Obama for President 2008

“I love you, Saud!

I love you, too, pencildick!”

“OOOOOOOOOOOOO..I misspelled that..

Democraps”

“Mister Nice Guy is back.....”

“Saudi and their output of Wahabii Madrassas is our enemy. They have built thousands of large madrassas in rural Pakistan. We should have let Sadaam H. take Saudi right after they took Kuwait, like he was expecting we would do, and after he wiped out the Wahabii based government, then take out Sadaam.”

“mArKo is a Hillary! boy.”

“and after he wiped out the Wahabii based government, then take out Sadaam.�
idaho bob
4:54:42 PM
2/25/08

oh i love that stuff...sushi just isn't the same with out it”

“Bone a lobbyist for freedom!!!

"After I took the Viagra, the ole boy just kinda went like this, and then, well, the REAL deal making went on, if you know what I mean..."

”

“John McCock?”

“Real cool thing to say about somebody who sacrificed so much for you MarkO.”

“The K-Street Kassanova - John McCain

McCain is 71? OMG, we should be picking out this guy's coffin, not voting him for president.”

“Classy liberals...”

“The right is supporting Nader to not only take votes from the Crats, but to make MyCane look younger alzo.

Here we go again- a vote against MyCane is vote against war heros and POWs.
last edited: 2/26/08 7:32:50 AM”

“"Real cool thing to say about somebody who sacrificed so much for you MarkO.�
Sarge
8:00:13 AM
2/26/08

Shove it, Sarge.

McCain sacrificed for Michelin, etal in a failed attempt block independence.
He went where he was sent and did what he was ordered to do.
Nice goin', John.”

“Unbelieveable. You guys getting this? MarkO's true colors are showing.

Wowza. That's all I can say. Just wowza.

For those interested (from Wikipedia)...

On October 26, 1967, McCain was flying as part of a 20-plane attack against a thermal power plant in central Hanoi, a heavily defended target area that had almost always been off-limits to U.S. raids.[47][48][45] McCain's A-4 Skyhawk had its wing blown off by a Soviet-made SA-2 anti-aircraft missile[48] while pulling up after dropping its bombs.[49][50] McCain fractured both arms and a leg in being hit and ejecting from his plane[51] as it went into a vertical inverted spin.[52] He nearly drowned after he parachuted into Truc Bach Lake in Hanoi.[47] After he regained consciousness, a mob gathered around, spat on him, kicked him, and stripped him of his clothes.[52] Others crushed his shoulder with the butt of a rifle and bayoneted him in his left foot and abdominal area; he was then transported to Hanoi's main Hoa Loa Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton" by American POWs.[52][53]

Although McCain was badly wounded, his captors refused to give him medical care unless he gave them military information; they beat and interrogated him, but McCain only offered his name, rank, serial number, and date of birth.[52] Soon thinking he was near death, McCain said he would give them more information if taken to the hospital, hoping he could then put them off once he was treated.[54] A prison doctor came and said it was too late, as McCain was about to die anyway.[52] Only when the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a top admiral did they give him medical care[52] and announce his capture. At this point, two days after McCain's plane went down, that event and his status as a POW made the front pages of The New York Times[40] and The Washington Post.[55] Interrogation and beatings resumed in the hospital; McCain gave his ship's name, squadron's name, and the attack's intended target.[56] Further coerced to give the names of his squadron members, he supplied the names of the Green Bay Packers' offensive line.[57][56]

McCain spent six weeks in the Hoa Loa hospital, receiving marginal care.[47] He was interviewed by a French television reporter whose report was carried on CBS, and was observed by a variety of North Vietnamese, including the famous General Vo Nguyen Giap.[52] Many of the North Vietnamese observers assumed that he must be part of America's political-military-economic elite.[52] Now having lost 50 pounds, in a chest cast, and with his hair turned white,[47] McCain was sent to a prisoner-of-war camp on the outskirts of Hanoi nicknamed "the Plantation"[58] in December 1967, into a cell with two other Americans who did not expect him to live a week (one was Bud Day, a future Medal of Honor recipient); they nursed McCain and kept him alive.[59] In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, where he would remain for two years.[52] In July 1968, McCain's father was named Commander-in-Chief, Pacific Command (CINCPAC), stationed in Honolulu and commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater.[5] McCain was immediately offered a chance to return home early:[47] the North Vietnamese wanted a worldwide propaganda coup by appearing merciful, and also wanted to show other POWs that elites like McCain were willing to be treated preferentially.[52] McCain turned down the offer of repatriation, due to the Code of Conduct principle of "first in, first out": he would only accept the offer if every man taken in before him was released as well.[60] McCain's refusal to be released was even remarked upon by North Vietnamese senior negotiator Le Duc Tho to U.S. envoy Averell Harriman during the ongoing Paris Peace Talks.[61]

In August of 1968, a program of vigorous torture methods began on McCain, using rope bindings into painful positions, and beatings every two hours, at the same time as he was suffering from dysentery.[52][47] Teeth and bones were broken again, as was McCain's spirit; the beginning of a suicide attempt was stopped by guards.[47] After four days of this, McCain signed and taped[62] an anti-American propaganda "confession" that said he was a "black criminal" and an "air pirate",[47] although he used stilted Communist jargon and ungrammatical language to signal that the statement was forced.[57] He felt then and always that he had dishonored his country, his family, his comrades and himself by his statement,[63] but as he would later write, "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine."[52] His injuries to this day have left him incapable of raising his arms above his head.[14] Two weeks later his captors tried to force him to sign a second statement, and this time, his will to resist restored, he refused.[52] He received two to three beatings per week because of his continued refusal.[64] Other American POWs were similarly tortured and maltreated in order to extract "confessions",[52] with many enduring even worse treatment than McCain.[65] However, on one occasion, a guard surreptitiously loosened McCain's painful rope bindings for a night; when months later the guard later saw McCain on Christmas Day, he stood next to McCain and silently drew a cross in the dirt with his foot[66] (decades later, McCain would relate this Good Samaritan story during his presidential campaigns, as a testament to faith and humanity[67][68]). On Christmas Eve 1968, a church service for the POWs was staged for photographers and film cameras; McCain defied North Vietnamese instructions to be quiet, speaking out details of his treatment then shouting "Fu-u-u-u-ck you, you son of a #&%!$!" and giving the finger whenever a camera was pointed at him.[69] McCain refused to meet with various anti-war peace groups coming to Hanoi, such as those led by David Dellinger, Tom Hayden, and Rennie Davis, not wanting to give either them or the North Vietnamese a propaganda victory based on his connection to his father.[52]

In May 1969, U.S. Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird began publicly questioning North Vietnamese treatment of U.S. prisoners.[70] On June 5, 1969, a Radio Hanoi broadcast denied any mistreatment, and excerpted from McCain's forced "confession" of a year before to this effect.[70][71] In October 1969, treatment of McCain and the other POWs suddenly improved, after a badly beaten and weakened POW who had been released that summer disclosed to the world press the conditions to which they were being subjected[52] and the National League of Families of American Prisoners and Missing in Southeast Asia, including McCain's brother Joe, heightened awareness of the POWs' plight.[72] In December 1969, McCain was transferred back to the Hoa Loa "Hanoi Hilton";[52] his solitary confinement ended in March 1970.[52] McCain continued to refuse to see anti-war groups or journalists sympathetic to the North Vietnamese regime;[52] to one visitor who did speak with him, McCain later wrote, "I told him I had no remorse about what I did, and that I would do it over again if the same opportunity presented itself."[52] McCain and other prisoners were moved around to different camps at times, but conditions over the next several years were generally more tolerable than they had been before.[52] Back at the "Hanoi Hilton" from November 1971 onward,[52] McCain and the other POWs cheered the intense, Hanoi-focused, B-52-led U.S. "Christmas Bombing" campaign of December 1972 � whose explosions lit the night sky and shook the walls of the camp, and whose daily orders were issued by McCain's father, knowing his son was in the vicinity � as a forceful measure to force North Vietnam to terms.[52][73]

Altogether, McCain was held as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam for five and a half years. The Paris Peace Accords were signed on January 27, 1973, ending direct U.S. involvement in the war, but the Operation Homecoming arrangements for POWs took longer; McCain was finally released from captivity on March 15, 1973,[74] having been a POW for almost an extra five years due to his refusal to accept the out-of-sequence repatriation offer.[75]”

“MarkO has no respect for that kind of sacrifice, even ridiculing him for it. Wow.”

“Hey now, Mark knows all about sacrifice. After all, he shoveled $hit in the national guard.”

“Wake up Sarge, that war was for the sake of foreign commmercial interests and to block independence for which the Vietnamese fought since 1945.

McCain did indeed sacrifice and do his job.
Again..........way to go, John!
His suffering courage was truely remarkable.

Running the U.S. in the 21st Century is a job for someone else............time for Johnny to retire.”

“HearHEREhear? Old man MyCane should hobble on down the Calendar Lane.
last edited: 2/26/08 8:18:49 AM”

“"Running the U.S. in the 21st Century is a job for someone else............time for Johnny to retire.”

So not only do you hate the troops you hate the elderly too? [joking]

Just because someone is a vet or has sacrificed does not mean they are exempt from criticism or ridicule for that matter. Case in point...John sKerry. Right?”

“Yeah, I mean, no one has questioned his military record. Only his voting record, contributions record, fidelity record...”

“Whoa! We're comparing John Kerry to John McCain?

LOL. Good one!”

“Close your eyes and imagine what McCain went through for this country to protect it's military secrets and to do the right thing. Read the wikipedia excerpt from above if you need help.

Then (keeping your eyes closed you peeker) envision John Kerry trying to get himself purple hearts for his (self-inflicted) "wounds" - then later throwing somebody else's medals over the wall at the capital.

Yeah, ... LOL!


Same war. Two very different men.
last edited: 2/26/08 9:28:03 AM”

““Yeah, I mean, no one has questioned his military record. Only his voting record, contributions record, fidelity record...”
Rosey

What Rosey said.

"envision John Kerry trying to get himself purple hearts for his (self-inflicted) "wounds" -"

Where did you hear that, from The Swiftboat Liars???”

“�John McCock?�

MarkO
9:51:42 AM
2/26/08

Again, real cool thing to say about the man who sacrificed like he has.”

“Yeah MarkO! Everyone is lying about his cowardice EXCEPT Kerry. Makes a lot of sense.

Kerry is a coward. How can you doubt that for a second?

”

“"Kerry is a coward. How can you doubt that for a second?"

Because just about everything from you is bull schitt.”

“Come on Sarge, you've even said on here multiple times that you don't like McCain as a candidate.

What, he's the only one standing and so you rush to his side? What a loyalist.”

“I don't like him as a candidate, so I'm not supposed to defend what he's done for the country?

Wow dude. I really wonder where you're coming from ... a lot.”

“That's OK Sarge. I don't ever wonder where you are coming from. You are very transparent.”

““Come on Sarge, you've even said on here multiple times that you don't like McCain as a candidate.

What, he's the only one standing and so you rush to his side? What a loyalist.”
roseymonster
1:29:53 PM
2/26/08

Welcome to how presidential elections are supposed to work. I am sure your system of just appointing as president whoever roseymonster wants has a few quirks in it to.”

“I'm quite confident roseymonster, based on personal assumptions you've made about me, my thoughts, my beliefs, my personal life, that your conclusion that I'm "very transparent" is all in your very little head.”

“Sarge, my ability to build a profile isn't built on assumptions -- you lay it all out here for us to read. You're not a very complicated person.”

“Then why are so wrong so often?

I don't deny I lay it all out there. But you certainly haven't figured out much of it at all. That I promise you. You're honestly (I'm not just saying this) one of the dumbest people I converse with on a somewhat regular basis.
last edited: 2/26/08 11:03:03 AM”

“Amen, Brother Rosemont!”

“Sarge, your opinion is of zero worth to me. Why do you think it is?

Oh, I forgot, you're the great man of mystery. 40 y.o. white, christian conservative mama's boy with a bad shag carpet living room who lives out superiority fantasies on a fuggin backpacking website. Yeah, you're one TOUGH nut to crack.”

“40 year old - oooooo, hurt me!

white - probably think that's an insult too! LOL

Christian - again, you really hurt me with that.

conservative - Wow! You figured that out all by yourself? Amazing!

mama's boy - Well, my mom, and anybody else who knows me would strongly disagree with you.

bad shag carpet living room - considering I don't have ANY shag carpet in my house, ... you're demonstrating your stupidity once again

lives out superiority fantasies on a fuggin backpacking website - sounds like you're projecting. I am very confident in who I am. If you want to read that differently, that's on you. I know it's hard for you to comprehend there are people in this word that are far superior to you, but it's true. Nice to meet you. Don't be so jealous you poor thing.”

“roseymonster is used to males playing a more subdued, inferior role ... LOL”

“LOL. Thanks for the laugh, Sarge.”

“You're welcome. Now give me my mirror back before you crack it.”

“Come on people! I want to hear why Obama is the one to vote for, not why you don't someone else. So far about all anyone but Violin has said is [paraphrasing] "He's not some white old guy.".”

“Thats all they have”

“LOL!”

“Oh, I forgot, you're the great man of mystery. 40 y.o. white, christian conservative mama's boy with a bad shag carpet living room who lives out superiority fantasies on a fuggin backpacking website. Yeah, you're one TOUGH nut to crack. - roseymonster

So, I rarely mention this site to my wife, but this was just too funny. So I ask her, "Do you think I'm a mama's boy?". She cracked up! When she was done and said something about being far from it, she asked me if somebody said I was. I was like "yeah, this idiot online thinks I'm 'transparent', and a 'mama's boy'.". She laughed again (this time AT you), then asked if it was the backpacking website. Then she asked if I said something to make you think that, and I was like "no, that's the point, this guy thinks he knows all this stuff" ... and she finished the sentence ... "but he has no clue."

LOL!

Dude, I love my mom and we get along great, but your sense of reality is funny!!

roseymonster, libbies like you just can't see that some men in this world can actually be self-confident, self-sufficient MEN, and that doesn't mean when they talk about themselves they're doing it for any kind of validation. I don't need my momma to get along mentally or otherwise in this world, aside from her giving birth to me. She's done a lot for me over the years ... when I was a boy. Yes, some MEN (is that a dirty word to you) actually are self-reliant, non-needy, confident beings. I know you want men and women to become androgynous, but you're fantasy just isn't happening in every part of the globe.

Transparent? Yes, for those who can see. XL has said it several times, and he's actually talked to me several times. I am who I say I am. I'm not the punk conservative fantasy "momma's boy" you want me to be. I've told you before, your sense of reality is just wrong - I know that for a fact. The more you espouse your ideas the sillier you come across. You have "no clue".”

“It's fun watching Sarge dance...

Like I said earlier, you tell your own story. I don't have to say a word.
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“roseymonster, I sure would not want to meet you on the trail upset....I would like to go skinny dippin though..”

“Fridge, WHAT???!!! PERV!!! Hey man, freeballin' is the ONLY way to swim in a mtn. lake, IMHO.

Actually, it really takes A LOT to get me bent outta shape. People have told me I should be in emergency services because I am always so calm and collected when other people are freaking out.
last edited: 2/26/08 3:48:52 PM”

“so if we went skinny dippin and I had trouble breathing....you could take your time and let me die or take your time getting me so H2o? LMAO

okay ...let me have it..i know it's comming... go ahead ROSEY”