Obama for President 2008

“In 2006 Obama took a trip to Kenya and voiced his support for his fellow tribesman and political ally, Odinga.

Obama also directly attacked the sitting Kenyan leadership (Kibaki) calling them �corrupt� (Kenya was one of the most stable places in Africa).

Odinga is the cat that ran on the socialist democrat ticket in Kenya and lost to sitting president Kibaki.”

“LOL - Prosecutor totally owns Tilt, and Tilt pretends like nothing happened. Classic.”

“Stalin wasn't a homegrown terrorist.”

“No, he was a decorated veteran from the first Gulf War. The one run under UN auspices by Bushie senior.

He became a whack job after Clinton's handling of a domestic weapons arrest involving the use of Tanks against unconvicted, therefore "presumed innocent" civilians.

A new spin on the Vietnam slogan of "better dead than red", the children of Waco were better "dead than in bed" with David Koresh.”

“So you're one of those.”

“So you're one of those. - Tilt

Anyone else think it's a real possibility that Tilt may eventually turn into a home-grown terrorist? Anybody filled with such hate and rage is by definition off his rocker.
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“Look in the mirror, Mutt.”

“Kenya is corrupt Minish. Kibaki came to power promising to clean up Kenyan politics and hasn't - that's where the discontent comes from.”

“Mutt - as opposed with a gun-obsessed man hiding in his house worrying that the government is trying to enslave him you mean?”

“Yes, Y2, I'd feel much less threatened by a guy hiding in his house out of paranoia than someone out in public who seethes with hatred like Tilt.
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“�Kenya is corrupt Minish. Kibaki came to power promising to clean up Kenyan politics and hasn't - that's where the discontent comes from.�
Y2
9:23:30 AM
3/05/08

The discontent comes from the same place all political discontent comes from.”

“oh I get it - if you're actively oppose the conservative agenda you seethe with hatred - ok then.”

“Obama is just on the wrong side.”

“I think you're onto something, Tilt.

The dude has frequent rants and visits Glock Talk(I can just imagine the kind of weenies that sort of site attracts).

(do ya suppose he's fondling that heater right now?)`”

“"The discontent comes from the same place all political discontent comes from."

This should be good.”

“if you're actively oppose the conservative agenda you seethe with hatred - Y2

Y2, You actively oppose the conservative agenda, yet you don't seethe with hatred. Don't make a strawman here.

Tilt has a long history of expressing hatred here. Like I've said before, he's the only person I truly consider a scumbag that posts on Trailtalk.”

“"The discontent comes from the same place all political discontent comes from."

This should be good.�
MarkO
9:38:19 AM
3/05/08

It comes from not having "your man" running the show. It's a problem that both sides have MarkO. I just hope it never gets to the level it has in Kenya.”

“I can just imagine the kind of weenies that sort of site attracts).

(do ya suppose he's fondling that heater right now?)`”
MarkO
9:34:28 AM
3/05/08

Wow, you're really lobbing softballs now.

It's funny that most "weenies" who carry guns and support the constitutional right to do so are in the military or are peace officers--not very "weenie" professions. But I suppose it's easy to call someone a "weenie" under the blanket of anonymity that the internet affords. That tactic makes me wonder who the real weenie is.

Will we ever see the day when the tired, disproved "weenie" argument is replaced by one that is actually defensible?”

“In the case of Kenya it comes from a "stolen" election.

There was similar discontent in Ukraine after their last election.

It seems that the man in power "stole" the election and "the people" knew better and raised hell.........successfully.”

“Not being as successful in Kenya.”

“SLU and NRA, both have gone to the edge today.”

“Says Stickman as he fondles his piece........

Aw, am I stomping on your constitutional rights by ridiculing the "manhood" of gun-fondlers?

Guys gettin' their ass all up in the air over someone making fun of the "gun culture" makes me wonder who the real "weenies" are.

"........most "weenies" who carry guns and support the constitutional right to do so are in the military or are peace officers--"

I would guess that there are a lot more weapons in the hands of civilians than there are cops and military personnel.

What, aren't there some 200,000,000 weapons in the hands of the public?

Happiness is a warm gun...........yes it is
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“This should be good. Marko, you selling tickets to this tag team match?”

“By golly, there's an idea, Slaboard.”

“





”

“Says Stickman as he fondles his piece........

Aw, am I stomping on your constitutional rights by ridiculing the "manhood" of gun-fondlers?
MarkO
10:04:15 AM
3/05/08

I can't argue with such non-logic. Guns scare you, so you make fun of those who aren't scared of guns by questioning their manhood. Which amendment is next? You going to reveal your fear of free speech and ridicule anyone who has a newspaper subscription? Maybe women's suffrage...you're afraid of women with ready access to voting machines?”

“Fourumps? Who the youngster?
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“
� � � Some people live in fear and feel they must carry guns.

”

“Nothing wrong with guns, but like over drinking, over eating, or any other thing that becomes an obsession as has the NRA taken it into any and every thing that has nothing to do with the ownership of guns. Global Warmers are bad, but still aren't as bad NRAers.

Yes , I own and will own guns, but you won't catch me waiving them around in a great Hoopla.
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“LOL reading that reminded me I just heard a libbie on the news complain about the (direct quote here)"WEEpulicans who crossed the line to vote in Dem Elections>"

LOL...Libbie logic, its okay if THEY do it..but BAD if someone else does it.

Look at how they respond on these threads.”

“"Which amendment is next? You going to reveal your fear of free speech and ridicule anyone who has a newspaper subscription?"
Stickman

Ha ha, what a weener!!

So my ridicule of the gun-obsessed is a threat to the second amendment??

I'm not afraid of guns, Barney.
I was an M-60 gunner for a couple of years and a cracking-good gunner at that.

Oh yeah, I have a newspaper subscription...............and I no longer own guns......................or do I??
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“There's a big difference between believing it's okay for the government to have guns (I assume you were a gunner in the Army??), as compared to believing citizens should have them.”

“I was a gunner in the Army infantry, not the Militia Hooliguns.

I believe the citizens have a right to own weapons..............conditionally.”

“Hey---NRA, illegal drugs are easier than guns to get , what you gona do about this kinda chit.”

“Oh, 'cos you were originally making it sound as if you were not making a threat against the 2nd amendment. Now you're clarifying, and saying you would threaten it for some people. See, big difference.”

“Sarge, how is ridiculing the gun-obsessed a threat to any part of the U.S. Constitution?

I can understand that it puts a burr in the saddle of some people..............too bad.

The U.S. Constitution will survive the "depredations" of my comedic jabs at the gun-obsessed.

"........making a threat against the 2nd amendment."
"......Now you're clarifying, and saying you would threaten it for some people."
Sarge

Hey, Bright Boy!!!

Ownership of weapons is conditional whether I believe it's a good idea or not.

And please stop you're lying about "making a threat to the second amendment".

You're such a liar........day in and day out.......lies-lies-lies.”

“Some folks are all about the Hoopla.”

“Sarge, how is ridiculing the gun-obsessed a threat to any part of the U.S. Constitution?

Back up. I didn't say that. Those were your words.

I'm saying your argument that you are "cool" with the 2nd Amendment, because you played with guns in the Army, is faulty. It would make more logical sense to say you're "cool" with the 2nd Amendment because you play with guns as a civilian, bright boy.”

“�Oh, 'cos you were originally making it sound as if you were not making a threat against the 2nd amendment. Now you're clarifying, and saying you would threaten it for some people. See, big difference.�
Sarge
2:15:31 PM
3/05/08

Your own words, Dude.”

“Yes THOSE are my words. Not "how is ridiculing the gun-obsessed a threat" ... dude.

You would, as you admit, threaten removing the right of some people to own guns, as granted to them by the 2nd Amendment. True or false? ... True. That's what I said. I didn't say anything about ridiculing people.

Nevertheless, that wasn't even my point. My point was about your argument that you support the 2nd amendment is backed up by the fact you played with guns in the Army.
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“My service as a machine gunner was to say that I am not AFRAID OF GUNS.

I simply have no use for them now and I laugh at the gun-obsessed.”

“"I believe the citizens have a right to own weapons..............conditionally.�
MarkO

Is this what you are talking about, Sarge?

"You would, as you admit, threaten removing the right of some people to own guns, as granted to them by the 2nd Amendment. True or false? ... True."
Sarge

How do you get that pack of lies from what I said?

Sensible weapons policy should and DOES demand conditions...........like, criminal back ground and mental illness history.

I'm not "removing" anyone's rights, so stop your lying.”

“It's funny when people are obsessed, huh MarkO?”

“It's pathetic(not funny) when you are obsessed with telling lies, Sarge.”

“I'm not "removing" anyone's rights, so stop your lying. - MarkO

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Ownership of weapons is conditional whether I believe it's a good idea or not. - MarkO

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Oh, ... and "whether you believe it's a good idea, or not"????

You mean you might consider that the 2nd Amendment is a BAD idea?

Wowza!”

“Ha Ha!

mArKo has been proven to make lies on TT by me.

Is the National Guard the "Army"?
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“Is the Army National Guard the "Army"?�

No, why? It's a different branch of the military.”

“It's a good question for mArKo, since he claims to have been in the "Army".”

“I know the answer too that ?

Can you tell me what PREZ was in office at the start of the NG?

and Tell me who was the first man inducted in the NG?
and tell me what the patch symbol lookes like for the first NG UNIT ?

I am a Military war monger...thats what they called me when I returned back home hurt and was put on a Color Guard in New York City. I was the only RANGER (Fort Hamiliton Brooklyn NY). We did a Macy's Day parade and all those FREE Americans were setting in the main throughfare of the Parade calling us War Mongers. We were carrying the Army colors with the American Flag along with 2 O3 Springfields.

Man I had anger running through my veins.

what they missed was all those Army battle Streamers was battles fought for there freedom to do exactly what they could do. Set and Protest.

I am a VET an Damn proud of it and I will never pull another VET down to prove a point no matter who is wrong or right. We are all Brothers and I will never bring a brother Down. NO ONE LEFT ALONE.

Yea that's right.....go ahead and slam it to me....”

“Some people live in fear and feel they must carry guns.
Tilt
12:09:28 PM
3/05/08

I'll agree with you Tilt (and also you, Salebored), but a person can't paint with a broad brush and say that everyone who carries a gun does so out of fear.”