Obama for President 2008

“haha... now how ya gonna help me when your all the way in korea!”

“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABbBERyeOnk

Are you trying to deny that many white people aren't at least a little afraid when they see a group of young black men on the street? Really?”

“I don't blame any colors ,just the number, way too many people. Does that make me a populationist?hehe

It appears to me that the dems want to lose this prez election, how else could they be smart enough to make such a mess?hehe2
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“an explanation of the explanation of the explanation will follow”

“Well begin , don't do the Huffle shuffle.”

“that depends on what the meaning of the word "do" does”

“Do does say, the dem party is bankrupt of any ideas and can only identify with the two largest minorities in quest of their votes. If a reason for that vote could be found then more power, but remember, that other (R) party is totally bankrupt of ideas also, but have the ongoing babysitting job in the middle east to distract from the otherwise empty gas tank they have. Everyone knows , but just can't bring themselves to admit we have gone way to far in every direction on everything that concerns us, but retracting from that over achievement is impossible for the over inflated egos that are and will be the down fall of this civilization.

Men are a minority to the female so don't count in the above'a'jumbo.
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“Be consistent V. If the same thing were said about blacks by a white person everyone would be calling for their head. And yes I catagoriclly deny this fear of blacks you claim and it is anything but typical.”

“I think it is typical. Certainly can't prove it because no one will admit to it, but I believe it to be there.”

“Euphemistic guns blazing down the alley way swinging on a thread of nope.”

“Are you trying to deny that many white people aren't at least a little afraid when they see a group of young black men on the street? Really?”
Reverend Truth V Wicked
9:15:52 AM
3/22/08

Are you saying that a black person isn't afraid if they see a group of young black men on the street? I don't know the answer to this, but I suspect they should be since the amount of black on black crime is very close to the amount of black on white crime.”

“like chris rock said "i love black people, but..."”

“But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know, you know, there's a reaction that's been bred in our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that's just the nature of race in our society."

i will tell you what i will call it... refreshing. i know exactly what he is saying and appreciate it. he is characterizing an aspect of our culture that most politicians won't even acknowledge exist... you know... "There are white nig*ers. I've seen a lot of white nig*ers in my time. I'm going to use that word. We just need to work together to make our country a better country" (Virginia Sen. Robert Byrd)
last edited: 3/22/08 8:20:08 PM”

“yea, all blacks are like that

~rolls eyes~”

“what makes you say racism isn't a problem in our country?”

“Man, a few godmen say silly crap, as they're trained, and you all want to go back to the streets of Selma. Did KATRINA and AIDS both come from the same seminary laboratory.”

“we aren't talking about individuals anymore, are we? I thought we were talking in generalities now, "the typical white", etc.

Where I work we go to great links to try to get minority contractors. We send out 100's of solicitations. We have entire units who soul task is to walk minority businesses through the process of getting on our bid lists, assist them in creating their bids. We have "set aside" projects, terms like HUB "historically underutilized businesses", MBE "minority business enterprise", WBE "women business enterprise", DBE "disadvantaged business enterprise". We require successful bidders to hire a certain percentage minority subcontractors.

What the black community needs to do is toss out their idiot religeous leaders whose only care is how many people they have in their flock for business leaders who know how to turn a buck. There is no reason a black man can't be successful in America”

“soul task

was that a pun?

;-)”

“I actually meant sole, but it is a good pun lol.”

“Sorry crash, but someone who uses the word ni##er doesn't get to weigh in on racial issues. I've heard the word roll off your tongue too easily, too many times to even consider anything you have to say.”

“soul task- that is funny.

I used to be a foreman at a nuclear plant. After 3 years we had a major cut-back because we were way over budget. They asked me if I wanted a lay-off or to be busted back to a regular worker, so I took the bust back. Then they moved a black girl from day shift to night shift to take my place AND they wanted me to train her! I was pi$$ed!
I went to the upper management and no one would give me a direct answer. They kept passing the buck, sending me from office to office. I finally asked for a transfer to another plant, which they did with-in 2 weeks.
After I left, a few days later I happened to see one of the supervisors at a grocery store. We talked for a while and he told me the whole story. They needed a black foreman and a female foreman and she happened to be both, but they were not allowed to come out and say it that way. I was picked basically by the flip of a coin.”

“I guess youll just have to ignore me, then, nigal
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“so you think that the past (and shameful) effects of wrongful discrimination in our society have been eliminated and that racism is no longer a problem? are saying the the terrible effects of Jim Crow and this country's generation-spanning legacy of civil inequality have been wiped clean in less than one generation?”

“also, context is everything”

“I used to be a foreman at a nuclear plant.


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“LOL I knew that was coming!”

““I guess youll just have to ignore me, then, nigal"

I manage for months at a time to ignore you. When it comes to having black relatives and hearing you liberally use the ni@@er word, I become weak.”

““so you think that the past (and shameful) effects of wrongful discrimination in our society have been eliminated and that racism is no longer a problem? are saying the the terrible effects of Jim Crow and this country's generation-spanning legacy of civil inequality have been wiped clean in less than one generation?”

Dude! A little less NRP and Rage Against the Machine. LOL!”

““LOL I knew that was coming!”

Believe me, knowing you as a kind soul from (the dark side) it was hard to post. LOL!”

“oooohhhh you have black relatives. i guess that makes you champion of the black race”

“no I do not think that. I think racism is thriving in America, by both blacks and whites. What I think is that the only thing keeping the black man down now is their leadership. A leadership that doesn't create jobs or take advantage of the many opportunities available to better their flock. Their leadership thrives by how much racism they can point out not by how many people they move off welfare.

I said we send out 100 solicitations for every project we advertise, over half are minority firms. Yet, we get back about 2-3 bids. Most of those are white firms.”

“That is why I say racism isn't the problem. Its the lack of leadership in entrepreneurship, in business, in the belief in hard work, in carving out your own future. Let the leadership stop seeing racism and start seeing opportunity and you will see a greater change.
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“what's terrible is the perception that the "black man" is somehow oppressing himself. this is nothing more than an attempt to use 40 years of modern history to wash our hands of a 200 year shameful track record of civil inequality.
last edited: 3/22/08 10:06:20 PM”

““oooohhhh you have black relatives. i guess that makes you champion of the black race”

No. If this were the case I would have said something about it the first time I heard it come from your mouth. I have never even mentioned it until now. You can say ni@@er all you like but don't you dare for second try and take the "open minded progressive" rout after saying it.”

“ I have never even mentioned it until now

im pretty sure thats not true

but don't you dare for second try and take the "open minded progressive" rout after saying it.��

im not open-minded. in not closed-minded. i am what i am. get off your effing high-horse. ill say whatever the fck i wanna say. free country and all

if you cant tell the difference between an actual bigot calling all black people nigeegee er-s, and someone saying "ni gg a, please" to another white person, in jest, then maybe youre the one who doesnt have any business weighing in”

“YogiSan, I happen to agree with U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas on his opposition to affirmative action, when he told a group of all black lawyers, "Any effort, policy or program that (in some way accepts the notion) that Blacks are inferior is a non-starter with me." "Isn't it time to move on...?"

All of my grandparents came from Poland, and had nothing to do with slavery in the U.S. that ended over a century ago. It is wrong to discriminate against the innocent whites generation of today for the past Democratic Party policies of slavery, session, and segregation, all before my children were born.

So my question to you is, how long should we continue down the road of discrimination against whites that is based upon the notion that Blacks are inferior?”

“dudes, being prejudice is normal. been going on now since life on this planet, some say it's a worm like a computer worm that only exists on planet earth that sets us as a prejudice being. get real and wake up , dudes, pick up a history book on the human race's existence and see for yourself just how normal we really are. It's trying to stop our worm is the problem and another point mr prosecutor, your ancestors in those magnificiant ships they said way back then brought many slaves here making your polish background as quilty as life on earth. enough said.
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“I think the fact you wrote 'n igg a' in stead of nigga shows you know it's not acceptable. So you're not a bigot but just ignorant and insensitive. Gotcha.

Tell ya what, if you go on a predominantly black web board and ask if 'nigga' is ok to say, and you find one positive response I'll apologize to you.”

“Trucker Joe, I never knew that my ancestors centuries ago in Poland sold slaves in America, or that one could be guilty of crimes done by my great, great, great, great, grandparents. Thanks for the enlightenment.

But how does one separate those guilty DNA genes inhereted from white slavers from the genes of the American families who sacrified 500,000 killed fighting the civil war to free 3 million slaves?”

“Say it, I dare you...cracker!

”

“mr prosecutor dude, your polish ancestory spilled blood during the civil war just like all those others who made this country what we are. some fought for north and south. some never had the chance because they were too bust sailing fishing boats from Africa to the US.”

“I think the fact you wrote 'n igg a' in stead of nigga shows you know it's not acceptable.

no, i just didnt want you to get your twat in a twist anymore than it already is

:-D
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“ROFLMAO mr bang. you promote slamming everyone including yourself. go ahead, slam sarge again ,uh tucker joe.”

“Tucker Joe, Polish people DID fight on both sides of the Civil War. But all my Polish ancestors were in Poland until just before WWI. So am I still guilty if only some long distant cousins of my great, great, great, great grandparents fought for the South?”

“the unfortunate reality is that true equality has never existed in america. the notion that the elimination of affirmative action will somehow be a step towards greater equality assumes that we were somehow closer to equality when the civil rights act was passed in 1964.

affirmative action isn't based on the assumption that blacks are inferior. it's based on the reality that for 200 years this country established a socio-political hierarchy that significantly disadvantaged certain minority groups.

yet the reality is that black americans weren't granted equality by the civil rights act nor affirmative action nor any other law of man. they have always been equal. our nation simply chose to deny this fact for over 200 years in the name of profit, power, ignorance, and cruelty. it advanced a socio-political structure that favored whites and was conceived in the notion that "all animals are created equal but some animals are created more equal than others." (G. Orwell, Animal Farm, 1945).”

“yogisan, I am not disagreeing with what you say, but your solution is to give handouts and not require anything of the black population to get it. Before the 60's black communities had thriving commerce, but inequality under the law. Now they have equality under the law, but no thriving commerce.

Its time to dump the hatred of their religious leaders and let the business leaders give them both equality and commerce.

Religeous leaders need nothong of their followers except that they be loud and angry, business leaders will need their followers to be productive and hard working.”

“The solution is being done half way across the world by forcing three religious groups in Iraq into cooperation for the benefit of the same good old boys in this country.”

“dude, why do you even bother to post if you don't have anything to offer.”

“Your 'Dude' post offered enough to make up for mine, thanks.”