Anyone Feel A Draft?

“A contractor who I do business with tells me they are building sixteen large barracks at the Ft. Jackson Army Base in Columbia, SC. That's a basic training facility some of you may have experience with. They are also greatly expanding the military hospital there. The penalties for not completing the tasks by later this year are $50,000 a day. Looks like the Army is gearing up for something. I wonder what?

http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chron.com%2Fdisp%2Fstory.mpl%2Fap%2Fpolitics%2F5045280.html”

“I like the idea, though I maybe wayyyy in the minority. Get the kids of some fat cats in the army and see what happens in the streets.”

“WWIII”

“cool! we're invading georgia!
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“Liberal conspiracy theory number 7,985,321. We ran out of names. We just number them now.”

“So Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute, Bush's war czar, is a liberal conspiracist?

Wow bacpac, you're really making sense.”

“or conservative cover-up 10,824,982. pick your poison
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“Clarification, please --

Is Doug Lute a Wore Czar or a Wore Tsar?”

“A draft for service within the boundries of this country, YES, outside ,NO.”

“See, it's started.”

“Ohhhhh! I love Gen. Tsar's Chicken! I order it every time we go to to Dragon City.”

“Well there could be a draft now that congress is controlled by the democrats. You remember them don't you? You know, the ones who tried to bring the draft back a few years back.”

“One can only hope.”

“Wow bacpac, you're really making sense.”
VioLiN
6:51:42 AM
8/11/07

I know that an out of context quote and the terms of an unrelated contract spells draft for you, but it is not going to happen.”

“I agree, it's not...but it should.”

“When my son has a senator for a father, darlin.”

“I'm helping build a new school in Georgia! OMG! It's the RAPTURE!!!”

“Hey! What about the air cargo facility I helped build at Warner Robbins AFB in '80? And the C-130 fuel hangar at Dobbins AFB in '82? And the large administrative building at Ft. McPherson in '83?

Yepper - something's a'brew!

Quick - lets get our arses to Canada!”

“More concise insightful commentary like the above and I'm going to have to take back a lot of things I've said about you.

Come on Nigal?
Are you gonna play StoveStomper's game until you look even more stupid than he does? The draft won't be a one party decision by a long shot because:
1) The military will basically admit the Army is broken ie. rotations back every 18 months or so is taking a real toll on morale and retention.
2) The governors are already in semi-revolt about where their state National Guards are when they need them for natural disasters. Wait till the natives get restless because a week's wages won't cover a day's expenses.

For the rest of you.
Have you never heard the old saying;

Rich man's war, poor man's fight?

You're dreaming if you think this draft will be for everybody. The fat cats' children never fight. They get exemptions because they work in critical war industries or they're 4F. Or they just send their children to foreign countries (all expenses paid) till the war is over. Many fat cats in the USA have dual citizenships in other countries and so do their children. The courts won't go looking for them and the countries they will hide in won't extradite them. After the war any fines and jail time they might receive can be whittled down if you have the right lawyers, right judges, right procecutors, and plenty of money for appeals. If you watched the OJ Simpson trial you know that in US criminal justice system anyone can get all the justice money can buy.
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“Man , that truth brings back even more old songs.Can't even go to Canada,it's been taken over by Canadians.”

“Sorry Sol, the All Knowing Oracle shtick is just too boring to even follow anymore.”

“LOL..libbies...been whining this for years....
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Well in 2005 a study showed

The household income of recruits generally matches the income distribution of the American population. There are slightly higher proportions of recruits from the middle class and slightly lower proportions from low-income brackets. However, the proportion of high-income recruits rose to a disproportionately high level after the war on ter­rorism began, as did the proportion of highly edu­cated enlistees. All of the demographic evidence that we analyzed contradicts the pro-draft case.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/cda05-08.cfm

Okay this is the end of this whiney little RANGLE related thread....(LOL)”

“Think you stopped it, eh?”

“Then take your ass outta here Nigal. Nobody said you had to stay and make stupid comments.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0%2C%2C2147052%2C00.html”

“I'm just sayin' ya might get a bit more interaction with others if you didn't make it sound like you're disseminating the gospel from the mountaintop.”

“"I know that an out of context quote and the terms of an unrelated contract spells draft for you, but it is not going to happen."
- bacpac
6:16:12 AM



You can read the transcript of the interview with Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12688693 and listen to the interview by clicking on the "listen" button.

What context am I missing?
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“Sarge, More concise insightful commentary like the above and I'm going to have to take back a lot of things I've said about you. - solitary hiker



I don't care.”

“LOL...anyone notice the FIRST time vile baby has quoted anyone from the administration it is this one quote?


Even as vocal a war critic as Deputy Senate Majority Leader Dick Durbin, D-Ill., has now acknowledged as much, telling CNN that the U.S. military is “making real progress.”

http://www.examiner.com/a-872285~The_surge_is_working__What_now_.html

And Vile baby....this has got to be a shock to you.

The most hilarious thing about libbies is that they panic at the imaginary (i.e. build new barracks ITS A DRAFT, global warming etc) moonbat ideas...but on the REAL STUFF the REAL THREATS they just phoo phoo them.”

“I'm not panicking about the draft, but favor it. I want YOU drafted.”

“Thats nice Numble....I guess you do get cranky in old age (LOL)....I am just hazarding a guess...but the Depends aren't working as well as expected are they?”

“No need to get so paranoid. There has been a base closure initiative in place for several years. My guess is that these closures require other bases to beef up certain amenities, like barracks. Same thing is happening at an Army base nearby here.”

“Plus, the bases having makeshift buildings going back to the 1950s and earlier might have something to do with it.”

“From Sarge's link:
The Pentagon sharply rejected Monday a key general's assertion that a return to the military draft has always been "an option on the table" and should be considered.
"I can tell you emphatically that there is absolutely no consideration being given to reinstituting the draft," said Bryan Whitman, a Pentagon spokesman. "The all-volunteer force has surpassed all expectations of its founders." ......


Kinda makes solitary hiker and VioLiN look stupid, doesn't it?”

“Then take your ass outta here Nigal. Nobody said you had to stay and make stupid comments. - SH88

LOL - as everyone can see, anger and hate go hand-in-hand. SH88 revealed that he's a jew-hating 88, so I guess now he feels free to lash out at jews (Nigal).

Pathetic.”

“That's why I pointed out the fools, Mutt.
Both have felt free to call me stupid. LOL”

“There may or may not be a draft. That's why my thread title is the question "Anyone Feel A Draft?" Jump to your own conclusions. If you don't think there will be a draft counter with opposing viewpoints and site links. That's just what Sarge did. He didn't just go off on a "it's a libby conspiracy" tangent. He posted a link to a opposing viewpoint. [Although it's still hard to believe that a blind hog found an acorn twice on the same thread!]

Now on the other hand Nigal and Mutt are up to their same old character assassination tactics. Abe Foxman would be proud! But it doesn't matter. I've been fighting this battle since shortly after June 8th, 1967. I've heard it all. Truly a case of the little boy crying "wolf" way to many times.”

“Nigal and Mutt - You two could learn a lot from me, ya hippies.”

“I'm not engaging in "character assassination", SH88. You did that to yourself quite handily, and it's a matter of record here on TT.

When you've been outed as the same thing over and over for 40 years, that's a pretty good indication of what you are.”

“Sarge, like what? I'm already good at pi$$ing people off when I feel like it.”

“You're doing a great job my little sayan buddy. I like my threads up at the top of the list.”

“"Now on the other hand Nigal and Mutt are up to their same old character assassination tactics."

Oh come now SH, you are the #1 name caller on your threads. I'm just pointing out some ways you may get more constructive exchanges with others and not look so bad in the process. You have a habit of trying to start people off on uneven ground by limiting any opposing viewpoint to but a few categories (of which all are aimed to stroke your own ego). Generally anyone who disagrees with you is just stupid, don't want to be enlightened and stay asleep or just plain wrong. So either they agree with you or they don't in which case you are smarter, better informed and just plain right.

Phuck it's gotta be great being you!”

“Feels good being me, the omnipotent TT Feugo Thread Maker and El Deciderso Supremo. With this massive TT audience and my diamond sharp intellect I will conquer thebackpacker.com and then the internet world!

Nigal I can play this game all day long. Done it in a thousand chat rooms for years.

Fact is I can't help it if the same few TT detractors (you included) have faulty logic concerning American foreign policy in the Middle East. I can't help if most of you have little or no understanding of Middle Eastern history. I can't help it if you do not understand the nature of Israeli duplicity in their dealings with the US and the rightful owners of Palestine. I can't help it if you in your paradigm don't want to know the truth. And the truth is I'm not particularly interested in helping change the minds of the detractors on these threads. I'm just looking for one or two lurkers who will go to the links I post and read objectively. I can banter back and forth with you and Mutt and anyone else all day long just to keep this thread at the top. And I do thank you each day for the "bumps" you give this thread. Keep on posting.
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“That second paragraph really hits the nail on the head.

Thanks for the links SH - keep up the good work.”

“Done it in a thousand chat rooms for years.

... and there is still NO draft.”

“Buddha agrees with you. That pretty much seals the deal for me. LOL!”

“Less than 1% shouldering the burden as soldiers, seems fair.”

“XL - I really don't care if you're drafted or not. This time I was just kidding; I get sick and tired of typing all that "LOL" stuff is all.”

“LOL!”

“LOL”