Giuliani's Dirty Laundry

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Giuliani's Dirty Laundry Gets a Nationwide Airing
By Craig Crawford | November 30, 2007 6:00 AM

Rudy Giuliani offers a good enough excuse for the weird accounting practices for his security detail�s travel with him while he was New York mayor. He says the police department was so slow in paying its expenses that City Hall picked up the tab and was reimbursed later.

But the excuse is not good enough to repair the potential damage to his bid for the Republican presidential nomination. That�s because what Giuliani isn�t denying is that these expenses involved personal trips with his then-mistress, Judith Nathan (who is now his wife). The trouble is that he was married to someone else at the time. This means that the flurry of news reports about these matters are highlighting the period in his life when he was conducting an adulterous affair. And the strange expensing of those trips gives the impression that the mayor�s office was trying to keep them out of public view.

There are still plenty of GOP voters outside New York who have not heard the sordid details about Giuliani�s personal life in those days (which, by the way, is the reason that his children barely speak to him). And stories like this, even if you accept his explanations for how the expenses were handled, only serve to introduce the dirty details to voters around the country.

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“Run that schit right up the flagpole!!”

“hehe - so much for "what happens in his bedroom, is his business".

So libs, were you lying before when you defended (and continue) Clinton??”

“You silly libby left wing socialist commie log licking Hillary ---Wait is that you Rudy? Oh No it's Tilt.”

“Rudy may wish he was a demwit instead of a thee thouist.”

“Clinton didn't try to sell a line of #&%!$ to the so-called "Moral Majority" like Rudy's trying to do.... and with that psychotic #&%!$ Robertson propping him up?? � � � It's #&%!$ing hilarious!”

“Rudy is trying to sell morality? Really? Like what?”

“Anyways, my question was ... you guys said "what happens in the bedroom, stays in the bedroom - it's their business".

What happened to the philosophy? Did it change?”

“Sarge, try reading the stories.

Rudy spent NYC money to have security details protect both his wife and his girlfriend.”

“What a fraud!

And his Fans! � � � LMAO!”

“MarkO, Clinton spent Arkansas money to have security details protect his private rape sessions. What is your point?”

“For the record, MarkO, I'm not a Rudy supporter at all. I just recognize the hypocrisy of the left.”

“I wonder how much NYC taxpayers paid so that Rudy could carry on an adulterous affair.

If he was willing to do this, I wonder what else they footed the bill for.”

“I wonder what Kerik will cough up when the Feds really begin to squeeze him.

(remember how well things went for Jack Abramoff's former pals....)”

“you people pick on him but would you honestly rather hilarry! if you do you im sorry but you are just another uneducated voter”

“Why is ol' tiltypoo trying to hide his blog source?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

But for God's sake --- don't depend on blogs (or outlets who repeat the rumors and outright lies from blogs). Your own credibility will suffer.”
Tilt
10:57:45 AM
9/18/07

Are all crazy lefties such hypocripes?”

“�you people pick on him but would you honestly rather hilarry! if you do you im sorry but you are just another uneducated voter�

Ya know whats really sad and scary? The fact the the Republicans have botched things up so badly that Hillary COULD
become President in the first place. How #&%!$ed up is that, LOL.

Bastards.”

“Who is this new troll?”

“the only ammunition the dems seem to have is.. "look how bad bush was"...its getting old.. yes we all know he sucked as president but that shouldnt affect your opinion on republicans in general. Im not gunna sit here and rant and rave about how bad clinton was becuase weve all heard it a thousand times.. singular people shouldn't effect entire parties as much as they do. its the uneducated who make these comparisons and unfortunatly much of the united states IS uneducated.”

“LOL, you think the country is simply tired of Bush? You havent been keeping up.

You don't get out much do ya?
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“you cant deny that that is in fact the main argument.. im not saying thats all there is”

“and as for getting out more..im a LT. in the U.S. Navy .. you dont get out much more than me..”

“Who's main argument? I said it was because of the "Republicans" not Bush. Your the one claiming it's not Bushes fault.”

“Fill out your profile and I'll take you more seriously.”

“idk if you noticed.. but i didnt jump in attacking u .. it was u on me.. so again i never related it to you.. i related it to PEOPLE IN GENERAL..that may include you...but i did not single you out so now you can calm yourself”

“honestly i hate argueing especially about politics.. so im done now but if you ever say the cubs are better than the cardinals your in for quite a fight man! lol”

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Dude! � How many hours per day do you watch C-SPAN? �� LMAO

You ought to check it out. � Authors' readings from various DC-area bookstores and symposia at various public policy think tanks (AEI, Brookings, Heritage, Cato, Progressive Policy Institute, Hoover, .... you-name-it) are much more educational than the hot air that blows when Congress is in session. �They should take longer vacations! �

Washington Journal is a great morning show, comparing headlines in various papers.... but so many of the callers (and guests) simply regurgitate talking points. �Watch for Charlie Cook's people. � They do good work and are straight-shooters.

Then there's BookTV on C-SPAN2 on the weekends (more public policy, more history).... Panels of non-fiction authors at various book fairs around the country.... and on Sundays you have Q & A.... In Depth � [3 whole hours with Newt (live) this Sunday starting at noon, EST... you should email a question or call in).... After Words .... (Booknotes, RIP).

Congressional Quarterly and The Hill both have free email updates daily (plus breaking news).


The Republican base should toss Rudy long before the General..... unless they haven't wised up any since the last time. �Evangelicals are nearly in open revolt, talking about recruiting an independent. �Huckabee has the momentum at the moment ---- but we'll see what happens when Romney's attack ads really get going, esp. in Iowa.


Did you happen to catch what Hagel said at the CFR on Wednesday?

� � � � -- Wow --

There are many news reports bouncing around, but here's a transcript.

Go to the primary source, I always say.

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“stlcards5rules....

OK, I wont comment on the Cardinals ;-)

The fuego threads are kinda bare knuckle, it can get rather bloody in here, LOL.

Feel free to post a hello thread. You may have and I didn't see it. There are some great folks here. There are also some not so great, we are a big dysfunctional family.

Welcome to the jungle.”

“(I don't waste any analysis on Sarge.... �He's lucky to get an occasional one-liner from me, � LOL)”

“http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2007/11/giulianis-dirty-laundry-gets-a.html
tiltypoo's link

Dude! What part of blogs did you not understand? LMAO


But for God's sake --- don't depend on blogs (or outlets who repeat the rumors and outright lies from blogs). Your own credibility will suffer.”
Tilt
10:57:45 AM
9/18/07

Are all crazy lefties such hypocripes?”

“Note:
Craig Crawford is a pro with decades of experience in national politics (currently with Congressional Quarterly, that piece was on their site) ---- not a simple flamebaiter like our dear friend Kevin.

That will have to do you until 2008.... Happy Holidays.”

“I wonder why I never see these guys posting a positive thread about their candidates but only negative ones about their opponents?

I think Q and maybe Treebeard are the only two I've ever seen.

So much hate and so little hope.”

“if Q is the last bastion of positive vibes in this place, we're in trouble”

“Yeah... its really hateful to point out that a leading presidential candidate had his security detail stay in hotels while he boffed his mistress and then hid the payments from public view by taking funds from various city departments. The public treasury is really just a politician's private piggy bank anyway, right?”

“while we're speaking of hate, i HATE that people cant not bugger up the threads with all bolds or all italics because they tried to get cute with html instead of using the buttons like everyone else”

“OKATIE, SC -- Giuliani refused to take questions here today about allegations that travel expenses were picked up by obscure city offices when he was mayor of New York City.

�We�ve already explained it,� he said, walking past reporters after a town hall meeting.

Giuliani, who is normally friendly to reporters, bristled past them, and campaign staffers were unusually physical in keeping the press away. Several campaign aides told campaign reporters to return to the press area, and some of his security detail manhandled reporters. On other occasions, reporters have been free to video Giuliani as he is shaking hands and signing autographs after events, and he often informally takes questions from reporters.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/30/489510.aspx
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“Hmmmmm.... I did two 'close italics' tags to no effect.... Looks like we've got a 'bold' problem also....

I'm just glad it wasn't ME (for once).
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“�http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2007/11/giulianis-dirty-laundry-gets-a.html
tiltypoo's link

Dude! What part of blogs did you not understand? LMAO


But for God's sake --- don't depend on blogs (or outlets who repeat the rumors and outright lies from blogs). Your own credibility will suffer.”
Tilt
10:57:45 AM
9/18/07

Are all crazy lefties such hypocripes?�
StoveStomper
10:06:46 PM
11/30/07

�Note:
Craig Crawford is a pro with decades of experience in national politics (currently with Congressional Quarterly, that piece was on their site) ---- not a simple flamebaiter like our dear friend Kevin.

That will have to do you until 2008.... Happy Holidays.�

So tiltypoo's answer is it's OK for me, but not for you. LMAO!

Typical Hypocrite Tilypoo!
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“Which hypocrisy would it be, the one where you call cowards of those who did serve but are against the war, while you are for the war but didn't serve? Would it be that hypocrisy? Straighten me out on this, I think I need a link or a blog...someone else's truth, or something.”

“I dunno, Nimble.

There might be a small hedgehog somewhere.


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“What's the significance of the clip V? Was that snipped, cut, and taped back together by a 3rd grader? Very poor quality job there.”

“Well... you can watch all 48 minutes here if you want, but its clear that Rudy thinks that tough questions about his dealings with Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, Hugo Chavez, and a Hong Kong billionaire who was close with Kim Jung Il are downright hilarious... or does he?”

“Oh I see, this must be your first time dealing with politics then. Because if you had had any prior dealings with politics and politicians you would have known this is what they ALL DO. From Ronald Reagan's innocent, "Well...", to Clinton's #&%!$ eating, impish grin, to Squinty McGee's blank smile.”

“LOL..V spends so much time pointing out the "glitches" in the Republicans he can't see the incredible plethora of PURE corruption in his party...but then Libbies have always been partial to the Potemkin Village stuff.”