Hiker Missing on Blood Mountain

“Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a serial killer.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/15011719/detail.html

"DAWSONVILLE, Ga. -- The Leon County, Florida, sheriff's office said the man charged with murder in the death of 24-year-old hiker Meredith Emerson can be considered a prime suspect in the death of Cheryl Hodges Dunlap.

Her body was found December 19th in the Apalachicola National Forest, southwest of Tallahassee. Sheriff's Major Mike Wood said today that authorities have confirmed that Gary Michael Hilton was in the area at the time of Dunlap's disappearance.

Authorities also confirmed the body of Dunlap was decapitated just like Emerson."



There are some other details in that news release that I won't post here.

However from another link.. http://www.wsbtv.com/news/15009776/detail.html

"In another case, the body of Patrice Endres was found not far from where Emerson's body was dumped."

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“How depressing.”

“How is this guy getting the PIN codes?

"a tall thin man is a suspect in the case because of his use of the ATM card belonging to Cheryl Dunlap of Crawfordville"



"Wood said Tuesday that Dunlap’s ATM card was used at an undisclosed location on West Tennessee Street on Dec. 2, 3 and 4. The first two transactions were made about 9:30 p.m.; the last one, about 7 a.m."
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“It's likely he got the codes by unthinkably horrible means.

Hilton is one sick mother#&%!$er.
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“awww geez, those sketches look just like him...especially the scruffy one with the hat...”

“you don't have to have the code...if it is a check card, you can use it like a credit card..”

“That would be my guess too.

Thankfully the families of his victim(s) may have some closure now that he is caught.”

“you don't have to have the code...if it is a check card, you can use it like a credit card..�
Nurse Goodbody

But he was trying to get money out of an ATM. You would need a PIN to get money out on a credit card or a debit card at an ATM, right? At least that is the case with my credit card.”

“Some folks write their pins on the card. Not the smartest thing to do. But then who anticipates a catastrophe. Plus... week pins are no harder to break than weak passwords.”

“yes if he was trying to use them at an ATM he would have to use a pin...I would agree with MarkO that however he got the codes, was not a pleasant situation.”

“The trouble with treating criminals instead of locking them up forever was shown when they let Casanova Frankenstein out of the prison for the criminally insane, on the advice of 1) his phycholigist who he was bonking, and 2) Captain Amazing, who just wanted a competent villain to fight to revive his endorsement business.

As soon as he got out, he used the knowledge he had gained in the slammer to build a psychofrakulator! and could have destroyed the whole world.

So put them in the shrink ward if you want, but never ever let them out.”

“Someone held captive could be convinced to give up the PI number.”

“idaho - I don't know about the others, but I think the case for treatment didn't mean there wouldn't also be punishment.”

“Just for the record, I have no problem with capital punishment, and would pull the switch with no hesitation in a case like this. I am just abhorred with a mind that would conceive and carry out such plans.”

“A death for a death, or how about death for all crimes??”

“I have no problem with capital punishment in a case like this where there is no doubt of his crimes. It's the cases with even a smidgen of doubt where I don't think it's the right punishment. In those cases, there is always a very slight chance you've got the wrong guy.”

“Move to China if that's what ya like........or Malaysia.

What Creek Dancer said.
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“Hey -- I don't argue with those POVs.. I just offered mine.

I think one of our big problems in the US is that we think prison life is somehow a punishment and/or deterrent.”

“How About A Police State?
�Move to China if that's what ya like........or Malaysia.

Or Texas!”

“I understood he abducted her on Wednesday and killed her on Friday.

That would be a long time to extract something like a PIN. In fact, I would imagine she would give it up first trying to buy her way out.

What a sick bastard.”

“cases like OJ Simpson should not be death sentence since the evidence wasn't overwhelming. Cases like this POS we have now is pretty cut and dry if the blood on teh seatbelt section is hers and the section is a match for his van, along with any evidence found in the van.”

“Ditto what hyway said, but still, I can't reconcile it with my faith. But I do recognize the Constitutionality of it.”

“We all deserve due process, regardless of the evidence. The right to be tried by a jury of your peers is one of the key, if not the key, elements that makes this country great.
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“I don't understand this concept of the death penalty reconciling with someone's faith, unless you are referring to a non-christian faith. The bible never says capital punishment is wrong. The closest it comes is when Jesus says "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." That was Jesus trying to walk the line between mosaic law and roman law. He never said capital punishment was wrong, or that sinners shouldn't cast the 2nd stone.”

“once again, due process is for governments to punish people who breaks a law. It isn't for me to decide what I think of the POS.”

“Let me get out my crystal ball a minute.

This is going to turn into a federal case. He is going to be tried and convicted of murdering SEVERAL people over the course of 5-10 years, and the jury is going to find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. He will then be sentenced to death in the state of Georgia, which is by lethal injection.”

“Hyway, I think you are right in part, wrong in part.

I do believe he was drawing a distinction, but what I got out of His statement was "I am not saying it is wrong, but proceed only if you feel you are "pure" enough to do it".

I don't think I will ever be pure enough to agree someone needs to be killed (for any reason).

Again, I can't reconcile it with my Faith.

Let me cleary state that I am not saying Capital Punishment is wrong under our system, the Constitution clearly provides for it. It is that I would prefer we didn't have it.
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“wait, isn't it painful to be stuck with a needle? we can't do that to this guy.”

“The idea of humanely killing someone against their will is a laugh.”

“Bro, I am fluent in how the Supreme Court has viewed "cruel and unusual". We need to think back to how prisoners were treated for centuries in England.

That Amendment is there for a reason and I think the Supreme Court has done a good job at analyzing it over the 50 years.

Lethal injection will be reviewed however, but it not the pin prick that is in question. It is the morbid manner of slow death if the pain killer doesn't work that is in question.

If we have to kill people, do we get "extra" bonus "feel good" points for torturing them to death?

I sure as hell can't reconcile that with my Faith.”

“Precisely, RM.”

“and the only thing that the US Supreme court is arguing right now is in regard to whether it is humane for the "victim" to twitch a little before he/she dies.”

“and chili, I totally respect your position.”

“If I had my druthers, we'd go back to either the guillotine or public hangings on court square on Saturdays.”

“�and the only thing that the US Supreme court is arguing right now is in regard to whether it is humane for the "victim" to twitch a little before he/she dies.�
TownDawg
2:24:23 PM
1/10/08

I am calling bull#&%!$ on that. I think the issue is much more complex.”

“Chili - To be honest, I'm angry. I do know based on the news report I heard that the argument has to do with 1) achieving a quick death using a complicated mixture of several chemicals, or 2) a slower (and hard to watch) death using a humongous dose of one chemical.
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“And you are calling that "viewing a twitch".

TD, with all due respect, I believe the issue is deeper than whether lethal injection makes poor spectator sport.”

“chili, I am not up on the twitching details, but is it worse than having a splitting head ache from reading some of these posts?”

“I shouldn't have made light of it, and apologize. The vigilante in me is coming out.

If it had been my daughter I would have already been arrested for trying to kill the SOB.
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“TD, hyway,

I think this statement more accurately describes the issue the Supreme Court will decide...

"The argument against the three-drug protocol is that if the initial anesthetic does not take hold, a third drug that stops the heart can cause excruciating pain. The second drug, meanwhile, paralyzes the prisoner, rendering him unable to express his discomfort."

That folks, is not a mere twitch.”

“hyway, no, sometimes this place is worse than death...


but then again, I am not strapped in where I can push the "power off" button...

which leads me to believe...we are all gluttons for at least some level of punishment”

“Thanks brother. You know I love you.

Hey, hate to run off, but I got some customer issues to resolve right now. TTYL.”

“The issue of reconciling something with your faith is a personal decision. I was asked my personal opinion. I gave it. Chili gave his. Hyway gave his. I will not challenge hyways opinion and in turn I respectfully request those of who find the find penalty on conflict with our faith be allowed to do so without question as well. Thank you.”

“I think once you pass the question of Constitutionality, ramblinrev, personal opinions and beliefs are all that's left.

If an overwhelming number of people in my state felt the way I did, this state would not have capital punishment.
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“If an overwhelming number of people in my state felt the way I did, this state would have capital punishment.”
chili
2:45:29 PM
1/10/08

is that what you meant... or did you mean would not.... I am confused.

I agree Chili, which is why I gave my answer as my own own personal belief. I completely accept the rule of law in that area. There is no question the duly recognized government process has the authority to invoke the death penalty. I happen to think authority and the right to implement that authority are not always the same.”

“edited it, rr”

“As far as i understood it, he cut a deal to avoid death penalty in return for showing the location of the body.
It would be the trials in other states that could result in the death penalty.”

“The chances of this remaining a state case is virtually nil. The Feds will be on this very shortly if they are not already. Kidnapping is a fed offense. Further, according to a CNN.com the state DA did not know of the deal until after the body was discovered. That deal sounds like the limited warranty on a cheap piece of merchandise. It makes good type... but is pretty much worthless.”

“You can bet on one thing....if they convict him of the Florida murder...they won't hesitate to fry him.”

“rev, I was actually asking Chili why his faith makes you against capital punishment? I have no problem with your own personal value system putting you against capital punishment. when you say your faith, are you talking about your religious belief or something else? When most people say "my faith" they are talking about their religion, but its possible you meant faith in some other system outside of religion.
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