Obama for President 2008

“I'm not afraid of guns, Barney.
MarkO
12:44:44 PM
3/05/08

And finally, we see that MarkO has nothing left to fall back on when confronted with his hoplophobia, having to result to attempting to insult me (and not even doing that sucessfully) by referring to Barney Fife although I am neither a city policeman, deputy sheriff, or highway patrolman.

Marko would be an interesting case study for Freud and his theory of the fear of weapons.


Anyway, we've veered way off course. Maybe Violin, Y2, or Tilt could present challenging arguments in the gun thread, and MarkO could resume his more natural position in the cheering section.


Let's talk about Obama and his strategy for dealing with Tuesday's defeats, and the indication that he is going to take the gloves off. Shrillary has returned to her roots in the gutter and apparently Obama has decided that he's left with no choice but to sling the mud back at her. It should make things more interesting than they already are.”

“The comparison I draw is this: � Two people (civilians, non-hunting, similar abilities, circumstances) are going out into the woods (or anywhere else, I guess). � One decides to carry and the other does not. � Which one would appear to be more concerned for his safety? �

The unarmed one ---- ?


You see, this is what comes to mind whenever some testosterone-fueled statement regarding "fear of guns" invariably pops out. � It does make me wonder if carrying a weapon (or talking about it) makes some guys feel like more of a man. � It appears to make them think that those who don't are somehow less. � Where does all that come from? � The O.K. Corral?

I don't see where it emerged on this thread; quite a few people here are automatically and summarily excised, LOL


The "Barney" thing.... I'll leave that for you and Marko to hash out, assuming he wasn't talking about a purple dinosaur.

The "Shrillary" routine..... No quality points there. � What would Bill Buckley say?

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“People who get permits to carry conceal firearms reduce the violent crime rate for everybody. Why would anyone care one twit why the person got the permit when everyone benefits from a lower crime rate.”

“Tilt - where on God's green earth do you get your ideas? It's like every angle, of every thought of yours, is a cheap stereotyped version of itself.”

“Clinton and Obama are the worst kind of scum.

Anyone who votes for either of them has to be stupid beyond description.

If you disagree with this, you are a fool.”

“Billy --- Rush says you owe him a BJ and he wants it NOW -------


Had a great Idea for an Obama t-shirt. � Instead of the ubiquitous


� � � � � YES
� � � � � WE CAN


It should now read


� � � � � NOT
� � � � � SO FAST

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“"MarkO has nothing left to fall back on when confronted with his hoplophobia,"

I had to look that one up, Stick.

I have no fear of weapons, you sorry little puss bucket.
I simply have no use for them.......my pistol works just fine.

So you're not a cop?
Ooops!

Well, my "attempt to insult you" seems to have worked. You come back sputtering fantasy about "fear of weapons".

You started this pissin' match after I made fun of the gun obsessed.
You popped up like somebody rung your bell.

Pavlov, anyone?
last edited: 3/06/08 5:47:32 AM”

“MarkO, you have no use for guns. That means you're playing the lottery. Chances are you'll never be the victim of a violent home invasion, but the chance is there, whether you'd admit to the truth or not. It's hardly paranoid to prepare for a possible disaster. It's no different than keeping extra food and water on hand in case of a weather disaster, or keeping insurance on the house or car.

But then rationality is hardly your strong point, is it. MarkO-Dumb!”

“Another gun-fondler checks his chamber.

It's just a matter of time before you take your precious to work and exorcise the demons, eh Mutt?”

“I wear a tinfoil hat all the time, because I know aliens will get me way before the libbies can find me. so , I don't need any bullets for my gun.”

“Funny, you cry when people (rightly IMO) call you a hoplophobe, saying it's a fantasy. Yet you spout this fantasy of gun-owners being obsessed, barrel stroking nutcases. Nice consistency (MarkO-Dumb!)”

“Guys Marky Mark has his WIFE to protect him. Imagine a guy breaking into his house ...Late at night...wifey will save him...while he crawls in the closet and gets in his SPONGEMAN outfit.”

“Whoop!!

There's another barrel-strokin' li'l dicky dickens.
XLax answers the bell!

I'm not afraid of weapons, Mutt. I got some use out of them for a while and have since moved on.

Why does the Mutt stroke his pistol/phallus?
Because he can't quite lick his balls.
(he's still workin' on that one)”

“�Narco-rebels say Venezuela aiding them, more help coming from Democrat president.

WASHINGTON � A laptop computer captured in the possession of a slain Colombian revolutionary provides tangible evidence Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is aiding the narco-rebels and that they see more help coming next year if Barack Obama becomes president.

The laptop was seized Saturday after a raid by Colombian government forces on commandos of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC. Some 23 rebels were killed in the raid, including Raul Reyes, their leader. The files on the computer provide details and context to what the Colombian government claims is Chavez's effort to subvert the U.S. ally.

Venezuela says the documents are lies. Obama's campaign has not commented on the allusions to a relationship between the Democratic presidential candidate and the Chavez-backed, drug lords of FARC.

The files reveal correspondence between the most prominent members and leaders of FARC:

Reyes, the FARC's foreign minister and public face; Manuel Marulanda, the rebels' 77-year-old supreme leader; Jorge Briceno, their much-feared field marshal; Ivan Marquez, the insurgents' apparent go-between with Chavez. Marquez is believed to live in Venezuela. Copies of 13 documents were sent to reporters yesterday by Colombia's national police chief, Gen. Oscar Naranjo. They suggest Chavez, seeking to raise the FARC's stature, is conspiring with Venezuela to topple Colombia's president, Alvaro Uribe.





In one note, Briceno discusses a desire to undermine Uribe by making him cede a safe haven to the rebels for talks on a prisoner swap.

"Uribe will become more isolated, together with his boss from the North," a clear reference to President Bush, whose government provides Colombia with some $600 million a year in military aid.

Writing two days before his death, Reyes tells his secretariat comrades that "the gringos," working through Ecuador's government, are interested "in talking to us on various issues."

"They say the new president of their country will be (Barack) Obama," noting that Obama rejects both the Bush administration's free trade agreement with Colombia and the current military aid program.

Reyes said the response he relayed is that the U.S. would have to publicly express that desire.

Another message, to Reyes from a lower-ranking commander and dated Feb. 16, includes mention of a possible purchase of 50 kilos � 110 pounds � of uranium.

Uribe's government has claimed that means the FARC was seeking to build a dirty bomb. But the message discusses a different motive: selling the uranium at a profit.�”

“Do you denounce Obama for invoking the Bible to decide U.S. law as you did Bush?”

“http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5700252&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

To get an idea of what this country may soon be in for, look what's hanging on the wall of the Obama campaign workers in this video. It's the flag of the miserable communist dictatorship Cuba, embellished with the face of Che Guevara.

As Fidel Castro's personal executioner, Guevara established himself as one of the most profoundly evil characters in modern history. The flag displayed by Obama's flunkies is no less sinister than a Nazi flag featuring Heinrich Himmler.”

“What does owning a gun have to do with needing it? You don't need to own a backpack. You might want to own a backpack so you can backpack. But there is no need. Guns are as much a recreation as a backpack is. and before you say that backpacks don't kill people, think about why airport security freaks out when they find an unattended backpack.”

“Perhaps because of what may be inside the backpack, not the backpack itself.

Folks I knew in Ireland 30-some years ago always said the fastest game on earth was "pass the parcel" in a Belfast pub.”

“"What does owning a gun have to do with needing it?"

I suspect in most cases it's more wanting it than actually needing it.

In some cases it may be wanted to satisfy a need.

Those who are seriously needy may be wanting.”

“It's fun watching the right freak out!”

“What about olympic biathlon athletes, MarkO? Paranoid barrel strokers? Girly men who need a phallus to feel like a man?”

“Way off, Mutt.

Those guys and women are serious athletes.

It's you guys who don't measure up that need it to cover your inadequacies.

Rock on, Rosey!”

“So you admit there's a legitimate sporting purpose for firearms ownership. And I agree. Shooting is fun. I really enjoy shooting my M4gery. It's fun as hell and is an excellent home defense carbine as well. But most of the time I stick to shooting my 10/22, which is much cheaper to run, yet still plenty-o-fun.
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“It's fun watching the right freak out! Rosey

Why do you pick on the Fright Wing?”

“Do you denounce Obama for invoking the Bible to decide U.S. law as you did Bush?”

“Yes , a muslim should use it no more or less than the idiots that wear it on their sleeve.”

“There's nothing to admit. Of course there are legitimate purposes for firearms.............and then there are the fondlers.”

“right on, Salebored!!”

“Obama is using his Christian religion to determine what U.S. law should be.

Who is going to speak up against that "outrage"?”

“nobody?

hypocrites!”

“the Fright Wig? � � cool.”

“ ”

“Hippo-crickets.”

“Awww. Nobody wants to play with Sarge. Wipe that big green booger off your nose first...”

“Nobody wants to demonstrate their hypocrisy.

You could see that coming a mile away.”

“the fright wig is going to flip ---”

“I think most libs on here are supporting Obama only because he is black.”

““Perhaps because of what may be inside the backpack, not the backpack itself.

Folks I knew in Ireland 30-some years ago always said the fastest game on earth was "pass the parcel" in a Belfast pub.”
Tilt
12:32:34 PM
3/06/08

A gun is nothing but a club without what may be inside it. What is your point?”

“"......and then I shot her, I gave her the gun............"”

“mArKo ever say which "Army" he claimed to have been in?
If not, why is he avoiding the question?
Lying AGAIN?”

“Stove, I think he said before he was a mountain soldier. If that's true, even if the guard, I won't be giving him slack.”

“mArKo still hiding from the question?”

“Think his wife took the priviledge away if he wants his time with "the guys" this weekend....(LOL)”

“Using tiltypoo logic, there appears to be a whole bunch of racists in Ohio. Why didn't they vote for Obama?”

“�I was a gunner in the Army infantry, not the Militia Hooliguns.

I believe the citizens have a right to own weapons..............conditionally.�
MarkO
2:53:24 PM
3/05/08”

“More bile in leaning pile.”

“I was just listening to a relatively well-balanced discussion of the pro's & con's of Obama as our next President. The one thing that his supporters didn't really address very well was his relatively minimal experience... after all, only 2 years as a Senator!

I'm interested in learning how you supporters respond to that issue when you're defending him as your candidate of choice?”