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“The heterosexual population is experiencing the largest increase in H.I.V. infection these days.
There aren't as many people dying from AIDS because of treatment.

MarkO
12:04:17 PM
9/10/07

Where are you getting this data?”
bacpac
6:34:48 AM
9/11/07

Those statements are somewhat correct according to reports from the CDC. I say somewhat because they do need some interpretation.

The Heterosexual community is experiencing the fastest percentage growth of new infections in the US. However, percentage per capita the gay community has higher figures. The gay community is also experiencing an increase in new infections, but the raw numbers are lower than growth in the heterosexual population.

People with AIDS are living longer because of treatment. The death rate amongst the human race is still pegged at 100% but life expectancy for HIV+ and AIDS infected individuals is higher than it has been.
Ramblinrev
5:12:51 AM
9/11/07

in other words, marko was correct. he didnt say the largest numbers or the most per capita, he said THE LARGEST INCREASE (I.E. THE FASTEST PERCENTAGE GROWTH)

hows this for a slogan:

no buttsex no needles no aids.

it aint rocket science
crash bang
5:47:44 AM
9/11/07

Crash...there are a whole bunch of ways to take that (LOL)...

Look its simple "the warnings we got in the 1980's about the Heterosexual AIDS thing were apocolyptic" and just like the Global Warming crap they are turning out to be mostly HYPE.

I think the best line about dealing with a friend who may "putt from the rough" was made years ago on a litle sit com (when sit coms had COMEDY) called Carter Country.

The Sheriff had a friend, they had been friends for YEARS and he just discovered his friend was a "toe tapper". He was asking this black deputy (the star of the show) how he should deal with it.

The deputy replied,"Well if I just met the guy thats different but if it is someone I have known for a long time...I don't think it would matter. I mean he is still the same guy I have always known."
XL400236
5:55:01 AM
9/11/07

there are a whole bunch of ways to take that

only if your comprehension skills are lacking
crash bang
5:56:32 AM
9/11/07

hows this for a slogan:

no buttsex no needles no aids.

it aint rocket science”
crash bang
8:47:44 AM
9/11/07

This is _not_ correct. The spread of heterosexual HIV infection is largely due to prostitution. The highest increase in new infections is among women for a variety of reasons. The #&%!$ is easier to protect than the vaginal lining, particularly if the man is circumsized. The use of nonoxinol-9, the most common topical contraceptive compound, has been shown to cause sores and lesions in vaginal tissure allowing openings for the infection. Repeated exposure to a female carrier is more likely to infect the male. Therefore the elimination of anal receptive sex is not the sole criteria for stopping the heterosexual spread of the infection.

It is also possible to carry the virus and pass it on, without showing signs of, or developing full blown AIDS. AIDS is clinically described as having a T-cell count below a certain number and a viral load over a certain number. (I am not a clinician and I don't remember the specific numbers.) HIV+ is merely a designation that the virus is present is sufficient concentration to be detected.
Ramblinrev
6:24:40 AM
9/11/07

ok fine

more buttsecks for everyone!
crash bang
6:32:40 AM
9/11/07

Those statements are somewhat correct according to reports from the CDC. I say somewhat because they do need some interpretation.

The Heterosexual community is experiencing the fastest percentage growth of new infections in the US. However, percentage per capita the gay community has higher figures. The gay community is also experiencing an increase in new infections, but the raw numbers are lower than growth in the heterosexual population.

People with AIDS are living longer because of treatment. The death rate amongst the human race is still pegged at 100% but life expectancy for HIV+ and AIDS infected individuals is higher than it has been.”
Ramblinrev
5:12:51 AM
9/11/07

The data I find on the CDC website does not support this. Perhaps I am not looking in the right place.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/resources/reports/2005report/table3.htm
bacpac
8:08:40 AM
9/11/07

You are looking in the right place, but your math skills appear to me to be deficient. Separate out the male to male sexual contact numbers, add the female numbers and the male to male sexual contact number is the lower of the the numbers. Seems to be pretty self evident to me.

761,723 subtotal male adult/adolescent
-229,752 Male adult by sexual contact
--------
531,971 Numbers _not_ by male sexual contact
+181,802 subtotal of a female infections
--------
713,773 Total not by male-to-male sex

Male-to-male sexual contact is 229,752. That includes the dual risk of male-to-male contact and Drug use. All other infections can be assumed to be non-male-to-male sexual contact. Because the homosexual transmission is singled out, it can be legitamately assumed the rest of the infections would fall into the heterosexual grouping. Looks pretty clear to me.
Ramblinrev
9:15:09 AM
9/11/07

you forgot the numbers for metrosexual genders
crash bang
9:27:29 AM
9/11/07

CB - Do metrosexuals even have a$$ h****?
ChinMusic
9:45:14 AM
9/11/07

due to all the perfectly nutritious, non-junk food they eat, theyve evolved no asholes since they dont need to poo anymore
crash bang
9:48:20 AM
9/11/07

It is not my math that is flawed.

If you take the percentage of increase from 2004 to 2005 you will find that heterosexual sexual transmission is at a lower rate than homosexual transmission.
bacpac
9:59:12 AM
9/11/07

I amy have mis-spoken. I am not a math whiz and I don't deal with this data consistently. But it is clear to me the cumulative number of new infections in the heterosexual community far outweighs the rise of new infection in the same-sex category. Suffice it to say, it is no longer "The Gay Disease"
Ramblinrev
10:17:17 AM
9/11/07

How can it be clear if the data says otherwise?

Let me guess. You are a liberal.
bacpac
10:45:27 AM
9/11/07

“How can it be clear if the data says otherwise?

Let me guess. You are a liberal.”
bacpac
1:45:27 PM
9/11/07


Silly me... I forgot.. you're a troll.
Ramblinrev
11:02:31 AM
9/11/07

Ouch, that really stings. Let me know when you get some data on that whole troll thing. I will give you a math lesson on that as well.
bacpac
12:01:56 PM
9/11/07

Um Rev..no disrespect here but?

Suffice it to say, it is no longer "The Gay Disease"”
Ramblinrev
11:17:17 AM



Isn't that what all the closet gays say?
XL400236
12:34:02 PM
9/11/07

The CDC is an interesting place. Lots of cool data. According to 2003 data, heterosexuals are more likely to die from homicide than contract HIV.

I would say hiking with an HIV person would be minimal risk unless they tried to kill you.
bacpac
4:50:14 PM
9/11/07

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