open your wallets and pay for your war!!

“The libbies were saying 50,000-100,000 were going to die in the initial attack against Saddam? We're only at 5,000? Cool!”

“Hey EnS - We still need help rebuilding New Orleans!”

“He sent his money there, I'm sure. Yeah right!

His money went to booze.

all talk, no walk”

“LOL....I love their lines. Anyone want to look at the 42nd administration's dealing with Terrorisim...vs the 43rd. Let see figuring the first attack in 1993 against WTC

1996, 1998 and 2000....all by Islamic Terrorists...response...ZIP ZERO NADA...chuck a couple of missiles at empty caves and an Aspirin factory in Sudan. Result NO Casualties among the terrorists

Since 2001 (actually since the 2003 invasion of Iraq) there have been an estimated elimination of something like

At least 70 percent of al Qaeda's senior leadership has been detained or killed since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks triggered a worldwide offensive against the network, and the remaining 30 percent is largely on the run, State Department counterterrorism coordinator J. Cofer Black testified. The movement has been "deeply wounded" by the elimination or arrest of more than 3,400 lower-level members and allies, forcing it "to evolve in ways not entirely by its own choosing," he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A43330-2004Apr1?language=printer

IN the consideration of military purposes (kill people and break things) this is success.”

“EnS really impressed me when he was bragging about how he helped the hurricane victims/sarc.
He was working, making big bucks overtime, for his insurance company.
Some 'help'.”

“Damn I hate it when drunks get all chatty.”

“LOL.....yeah I heard the same thing. We dealt with dolts who went to N.O. With "donated" medical supplies to treat anybody.”

“hiccup”

“I'll agree to a sur-tax to pay for New Orleans. I agree to a surtax to pay for the stupid war..”

“stove stomper, I don't know what big bucks you're talking about.”

“Are you saying you did not get paid anything for your extra hours?”

“Who's working now..................eh?”

“ENS will you agree to a surtax to buy drugs or alchohol for addicts? I mean most of them are pretty pitiful and really NEED the substances to "survive" as they think.

How bout the Pedophile...come on here think about these poor guys (okay couple of girls two) who can only be pleased by a small child....they need FREE MONEY to "meet their needs".....(LOL)


We need a surtax for people who invested in bad business decisions...lets start with the Buggy Whip People, or the Slide Rule employees. And HOW ABOUT the poor schlub who dumped his paycheck and house to gamble? I think we might as well have a surtax to pay for that too. Yeah I mean they have families, their families are going to suffer if they don't get support.

Hey, I wish I could take a vacation to say Hawaii...lets make GOVERNMENT SPONSORED VACATIONS...yeah every year we will get paid two weeks leave and can travel WHERE we want to, fully paid.

LOL”

“XL, why do you work for the very people you seem to hate so much?”

“I don't know if I should LOL or feel sorry for ya, XLax.

If you ain't drunk, you must be insane.”

“LOL>.duct I started here with the same "starry eyed" attitude you libbies have. I was going to CHANGE people....here is something I found out...they have to WANT to change. Anything beyond that and you are enabling them to be failures.

I have seen WAAAY too many people get their lives destroyed by events...pick up and move on. Then they become successes.”

“So why not change them - You're not really helping the people when you show them the contempt like you seem to on a daily basis.”

“You're not really helping the people when you show them the contempt like you seem to on a daily basis.

Like some people on here and the military, ... oh, and the country.”

“Y2 I have no contempt for them, but I refuse to buy into the "POOOR little victim status" they have been trained to use.

You may not understand but when you get the same "bad decisions" story day after day...and then they look at you like some drunk begging for another drink and ask for free money (not out of humility) but they ask it in the tone of YOU OWE ME!!!

Tell you what, you go to court for a person who set fire to their own apartment (allegedly accidentally) she will have to pay the deductible (lets say 1 grand in a bill that will run in excess of 30 grand) (which is MUCH lower than normal apartment complexes) but she is suing becuase she feels she is not responsible for the damages.

Oh Sarge...when they insult the heroes in the war (like MURTHA) they are really supporting the troops. If we point out a fake we are insulting the troops. (LOL) Hypocrisy is such a liberal family value.
last edited: 10/04/07 11:56:07 AM”

“y2 is so silly.”

“So all the people you deal with are like that then. We can all find bad examples. Does what Ken Lay did mean we should assume that all Chairman of public companies are corrupt?”

“Well that is what the libbies here tend to say....(ooops sorry just remembered different standards for different people right?)

As a matter of over two decades dealing with the lower end of society I have found MANY of the people to be really good people. (And if you will check you will find out where I have said that) My problem is with the 10-15% who seem to think they are owed a free life. By Free I mean NO responsibility. The slave masters for them are all too willing to jump up and defend them (Jessie, Al you know who you are) and if it is discovered they were wrong...we get the "never mind" of Emily Litella.

Y2 did you ever have to play ball with that kid who had a different set of rules for him and everyone else? Imagine having to work with that kid?

The really sad thing is I will get the starry eyed liberals in here, dedicated to "Changing the world" and within a year or so they have either quit (85%) or they come to me and tell me how wrong they were about me.”

“You're a legend in your own mind.”

“stove stomper, the money I got was my normal pay check plus $50 a day for working 15 hours days. I didn't get overtime because I am salary. After taxes and deductions, I basically got nothing. The only thing I got was a lot of free meals at decent restaurants.

I did not make the big bucks you think I did. I worked 15 straight days talking to people on the phone, trying to help them locate their cars under the flood.

I didn't handle home owner claims. I am an auto adjuster. I handle vehicle claims and I don't work for allstate. I know you hate insurance adjusters and I am sorry for your bad experience, but it has nothing to do with me and I did not capitalize off your plight like you think I did.
last edited: 10/04/07 12:25:31 PM”

“Insurance people are like lawyers; everyone hates them until they need one.”

“I was going to say...ENS from my experience Insurance Claim people just WORK there is no overtime (other than the per diem for being on the road). Are you able to tell who you do claims for?

Yeah during disasters or natural (oh craps!) I have found the corporate Adjusters work their a$$es off. The ones I hate to run into are the "free lancer" types.

OH Geo, (waving) I understand what you meant...and thats okay I forgive you for your hatered.”

“ENS - which was actually pumping money into the local community down there. The thing that gets me is the guy doesn't give a crap about other people getting screwed - but when it's him it's a different story.

XL - I'm sure there are people who are just looking to work the system and I do't have much time for them either - but the problem is that when you try to root them out, you hurt a lot of the truely needy in the process. Despite what some people here would have us believe, Welfare is not a bed of roses for most people.”

“extralarge has an uncanny ability to post things in threads that have nothing to do with the conversation.

I see it often.”

“You libbies? Who you callin you libbies?

Just because I disagree with many of your over-generalized opinions does not make me a libby.”

“Ductape - the gameis is that anyone slightly left of them is labelled libbies - it's part of the process of trying to dismiss the other view.
These guys pick it up from talk radio.
It's a common game - call the person liberal, then tell them what they think.”

“The same way anyone right of center gets called a Rush loving neo-con.”

“y2 can smear with the best of them, don't be fooled.”

“Y2 it is usually the people who are "cheating the system" who are also abusing the people in the system. We did an entry on an apartment of a woman who claimed three children. When we entered we found NO, Zip, Zero NADA evidence children were in the apartment in the past few weeks.

When she was arrested, and evicted...you would be amazed at the number of people who came out of the woodwork thanking us for taking her down. Its one of those things...the 20% who are bad really do screw it up for the 80% who would love to get out of the government sponsored slavery.”

“I don't think they are nigal - Only the ones parroting what he says - you know, the ones more interested in telling us what 'liberals' think and do.”

“No a Libbie in my book is anyone who puts Government solutions among People solutions.

LOL the really neat thing is if the War in Iraq was going as badly as the War on Poverty...there would have been a revolution by now.”

“There is no "equal and opposite" to the neo-cons.

Most people hover around the political center and most of them don't like what the neo-cons have been up to.

Those people get labelled "extreme left" and, like Y2 said, are told what they think.”

“MarkO and I consider ourselves 'center'. ;-)”

“Most people hover around the political center and most of them don't like what the neo-cons have been up to.

The true reality is that there are few people who are extreme in their views and most do float in the middle. I would think a reasonable democrat is just as frustrated with the likes of Ted Kennedy and Dennis Cusinich as those on the other end are of Bush and Cheney.”

“Nigal I hate to tell you but Bush and Cheney are in the middle. Sorry they are pretty much Socialist Light. The reason many people are tired of them is that they have not lived up to the image they tried to develop in 1999.”

“Yes but they are representative of the right.”

“Um their version of the Right...the represent the "blueblood" right. Which is the party of Nixon, Ford, Dole and Bush 41. They actually despised Reagan/Gingrich and his smaller government ideas.”

“nah - they're pretty right-wing - the only difference I see is that they were over politicized by the roll of Rove and weren't conviction politicians, consequently too many deals were struck, watering down policy.
And they also had 9/11 - I don't agree with how they handled things, but that changed the destiny of this administration for sure.

they've also been strongly socially conservative.
last edited: 10/04/07 2:23:08 PM”

“LOL....I love their lines. Anyone want to look at the 42nd administration's dealing with Terrorisim...vs the 43rd. Let see figuring the first attack in 1993 against WTC

1996, 1998 and 2000....all by Islamic Terrorists...response...ZIP ZERO NADA...chuck a couple of missiles at empty caves and an Aspirin factory in Sudan. Result NO Casualties among the terrorists

Since 2001 (actually since the 2003 invasion of Iraq) there have been an estimated elimination of something like

At least 70 percent of al Qaeda's senior leadership has been detained or killed since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks triggered a worldwide offensive against the network, and the remaining 30 percent is largely on the run, State Department counterterrorism coordinator J. Cofer Black testified. The movement has been "deeply wounded" by the elimination or arrest of more than 3,400 lower-level members and allies, forcing it "to evolve in ways not entirely by its own choosing," he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A43330-2004Apr1?language=printer

IN the consideration of military purposes (kill people and break things) this is success.”
XL400236
10:34:29 PM
10/03/07

MY, my, my. XL using a libbie source? And from 2004, no less.

Of course, nothing has changed since 2004. Might as well be 1944........



U.S. Warns Of Stronger Al-Qaeda
Administration Report Cites Havens in Pakistan

By Spencer S. Hsu and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, July 12, 2007; A01

Six years after the Bush administration declared war on al-Qaeda, the terrorist network is gaining strength and has established a safe haven in remote tribal areas of western Pakistan for training and planning attacks, according to a new Bush administration intelligence report to be discussed today at a White House meeting.

The report, a five-page threat assessment compiled by the National Counterterrorism Center, is titled "Al-Qaida Better Positioned to Strike the West," intelligence officials said. It concludes that the group has significantly rebuilt itself despite concerted U.S. attempts to smash the network.

more

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/11/AR2007071102443_pf.html”

“Even better:

The New Al-Qaeda Central
Far From Declining, the Network Has Rebuilt, With Fresh Faces and a Vigorous Media Arm

By Craig Whitlock
Washington Post Foreign Service
Sunday, September 9, 2007; A01

PESHAWAR, Pakistan -- When Osama bin Laden resurfaced Friday in a 26-minute videotaped speech, his most important message was one left unsaid: We have survived.

The last time bin Laden showed his face to the world was three years ago, in October 2004. Since then, al-Qaeda's core leadership -- dubbed al-Qaeda Central by intelligence analysts -- has grown stronger, rebuilding the organizational framework that was badly damaged after the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan, according to counterterrorism officials in Pakistan, the United States and Europe.

It has accomplished this revival, the officials said in interviews, by drawing on lessons learned during 15 years of failed campaigns to destroy it. In that period, bin Laden and his followers have outfoxed powerful enemies from the Soviet army to the Saudi royal family to the CIA.

Dodging the U.S. military in Afghanistan after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, al-Qaeda Central reconstituted itself across the Pakistani border, returning to the rugged tribal areas surrounding the organization's birthplace, the dusty frontier city of Peshawar. In the first few years, Pakistani and U.S. authorities captured many senior leaders; in the past 18 months, no major figure has been killed or caught in Pakistan.

Al-Qaeda Central moved quickly to overcome extensive leadership losses by promoting loyalists who had served alongside bin Laden for years. It restarted fundraising, recruiting and training. And it expanded its media arm into perhaps the most effective propaganda machine ever assembled by a terrorist or insurgent network.

Today, al-Qaeda operates much the way it did before 2001. The network is governed by a shura, or leadership council, that meets regularly and reports to bin Laden, who continues to approve some major decisions, according to a senior U.S. intelligence official. About 200 people belong to the core group and many receive regular salaries, another senior U.S. intelligence official said.

More:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/08/AR2007090801845_pf.html”

“Reagan -you say small government-get real government grow more in his 8 years than ever before. Now, I find out Busheney is a damn libby and all along I thought the supreme court appointed a republican. With 31%(new) approval, I'd want to put a (D) behind his name also.”

“Bush and Cheney have been "pretty right wing"??? LMAO!

Wow.

Some people have completely lost touch.”

“Uncliff you are right...and now for the "Maybe I didn't study civics in Government School but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night Award"

WHO passes the budget (that means "spends the money")?

The Answer is CONGRESS ..that is why I was just as happy as anyone to see a bunch of long term Blue Bloods (WHOOHOO Domenici is GONE) lose their jobs in the R category over the past few years.”