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What? White?
Nigal
5:45:54 PM
8/30/07

I'll bet some of these guys could use a new copy of The Turner Diaries.

The old copies must be dog-eared by now.
MarkO
7:11:19 PM
8/30/07

UM McVeigh was more of a SH88 type....(LOL)...SH it is so good that your colors are showing....I personally love the "if the WIFE of the President did it...then the President is absolved of responsibility" tact you are taking....

I am guessing the other Liberal Hero ..FDR can be absolved of the false imprisonment of THOUSANDS of Japanese Americans by saying it was his wife's desire...(LOL)

See this is the cute part..Responsibility....Bush seems to be accepting it, Clinton NEVER had it. Amazing the most powerful man in the world couldn't control his own office.
XL400236
4:54:52 AM
8/31/07

Nigal
Yeah right! How can a guy be a lesbian in the first place?

Son, I'm a male lesbian and proud to confess it!

Sarge,
Hillary Clinton wanted the seige at Waco to come to an end period. She didn't care what happened as long as Koresh wasn't the number one story on the news each night. Jano Reno thought progress was being made in negociations. The FBI flooded the compound with CS gas (against international war in warfare) which is flamable. Fires broke out when CS gas came in contact with lit candles. Koresh et.al. didn't set any fires. That was all smoke and mirrors by the FBI to cover their a$$es.
solitary hiker
5:34:34 AM
8/31/07

I think that's a contradiction sh.

You first said that Hillary made Reno do it, but now you're saying Reno had nothing to do with it - it was cs from the FBI + candles.
last edited: 8/31/07 5:38:59 AM
Sarge
5:38:24 AM
8/31/07

Must I continually represent historical authenticity around here? It was the Church Lady that told Janet Reno to burn out Koresh. Hillary told Janet to knee Rudy Guiliani in the nuts on SNL. Okay?
Nimblefoot
5:44:40 AM
8/31/07

CS gas is not flammable or against international war in warfare, what ever that means.

This thread is aptly named for some of the posts it contains.
bacpac
5:45:50 AM
8/31/07

CS gas is not flammable or against international war in warfare, what ever that means.

The military uses it on it's own troops during training. I kinda liked it actually.
Sarge
5:49:47 AM
8/31/07

UM...well as a fellow Male Lesbian...I have to say SH has some incredibly accurate comments about he WACO thing. Yes Bill was most likely a Party Boy figurehead which should make any potential libby Hillary Supporter EXTREMELY Nervous.

If this woman is so "power hungry" (and I truly think SHE is the brains in the outfit) and so many can see it...why doesn't the media report it?

I truly believe that if she could find a way to get Bill capped (hell and her daughter too) to get her the sympathy vote into the White House she would.

But Regardless..SH you still have to admit the Senior Officer is STILL responsible for everything his people do and Fail to do. As such if I make a mistake on an investigation or prosecution and my depratment gets nailed. My bosses ass his hanging out just as much as mine.

Finally I gotta wonder...if the Koresh thing had truly taken the HealthCarePOWER Grab off the front page. WHY would she oppose that given all the other secrecy she surrounded herself with one would think she wanted that.
XL400236
5:51:22 AM
8/31/07

The he-men from the BATF bungled the arrest and then the FBI pressurised a cornered rat when they became impatient with the pace of the hostage negotiations (as is often the case with so-called "men of action").... but the rat set the fires.

It's fully documented by survivors that Vernon Howell had the place all set to torch.  Not only that, there are the audio tapes from the bugged milk cartons of him talking about setting the fires As He Did It. Then the coward shot himself before he burned.  The current conspiracy theories are a combination of fringe religion / gun wacko pipe dreams.

Heard any good rumors about McVeigh lately?
Tilt
6:08:17 AM
8/31/07

Tilty, you never had the fun of working with survivors of "THAT time at the ATF" most of the agents in charge were Clinton appointees with the regular agents (who knew what they were doing) out of the loop.

The funniest part was that Koresh RAN 5 MILES a day...OUTSIDE the Compound. Here is the kicker...why not pull up to him as he is running down the road, grab him and put him in the car? Jeeze the Mafia does it all the time.

As for El Reno declaring she was ordered to do it...um there is that ITTY BITTY example of where "We were only following orders" is not a defense.
XL400236
6:15:07 AM
8/31/07

Perhaps Secret Service should keep an eye on you Also when Hillary tours the Southeast.
Tilt
6:29:40 AM
8/31/07

UM...why? LOL..then I remember the last LIBBIE pres...when the lady yelled YOU SUCK he had her held incommunicado for hours (yeah even though a writ was filed to release her...) I guess LIbbies have a little more RIGHTS than the rest of us?

LOL..Tilty shows how ACCURATE the book Animal Farm was.
XL400236
6:35:04 AM
8/31/07

"Responsibility....Bush seems to be accepting it,....."
XLax

Somebody please tell this nut to get in out of the rain.
MarkO
9:50:45 AM
8/31/07

Marky Mark...read the papers

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush said Tuesday he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina.

The man realizes that it was most likely the TOTAL Freaking incompetence of the LA and NO governments that placed people in Harms Way, but he is still big enough to say the buck stops with him.

Contrast to

Slick:'What buck...hell I never saw a buck."
XL400236
11:43:50 AM
8/31/07

You gona climb in the casket with the little barbooth cowboy when he's dead?
uncliff
11:51:46 AM
8/31/07

Ride 'em plowboy!
Tilt
12:08:05 PM
8/31/07

He's hoping to get the dying quiver.
Nimblefoot
12:08:07 PM
8/31/07

Mark, Uncliff, Tilt, Nimblefoot, ... You guys should know better than to argue with a guy who can't even read the words he wrote.
Geobeet
12:12:01 PM
8/31/07

Leave him alone. I writing a book,"If I had created WWII, this is How I would've done it."
uncliff
12:25:12 PM
8/31/07

Geo...hows it going...Stove is waving at you in YOUR personal thread...(LOL)
XL400236
12:56:03 PM
8/31/07

CS may be a form of tear gas BUT
in a confined area it can cause death in infants and older people. Here's an interesting read on Waco. It says that CS gas can be toxic in confined areas and that it can contribute to fires and when it does burn it emits even more toxic gases. It also says the the US signed a treaty to ban its use in warfare.

http://www.carolmoore.net/waco/TDM-09.html

Here's a good one on biological and poison gas. Notice that Israeli is one of the only countries that will not ratify the 1972 Treaty to ban biological and toxic gas weapons?

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/04/dayintech_0410
solitary hiker
4:51:45 PM
8/31/07

"President Bush said Tuesday he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina."
XLax

Ha ha, he's about two years too late and he's only now saying something now to assuage his "guilt" and deflect criticism.

Ah reckon only total schit-fer-brains will buy it.

But then again, a sociopath probably has no sense of guilt.
MarkO
5:39:32 PM
8/31/07

another example of no matter what Bush does...
Sarge
8:20:36 PM
8/31/07

The Federal response to Katrina was the largest and fastest in history.

Blaming a natural disaster on the President is business as usual for Democrats. The Democrats have 90% of media to support their agenda, so Republicans have to work that much harder.
bacpac
4:22:54 AM
9/01/07

I agree with bacpac on the katrina thing.
Bush is a WAR CRIMINAL but you can't blame him for a hurricane coming ashore in New Orleans. Katrina was a natural disaster.

But it didn't help that funds for levee work had been siphoned off by the government to fight the war in Iraq and that what funding that was available was diverted by an agency of the Louisanna state government. It was that agency that decided to use the money for good ole boy projects.

But let's get past the many failures of all forms of government and get back to the subject at hand. BUSH, CHENEY, GONZALES and the NEOCONS ARE WAR CRIMINALS. OUR CONGRESS IS COMPLICIT because the same special interests who give Bush/Cheney their marching orders give the Congress its re-election money.

IMO neither Bush nor Cheney will ever travel to an EU country after Jan 2009. They might be able to go to Israel or Saudia Arabia or Paraguay but those will be about the only places. The average US voter can't remember who last year's SuperBowl winner was but the Europeans have sharp memories of 20th century history. They know what a war criminal is and Bush/Cheney fit that bill.
last edited: 9/01/07 5:45:20 AM
solitary hiker
5:41:47 AM
9/01/07

SH...please explain why (using real law not FEEELINGs of a good Sthurmfuhrer) he is a WAR criminal?
XL400236
6:07:16 PM
9/01/07

XLax go over to the WAR CRIMINALS thread
If you want more on that subject. Let's go back to who is left in the Bush Admin.

Let's see? Now Tony Snow (Joseph Goebbles) is leaving. Fleeing the bunker like the rat he is. I guess he knows the jig is up. Pretty soon it will only be Bush (Caligula/Hitler), Cheney(Martin Borman)and Condi Rice (Eva Braun) holding out. Sitting with their maps of the Middle East and drawing out the new boundaries of E'retz Israel.......... Feverishly plotting nuclear "democracy" on Iran and any other nation that would come against US/Israel hegemony.
solitary hiker
8:02:31 AM
9/02/07

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