A light unto the nations. Not this secular den of thieves they have now.


Berei#&%!$ 12

1. And the Lord said to Abram, "Go forth from your land and from your birthplace and from your father's house, to the land that I will show you.
2. And I will make you into a great nation, and I will bless you, and I will aggrandize your name, and [you shall] be a blessing.
3. And I will bless those who bless you, and the one who curses you I will curse, and all the families of the earth shall be blessed in you."”

“Let me see now,is it israel that that encourages young men to blow themselves up,in shopping malls,bus stops and discos ?

Is it Israel that teaches their kids hate and has them handling rifles at age 5 ?

Is it Israel that drags bodies of Palestinians through the streets behind cars,dipping themselves in the blood,passing out candy and firing rifles into the air in celebration on such a joyous occascion of being able to butcher a Palestinian.

Is it Israel that actively promotes and recruits imppressionable youth to kill themselves in the name of G-d.

Israel has the right to that land it is and always has been their land.They are a oasis of democracy surrounded by tyrants,who have no idea of what democracy and human decency is about.

Ask a woman in Saudai Arabia about womens rights or for that matter a christian.

If Israel is that bad ,why do Israeli arabs fight to keep their Israeli ctizenship ?

They have tried to live in peace for almost 60 years,but the surrounding arab nations refuse to let them live in peace.

They have been perescuted for centuries,they finally have a homeland a place where they are accepted,they more than deserve it....They made a vow "never again" and they mean it.

It will always be their Land.....Shalom Israel !
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“Ask a woman in Saudai Arabia about womens rights or for that matter a christian.

You can't ask a Christian. That's not PC. Maybe a Hindu?”

“Solitary Hiker88 talking to the media:



"Israel is not a democracy. Fatah and Hamas are not terrorists."”

“ I don't think he should be attacked either. We all have our biases - Nigal

You're too tolerant of hate.”

“Nigal I like your attempt (as usual) to bring peace, but Sadly I have visited Dachau, and I have had close friends who wore a number on the inside of their arm from a time when "well lets just mind our own business" was the watchword.

SH88 is just spouting the Final Solution crap in a slightly hipper line and sorry SH but I have listened to men tell of watching (as 12 and 13 year old children) mothers try to protect their children as they were being led to gas chambers.”

“You and I are closer together on this issue than you think. The men who run Israel are nationalistic Talmudic Pharisees. You may not be a Christian but I but bet you have a Christian Bible. Go and read what Jesus said about the Pharisees.”

“No wonder they got they're asses kicked in Lebanon last summer. When you think being a soldier is beating up on old men, pregnant women, and children and then have to face men with AK-47s it ain't the same.

http://newsfromthewest.blogspot.com/2007/08/famous-quotes-from-history.html

And the sad thing is some of our soldiers are probably doing this in Iraq today.
Anyone remember Abu Garaib (sp?).

Payday someday is coming.
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“When was the last time the palestinians had to put alarms in their schools because of Israeli rocket attacks.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123442

I will agree that the IDF isn`t innocent,but when was the last time the IDF tortured and beat to death a Palestinian and dragged their bodies through the streets cheering and handing out candy ?”

“Gaza: Armed Palestinian Groups Commit Grave Crimes
Fighters Execute Captives, Attack Hospital, Put Journalists at Serious Risk

This press release has been corrected.

(New York, June 13, 2007) – During recent fighting in the Gaza Strip, armed Palestinian groups have committed serious violations of international humanitarian law, in some cases amounting to war crimes, Human Rights Watch said today.

In internal Palestinian fighting over the last three days, both Fatah and Hamas military forces have summarily executed captives, killed people not involved in hostilities, and engaged in gun battles with one another inside and near Palestinian hospitals. On Saturday, armed Palestinians from Islamic Jihad and the Fatah-affiliated Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade used a vehicle with a “TV” insignia to attack an Israeli military position on the border with Gaza.

“These attacks by both Hamas and Fatah constitute brutal assaults on the most fundamental humanitarian principles,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director for Human Rights Watch. “The murder of civilians not engaged in hostilities and the willful killing of captives are war crimes, pure and simple.”

On Sunday, Hamas military forces captured 28-year-old Muhammad Swairki, a cook for President Mahmoud Abbas’s presidential guard, and executed him by throwing him to his death, with his hands and legs tied, from a 15-story apartment building in Gaza City. Later that night, Fatah military forces shot and captured Muhammad al-Ra’fati, a Hamas supporter and mosque preacher, and threw him from a Gaza City high-rise apartment building. On Monday, Hamas military forces attacked the home in Beit Lahiya of Jamal Abu al-Jadiyan, a senior Fatah official, captured him, and executed him on the street with multiple gunshots. On Tuesday, there were reports of additional killings of individuals not involved in hostilities.

In addition, Fatah and Hamas forces engaged in battles in and around two Gaza Strip hospitals on Monday. After Hamas fighters killed Fatah intelligence officer Yasir Bakar, Fatah gunmen began firing mortars and rocket-propelled grenades at Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, drawing Hamas fire from inside the building, killing one Hamas and one Fatah fighter. At a hospital in Beit Hanun, three family members with ties to Fatah, `Id al-Masri and his sons, Farij and Ibrahim, were killed, and others wounded. Hospital officials reported that the three were being treated for injuries sustained earlier. One was reportedly shot at close range.

All parties engaged in armed conflict are subject to customary international humanitarian law, which forbids deliberate harming of civilians and those who are not engaged in armed hostilities at the time, Human Rights Watch said. International humanitarian law also provides special protection to medical personnel and hospitals. Military and civilian hospitals and medical units must be protected and respected in all circumstances.

In the June 9 incident, four armed Palestinians drove a white jeep bearing “TV” insignias to a fence on the Gaza-Israel border and fired at Israeli soldiers. The Israelis returned fire, killing one Palestinian. Spokesmen for Islamic Jihad and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, an offshoot of Fatah, claimed responsibility for the attack. An Islamic Jihad spokesperson denied that Palestinians had put press markings on the jeep used in the June 9 attack, and accused the Israeli military of doing so after the fact. However, photos taken by the Associated Press as the attack was under way show the letters “TV” written in red on the front of the jeep.

“Using a vehicle with press markings to carry out a military attack is a serious violation of the laws of war, and it also puts journalists at risk,” said Whitson.

Customary international humanitarian law provides that journalists not taking direct part in hostilities in armed conflict zones “shall be considered as civilians.” The deliberate abuse of this protected status in order to breach the confidence of an adversary in an attempt to kill, injure or capture them, would amount to an act of perfidy, a serious violation of international humanitarian law.

The Palestinian Journalists Union on Sunday criticized the use by armed factions of press insignia in a statement: “The use of vehicles that carry ‘Press,’ ‘TV’ or other signs ... exposes journalists’ lives to danger, gives the Israeli occupation a pretext to target and kill journalists and restricts their ability to perform their professional and national duties. … We demand all parties stop using these methods.”

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2007/06/13/isrlpa16156.htm”

“Your love -hate fest is great -Who pays for it?#3”

““You and I are closer together on this issue than you think. The men who run Israel are nationalistic Talmudic Pharisees. You may not be a Christian but I but bet you have a Christian Bible. Go and read what Jesus said about the Pharisees.”

Yeah, I still have one but it's contradictions and inconsistencies lead me to not trust it too much historically. The leaders of the movements at that time were not great. But the fact is that the only Jews who stay within Judaism are those who identify with the religious tenants of Phariseeism. Nearly all others fall away within a couple generations and lose their Jewish identity.

If Israel had a religious government there would be peace. Yes, there would be a short violent period just before the peace but there would be peace none the less.”

“the Pharisees


They died out,within 70 years of the death of Jesus Christ,shortly after the Romans took Jerusalem and the fall of Masada.”

“Good cover there Paddles.

SH I wonder how much trouble there would be in Lebanon if Isreal had Not be RESTRAINED by the US?

One great lesson I learned was the "if Mexico Attacked us" studies in the 1980's.

Imagine we wake up to find Brownsville and El Paso have been shelled by Mexican "militias". You need to understand that the Isrealis suffer percentage wise the same losses as we did on 9/11 quite frequently. Would we sit idly by as our southern neighbors hit Dallas, Kansas City etc?

SH until you have stood in Isreal and had the leaders tell you..."The Enemy? They are right there (in visual range)" you will be safe in your anti Semitic views. The truth is the Aggressive Islamo Fascist elements have as PART of their Constitutions...the TOTAL DESTRUCTION of Isreal.

If you are either unable or unwilling to put it into a perspective for your life (like a neighbor who seeks your destruction and the COPS won't do Crap to intervene) well such discussions are useless.”

““Good cover there Paddles.

XL: Israel will survive,they`ll lose many,but they will survive.They are a nation destined to survive.


5 Hear the word of the LORD,
you who tremble at his word:
"Your brothers who hate you,
and exclude you because of my name, have said,
'Let the LORD be glorified,
that we may see your joy!'
Yet they will be put to shame.

6 Hear that uproar from the city,
hear that noise from the temple!
It is the sound of the LORD
repaying his enemies all they deserve.

7 "Before she goes into labor,
she gives birth;
before the pains come upon her,
she delivers a son.

8 Who has ever heard of such a thing?
Who has ever seen such things?
Can a country be born in a day
or a nation be brought forth in a moment?
Yet no sooner is Zion in labor
than she gives birth to her children.

9 Do I bring to the moment of birth
and not give delivery?" says the LORD.
"Do I close up the womb
when I bring to delivery?" says your God.

10 "Rejoice with Jerusalem and be glad for her,
all you who love her;
rejoice greatly with her,
all you who mourn over her.

11 For you will nurse and be satisfied
at her comforting breasts;
you will drink deeply
and delight in her overflowing abundance."

12 For this is what the LORD says:
"I will extend peace to her like a river,
and the wealth of nations like a flooding stream;
you will nurse and be carried on her arm
and dandled on her knees.

13 As a mother comforts her child,
so will I comfort you;
and you will be comforted over Jerusalem."

The time is coming when once again she will be a light to the nations !”

“This is the closest contest ever , you all tie for the 'Darwin award ' this time.”

“Okay I have one poster (Nigal) saying

But the fact is that the only Jews who stay within Judaism are those who identify with the religious tenants of Phariseeism. Nearly all others fall away within a couple generations and lose their Jewish identity.

And I have another poster (paddles) saying

the Pharisees
They died out,within 70 years of the death of Jesus Christ,shortly after the Romans took Jerusalem and the fall of Masada.

So what's it gonna be? Are they alive or are they extinct? Y'all be careful now. Get your facts straight before you make yourselves look bad.

And paddles your last line is a joke right?

The time is coming when once again she will be a light to the nations!

So when will the leopard change its stops?
When will light come out of darkness?”

“The Pharisees:

Solitary hiker,your partialy right much of what the pharisees believed and taught has become part of Orthodox Judaism today.

http://atheism.about.com/od/biblepeoplenewtestament/p/Pharisees.htm
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“SH...you have absolutely NO ZIP ZERO NADA understanding of history.....you need to study about the Warsaw ghetto before you go running your antisemitic little mouth.

Stop reading the crap from the white knights and open a history book.”

“And paddles your last line is a joke right?

The time is coming when once again she will be a light to the nations!


No joke there SH,if G-d said it I`m gonna believe it.”

“They died out,within 70 years of the death of Jesus Christ,shortly after the Romans took Jerusalem and the fall of Masada.

Just to clarify; when I said...But the fact is that the only Jews who stay within Judaism are those who identify with the religious tenants of Phariseeism....I was speaking of the Pharisaic theology and that of following the whole Torah (oral and written) unlike the Sadducees who rejected the oral torah.”

“So when will the leopard change its stops?
When will light come out of darkness?

Over the course of Israel's history they have been up and down, right and wrong. They are one of the oldest and smallest groups in human history always bouncing along near the bottom population wise but yet they have never gone away as promised. Israel will change it's spots and come out of the darkness when they collectively repent and turn towards G-d. One of the most stirring passages in the Jewish scriptures is the dedication speech Solomon gave at the completion of the first temple when he told the nation of Israel they would one day be without a temple and their only hope would be to return to G-d.”

“A leopard cannot change his spots and light can never come from darkness. And so it is with the present day country of Israel.

If a man acts like a Pharisee and talks like a Pharisee then he must be a Pharisee. If modern Orthodox Judaism derives itself from Pharaism (Phariseeism) then they are Pharisees in every sense of the word.

The whole 20th chapter of Matthew (the most Jewish of the four Gospels) is devoted to the Pharisees. Jesus made it very clear what they were and why he felt the way he did about them.

I'm always amazed when I hear so called Christians like this right wing kook "Rev" Hagee from Texas talk about present day Israelis and how they are G_d's Chosen People. The Jews lost their Chosen People status when the were taken into captivity by the Assyrians 600 years before Christ. They broke a covenant with their G_d. If Rev Hagee remembers his New Testament, Christ came to make the second and final covenant with all of humanity. Not just a chosen few but all of humanity.

All I know is that if your G_d or the Christian God is telling the truth then he will cleanse the country of Israel in order to make ready for the true Israel. And if your G_d and the Christian God are telling the truth they will have every reason to do it.
The current country of Israel has lost its moral compass. It exists because of the evil that Zionists (nationalistic Talmudic Pharisees) did in 1948 and continue to do to this very day. Truly they are a brood of vipers.

Payday someday is coming.
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“The whole 20th chapter of Matthew

should read

The whole 23rd chapter of Matthew ...
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“A leopard cannot change his spots and light can never come from darkness. And so it is with the present day country of Israel.

Sure it can. The Jewish scriptures show time and again how Israel went astray yet Hashem never forgot His covenant with them and He always called them back and accepted them.

If a man acts like a Pharisee and talks like a Pharisee then he must be a Pharisee. If modern Orthodox Judaism derives itself from Pharaism (Phariseeism) then they are Pharisees in every sense of the word.

This is clearly a clouded view of exactly what you believe a Pharisee to be. If all you have ever known of the movement is from the christian bible of course you will believe them to be evil. Just as every other religion had it's string of bad leaders so too have the Jews.

The whole 20th chapter of Matthew (the most Jewish of the four Gospels) is devoted to the Pharisees. Jesus made it very clear what they were and why he felt the way he did about them.

This of course is assuming that everything Jesus said was ultimate truth. To use this would be akin to trying to use David Coresh's rantings against modern christianity. In short when dealing with non christians the christian bible is not a worthy currency.

I'm always amazed when I hear so called Christians like this right wing kook "Rev" Hagee from Texas talk about present day Israelis and how they are G_d's Chosen People.

Where exactly in the Jewish scriptures does it say Israel would cease to be G-d's chosen people?

The Jews lost their Chosen People status when the were taken into captivity by the Assyrians 600 years before Christ. They broke a covenant with their G_d.

They broke their end of the deal many times throughout their history. We have to remember though that G-d is unable to break a covenant even if the Jews break their end of the deal. The Jews breaking a covenant doesn't mean the covenant is null and void. NOWHERE can you find an example of this happening.

If Rev Hagee remembers his New Testament, Christ came to make the second and final covenant with all of humanity. Not just a chosen few but all of humanity.

If you read closely Chapter 31 of Jerhimia you will see exactly who this "new covenant" is with. Verse 8 clearly says,

"Behold, days are coming, says the Lord, and I will form a covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, a new covenant."

This signifies a covenant with a reunified Israel. The in gathering. At the time of Jesus the Jews were still scattered to the wind so Jesus couldn't possibly have ushered in a new covenant. And if you read further the only difference between the new and old covenant is where the Torah would be; not in the mouth but in the heart. And it does nothing to change the conditions of the old one nor does it change the law. We see in the prophecies of the messianic age that the law is firmly in place along with the temple and the temple sacrifices.”

“Herr SH...for your edification

http://www.ushmm.org/outreach/wgupris.htm

You will find (as I learned in school) that the Warsaw Ghetto was where the NAZIS had placed the Jews prior to deportation. They then systematically began deporting them for mass extermination (which you probably don't believe happened) the Ghetto was famous for an uprising to PROTECT the removal.

As yet I HAVE NOT seen the Isrealis quarter the Alleged Palestinians, identify them for systematic extermination, nor have I seen any semblance of civilized activity in Lebanon....For God's Sake when the Sons of MO didn't like their election the started killing each other!!!!!

Sorry Your Logic is flawed by your obvious intense hatered of Hebrews.”

“SH: G-d has not forgotten his people,if you remember when Jesus talked to his diciples he said "to the Jews first".

The nation of Israel is to go through 490 years of tribulation for their "stiff necked ways " (book of Daniel). Once that time period is finished,then as G-d promised them they shall be restored.

Zechariah 8:19-21 states it quite eloquently.

19Thus says the Lord of hosts: The fast of the fourth month and the fast of the fifth, the fast of the seventh and the fast of the tenth, shall be to the house of Judah times of joy and gladness and cheerful, appointed seasons; therefore [in order that this may happen to you, as the condition of fulfilling the promise] love truth and peace.

20Thus says the Lord of hosts: It shall yet come to pass that there shall come [to Jerusalem] peoples and the inhabitants of many and great cities,

21And the inhabitants of one city shall go to them of another, saying, Let us go speedily to pray and entreat the favor of the Lord and to seek, inquire of, and require [to meet our own most essential need] the Lord of hosts. I will go also.

22Yes, many people and strong nations shall come to Jerusalem to seek, inquire of, and require [to fill their own urgent need] the Lord of hosts and to pray to the Lord for His favor.

23Thus says the Lord of hosts: In those days ten men out of all languages of the nations shall take hold of the robe of him who is a Jew, saying, Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you

G-d still loves Israel.

The time will come when Islam will fall,and the Arab nations will realize they were decieved,and they will exist in peace with their Jewish brethern and the bitterness of centuries will be forgotten.”

“yea, thatll happen”

“LOL...paddles I wonder what the Roman citizens thought when they were told by the Christians that eventually their Nation would fall?”

“Paddles is right Sol and it deserves to be underscored that verse 23 says the nations will come to the Jews, not the other way around.”

“Jews?...not JUICE...wow...imagine my embarrasment...I thought OJ Simpson would be the savior.....”

“Basically, they're all crazy as #&%!$house rats.  Pick your poison.  When they start babbling about the Great Blueberry Pie In The Sky.... you can let me out at the next intersection.

Oh.... You read it in an old book?  Well, pardon me.


I'll go with Eris --- or the Flying Spaghetti Monster.”

“Okay...well if you WANT to bring the GREAT FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER (Praised be his name) into this I think we can all agree that well there is no debate.... just none

I think we need to encircle the whole area and at gun point enforce 24 hour COMPULSORY SQUARE DANCING on the entire area...keep it up for a few days...then warn them. "you want to be silly...we invented silly."”

“.... you can let me out at the next intersection.

I don't remember anyone even offering you a ride.”

“You Have Your Timeline Mixed Up

Your Jerhimia C31V08 is the same as
the NIV Jeremiah C31V31

31 Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, 32 not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the LORD. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts.

Jeremiah, according to the Bible, was written before the Assyrians took the Israelites into captivity. It says so right at the start of Jeremiah. Starting at C01V01

1 The words of Jeremiah, the son of Hilkiah, one of the priests who were in) Anathoth in the land of Benjamin, 2to whom the word of the LORD came in the days of(Josiah the son of Amon, king of Judah, in the thirteenth year of his reign. 3 It came also in the days of Jehoiakim the son of Josiah, king of Judah, and until the end of the eleventh year of Zedekiah, the son of Josiah, king of Judah, until the captivity of Jerusalem in the fifth month.

The covenent Jeremiah is referring to IMO is the covenant God made when he sent the Messiah. Now I understand Jews and people who want to be Jewish don't think that Jesus was the Messiah. As I understand it they/you? think there is another Messiah coming, a worldly Messiah that will save Israel. But here are several points to consider.

From paddles post

The nation of Israel is to go through 490 years of tribulation for their "stiff necked ways " (book of Daniel). Once that time period is finished,then as G-d promised them they shall be restored.

So if they Israelites were taken into captivity roughly 600 years before the birth of Christ and they were well established back in Jerusalem at the time of Jesus' birth maybe they already had their 490 years of tribulation?

And if that tribulation hasn't taken place yet does that not present a dilemma? If anyone with an objective mind looks at what is going on in occupied Palestine right now he/she will know that the pseudo-Pharisees that control Israel don't really have any great love of G_d or Yahweh or Hashem or whatever else you want to call him this year. So is this "god" really just gathering in these stiff-necked, hate-filled false Israelites together so he can finally purge the world of their apostasy?

In the latter verses of Matthew C23V30+ Jesus says:

"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous, 30 saying, 'If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.' 31 Thus you witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers. 33 You serpents,you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell? 34 Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will flog in your synagogues and persecute from town to town, 35 so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of innocent Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. 36 Truly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
Lament over Jerusalem
37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not! 38 See, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again, until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.'

It seems to me Jesus is saying they had a chance to accept the second convenant but they rejected it. Hence they will not see God [Jesus] until they recognize him as the true Messiah.

If I was one of the 2.3 billion Christians in the world that would be the way I would interpret those verses.
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“Leave it to you to make a fool out of yourself yet again.

If the Gaza Strip isn't the modern day equivalent of the Warsaw Ghetto then the world is flat. What, pray tell us, is the moral difference between murdering people in one concentration camp or shipping them from one camp to a second camp to kill them? The Warsaw Ghetto was for all practical purposes, a concentration camp! The Gaza Strip is a concentration camp!”

“A Description of the Warsaw Ghetto

http://mwcnews.net/content/view/16242/42/

A Description of the Gaza Strip

http://counterpunch.com/karkar08152007.html”

“http://www.pchrgaza.org/files/W_report/English/2007/23-08-2007.htm

Gosh I don't see that any Israelis were murdered by "terrorists' this week. Yet the IOF just keeps murdering Palestinians. Just because they can and the world lets them get away with it.

Payday someday is coming.”

“It's no wonder you're a "solitary hiker". Who wants to hike with an anti-Semite bigot?”

“My 22 year old niece that was born and raised in north western Israel has stayed at my house for 3 days. She is in a divorce and will move back to Israel. She says the same things as SH. She is an atheist as is her whole family there. Anti-Semite is not a term used frequently in Israel, they understand the stigma of it's overuse.”

“My time line isn't messed up. I never said Jeremiah was written after they went into captivity. That's what makes this verse so important...

31 Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,

Do you remember when I said this signifies a reunified Israel and Judah? As in this new covenant would not take place until all of the tribes of Israel are all back together. As in, when the messiah does come.

Now I understand Jews and people who want to be Jewish don't think that Jesus was the Messiah. As I understand it they/you? think there is another Messiah coming, a worldly Messiah that will save Israel.

Weather or not he was the messiah isn't even a consideration. What I asked of you was to show me where in the scriptures (not the new testament) where it says Israel would not be G-d's people or they would be forsaken. And as I stated before we can look right in the prophecies which describe the messianic era (check Ezekiel 37-48) and we see that not only are the Jews still in their place as G-d's people but all of the Jewish law is there as well.

If anyone with an objective mind looks at what is going on in occupied Palestine right now he/she will know that the pseudo-Pharisees that control Israel don't really have any great love of G_d or Yahweh or Hashem or whatever else you want to call him this year.

Most of the leadership isn't even religious much less a 'pseudo-Pharisee'. This is the problem as I have stated before.

It seems to me Jesus is saying they had a chance to accept the second convenant but they rejected it. Hence they will not see God [Jesus] until they recognize him as the true Messiah.

LOL! Are you trying to save me Sol. :) Each man stands on his own when it comes to salvation. The Torah says that if a father bites a sour grape his son's teeth will not be set on edge. OK, here's the $64K question Sol and I won't allow you to skip over it.

Where in the Jewish scriptures does it say that we are required to worship, pray to or even follow the messiah to gain salvation? Answer this simple question and we can continue forward.”

“Nigal here`s a web site for you,that shows Tanakh scriptures that point to Jesus(Yeshua)as the Messiah.

I find this stuff fascinating,just the way it all ties in.

http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/Messiah1.html

This is another site:

http://jewsforjesus.org/topics/answers/prophecy”