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I must be getting conservative in my old age. I saw an article in yesterdays paper that said a majority of Americans think we don't need nuclear weapons.

People know I'm no fan of many of many of our government's foreign policy adventures, but with all the countries that have nuclear weapons - I think we'd be in tough shape if we didn't have any.
last edited: 11/19/07 9:26:05 AM
pedxing
9:24:50 AM
11/19/07

Just goes to show that a "majority of Americans" doesn't make it right. You hear that V-man and others who base your beliefs on polls?
Sarge
9:50:46 AM
11/19/07

But Mon, I'm the only kid at school that just has a knife.
salebored
10:17:16 AM
11/19/07

Never bring a knife to a nuke fight.
Nonconformist
10:20:03 AM
11/19/07


No one likes us-I don't know why
We may not be perfect, but heaven knows we try
But all around, even our old friends put us down
Let's drop the big one and see what happens

We give them money-but are they grateful?
No, they're spiteful and they're hateful
They don't respect us-so let's surprise them
We'll drop the big one and pulverize them

Asia's crowded and Europe's too old
Africa is far too hot
And Canada's too cold
And South America stole our name
Let's drop the big one
There'll be no one left to blame us

We'll save Australia
Don't wanna hurt no kangaroo
We'll build an All American amusement park there
They got surfin', too

Boom goes London and boom Paris
More room for you and more room for me
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town
Oh, how peaceful it will be
We'll set everybody free
You'll wear a Japanese kimono
And there'll be Italian shoes for me

They all hate us anyhow
So let's drop the big one now
Let's drop the big one now
jonnycat
10:25:01 AM
11/19/07

Where are the ones that make electricity? Where is the one that shuld be installed under CapitAl Hill, as an incentive?

Pervez is bad , but look whose finger is on the really big Button.
last edited: 11/19/07 10:31:15 AM
salebored
10:26:45 AM
11/19/07

Shows you that the majority of "Americans" that were polled for this particular poll are fools.
StoveStomper
10:28:51 AM
11/19/07


        Atoms For Peace!

Tilt
10:38:20 AM
11/19/07

Peace at all costs, even if it means going to war to achieve it!
ChicagolandRon
10:41:34 AM
11/19/07

LOL...I still like to ask the question..."If the United States were not the Lone Superpower, who would you choose in their place?"
XL400236
12:14:06 PM
11/19/07

“LOL...I still like to ask the question..."If the United States were not the Lone Superpower, who would you choose in their place?"”
XL400236
1:14:06 PM
11/19/07

Canada, the European Union... or a number of European States.
pedxing
12:25:08 PM
11/19/07

“LOL...I still like to ask the question..."If the United States were not the Lone Superpower, who would you choose in their place?"”

The Duchy of Grand Fenwick?
ChuckD
1:23:30 PM
11/19/07

LOL.....
XL400236
1:41:57 PM
11/19/07

We could dismantle 90% of the warheads and and still destroy the entire planet.  Why pay for all the #&%!$ing overkill?

Send the surplus nuke babysitters back to school to learn a productive trade.... like how to unload container ships from China.
Tilt
6:27:32 PM
11/19/07

It is the Democrats who want the U.S. to unilaterally give up its nuclear arsenal. They think that will make the whole world love us.
prosecutor
6:34:56 PM
11/19/07

You're an idiot.
Tilt
6:38:48 PM
11/19/07

Um, no, you're the idiot.
We could dismantle 90% of the warheads and and still destroy the entire planet.
Tilt
8:27:32 PM
11/19/07
Nonconformist
6:50:43 PM
11/19/07

Load the space shuttle full of nukes and let Capts. George and Dick takem out into the great yonder.
last edited: 11/19/07 6:51:42 PM
salebored
6:51:36 PM
11/19/07

you can have my nuke when you pry it from my cold, dead, mutated hand
crash bang
7:00:05 PM
11/19/07

By "nuke", do you mean wiener?
Sarge
7:01:10 PM
11/19/07

No, you're a worthless POS,  LOL
Tilt
7:02:42 PM
11/19/07

Poor tiltypoo's need to be peceived as a 'smart' person sure has taken a beating today.
StoveStomper
7:02:47 PM
11/19/07

Load the space shuttle full of TT servers and let Capts. George and Dick takem out into the great yonder.
salebored
7:05:28 PM
11/19/07

LOL!
Sarge
7:05:33 PM
11/19/07

Worthless is such a subjective term. :P
Nonconformist
7:09:03 PM
11/19/07

Ped - name a country we couldn't actually lay to waste with conventional weapons within a year of a full invasion? I mean, if we really wanted to.....no #&%!$footing around?


Nuclear weapons are obsolete.
last edited: 11/19/07 7:12:53 PM
bearmagnet
7:13:05 PM
11/19/07

bm, you really wanna give a rogue nation reason to be bold? i'm sorry, but i prefer knowing that no ones going to fck with us cuz they know we could wipe them off the map if they did, rather than the possibility that they might fck with us, because they think they got home-field advantage. do we REALLY want another protraced war?
crash bang
7:18:56 PM
11/19/07

No, really.

Ed has regressed to the point where he just shows up once in a while to troll with some Ann Coulter lines.... and you prop him up.  What does that make you?  "The troll's little buddy"?

Anything but a nonconformist.
Tilt
7:19:31 PM
11/19/07

About the only person more conformist to the Hate America Left program than poor tiltypoo, is MarkO.
last edited: 11/19/07 7:24:44 PM
StoveStomper
7:25:01 PM
11/19/07

Can we squeeze y2 and lee in there too please? Or are they too much of trolls to be considered seriously?
Sarge
7:26:07 PM
11/19/07

you guys are
crash bang
7:26:33 PM
11/19/07

Really?

;-)
StoveStomper
7:28:37 PM
11/19/07

What!?
Sarge
7:29:10 PM
11/19/07

crash bang
7:30:29 PM
11/19/07

bm, you really wanna give a rogue nation reason to be bold? i'm sorry, but i prefer knowing that no ones going to fck with us cuz they know we could wipe them off the map if they did, rather than the possibility that they might fck with us, because they think they got home-field advantage. do we REALLY want another protraced war?”
crash bang
10:18:56 PM
11/19/07


Whens the last time we've used them and how many conflicts have we had since? How many Nuclear Powers have had conflicts and not used them?

It can't be a deterrent when everyone knows we won't use them.
bearmagnet
7:31:10 PM
11/19/07

oh geesh - from cats to birds
Sarge
7:35:42 PM
11/19/07

It can't be a deterrent when everyone knows we won't use them

well, then, if we wont use them, whats to worry about?

at least we've got options. and i'd be willing to bet that the threat of being squashed like a bug would keep many rogue countries at bay
crash bang
7:35:55 PM
11/19/07

Whens the last time we've used them and how many conflicts have we had since

a lot

how many on our soil?
crash bang
7:37:18 PM
11/19/07

We can squash with conventional forces. What's the cost to keep up the nuclear arsenal? Money and hazardous waste?
bearmagnet
7:37:51 PM
11/19/07

KILL! KILL! KILL!
Sarge
7:37:55 PM
11/19/07

how many on our soil?”

NK would invade us if we didn't have Nuclear weapons?
last edited: 11/19/07 7:39:03 PM
bearmagnet
7:39:28 PM
11/19/07

We can squash with conventional forces

i wouldnt call taking a year to do it "squashing"

What's the cost to keep up the nuclear arsenal? Money and hazardous waste

then we should scale down. but not eliminate
crash bang
7:45:14 PM
11/19/07

Nk would invade us if we didn't have Britainy Spears driving.
salebored
7:45:30 PM
11/19/07

bm, do something about the italics, please
crash bang
7:45:59 PM
11/19/07

I was being generous. Indiscriminate weapons are obsolete.

and since we would never nuke a country into submission then the short timeline is moot.
last edited: 11/19/07 7:47:27 PM
bearmagnet
7:46:37 PM
11/19/07

“Ped - name a country we couldn't actually lay to waste with conventional weapons within a year of a full invasion? I mean, if we really wanted to.....no #&%!$footing around?

Nuclear weapons are obsolete.

last edited: 11/19/07 8:12:53 PM”
bearmagnet
8:13:05 PM

China, possibly Russia, - their nukes would toast us before we could finish the job. Furthermore, China is getting stronger all the time and thirstier for oil and other raw materials.

However, even if it took just a week to lay waste to a nation that had a lot of nukes, they could get a lot done with nukes in the first couple days.

Think of this scenario: China wants to take Taiwan. They might go ahead and try one day. If the US had no nukes, they would probably decide sooner or later to take it figuring that if the US tries to stop it, they can pretty much cook us before we can do much about it. It wouldn't be too hard to imagine them figuring we'd back off when push came to shove. Either they would be right and one large thriving democracy is gone and the balance of power in Asia is upset with little cost to the China or we've got one heck of a hot war on out hands.

I agree with Tilt that we have more nukes than we need.
pedxing
2:34:53 AM
11/20/07

Furthermore, China is getting stronger all the time and thirstier for oil and other raw materials

We would lose a war with China no matter how we fought it.
Nigal
2:47:26 AM
11/20/07

The abolition of nuclear weapons is the dangerous and impractical dream of the isolationist Democrats. They think it would be possible to uninventing and erasing from the human knowledge of how to build such weapons by countries like Iran, or by the world's future Saddam Hussein. Israel would cease to exist if it were not for its own nuclear deterent. The invention of the nuclear bomb has kept the world from having a succession of world wars that existed for many centuries before nuclear bombs ended World War Two.
prosecutor
3:28:23 AM
11/20/07

i feel all icky agreeing with the conservatives
crash bang
3:48:13 AM
11/20/07

Reverend Truth V Wicked
3:54:40 AM
11/20/07

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