Obama for President 2008

“Hyway - it's all about context. I was looking to put Prosecutor's points in context - without that they are pointless.

You get as selctive as that and what he says loses much of it's value.

If you take ponts away from their contex, ignoring the bigger picture, then it's farly easy to say what you like.

You could portray Hitler and Stalin as great humanitarians.

You could claim Castro and Saddam were great democrats receiving huge electoral support from their people.

You could claim communism is on its way to creating the world's next superpower.

Everything needs to be put in context.

It would be po”

“Yo, isn't this a Feugo thread?”

“I understand that Y2, but after that you said his points were not facts. I just asked how is a fact not a fact if it is true?”

“I said half-truths earlier, maybe I should have emphasised that again.”

“Blaw, blaw, blaw....”

“Self professed war criminal John Kerry came out for Obama yesterday.”

“I can't help but wonder if that will help O, or hurt him.”

“Oh, don't mind me, I'm just taking a pile count 93,94............”

“Reagan is like Disco ---- he just won't stay dead.� All the Republicans want to dig him up and drag him around the debates like "Weekend at Bernie's".”

“The Congressional Democrats have given Bush more money for the military than Bush asked for, with no strings attached.

The Congressional Democrats backed off their pledge to increase taxes on oil companies because Bush asked them to.”

“I agree. The Dems are spineless.”

“Congressional Republicans are upset there's no parole in the Federal system.”

“All I am going to say is I hope the independents come up with a half arsed canidate.....”

“i hope no one gets elected to any office and we go for 4 years without a president or congress :)”

“http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/church.asp

OBAMA'S CHURCH
Obama mentioned his church during his appearance with Oprah. It's the
Trinity Church of Christ. I found this interesting.
Obama's church:
Please read and go to this church's website and read what is written there.
Barack Obama is a member of this church and is running for President of
The U.S. If you look at the first page of their website, you will learn
That this congregation has a non-negotiable commitment to Africa. No where
is AMERICA even mentioned. Notice too, what color you will need to be if
You should want to join Obama's church...
Doesn't look like his choice of religion has improved much over his
(former?) Muslim upbringing.
Strip away his nice looks, the big smile and smooth talk and what do you
get? Certainly a racist, as plainly defined by the stated position of his
church! And possibly a covert worshiper of the Muslim faith, even today.
This guy desires to rule over America while his loyalty is totally vested
in a Black Africa!

www.tucc.org/about.htm”

“Interesting bit of editing, there.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/church.asp

Status: � False.

The church responds to Erik Rush and Hannity: � http://www.tucc.org/talking_points.htm”

“Fridgy - What is your point? Your snopes link points out how what follows is false. Are you refuting someone above (excuse me for not reading through several pages of garbage) or is this an attempt at self parody?”

“Uh, RTVW, weren't you the same guy who just posted a false snopes story on another thread?”

“His true name is Barack Hussein Obama.”

“Ronald Wilson Reagan: � 6-6-6.”

“I thought it was pretty obvious Fridgy was demonstrating that info was false.”

“Obama SUCKS”

“Huckabee's middle name is "Dale"..... like "Dale Evans".

� � � � The Horror......

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“he is good, honest man but when i hear his speeches all i hear are high-level truisms... people want change... the war is bad... America needs credibility in world politics.... civil rights are important... our immigration system is broken. you get done listening to him and all you have learned about the man was what you already knew when he started his speech. when the election comes, if he is nominated by his party, i'll consider voting for him along with the other candidates, but right now he is not interesting to me.”

“Whaaaaat's that guys name that wants less government?”

“I'll consider him as much as I'll consider the guy who delivers the fuel to my home. They have equal amounts of governmental decision making experience.”

“None of the candidates have ever been President of the United States, so they are all equally qualified. I guess technically Hillary has an edge here having DONE a President of the United States, but so has Monica Lewinski and I would not consider her a viable presidental candidate.”

““he is good, honest man but when i hear his speeches all i hear are high-level truisms... people want change... the war is bad... America needs credibility in world politics.... civil rights are important... our immigration system is broken. you get done listening to him and all you have learned about the man was what you already knew when he started his speech. when the election comes, if he is nominated by his party, i'll consider voting for him along with the other candidates, but right now he is not interesting to me.”

The key phrase we're all going to hear until our ears bleed is "change, change, change". Everyone is saying but no one is really saying how...outright. I hear Obama talking a great deal about "fairness" and "equality" and about how he wants an economy that doesn't just work for Wall St. but for Main St. If we listen to his underlying subtext (and others) I hear a lot of not fostering the attitude that we can all make it if we work hard and together. I hear a lot of "I'm here for the little Have Nots guy. They're rich and you're not. Let's bring them down to us."; not "Let's work hard and bring ourselves up to them.".

I get so tired of the stereo typing of the successful and hearing how the middle class is disappearing trying to make it sound as if the middle class is getting poorer and the rich are getting richer. The truth is more middle class people are moving UP, not down.”

“hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Go Fred Thompson!!
or maybe Guiliani

I've decided Martha Stewart and Hillary Clinton are made out of the same latest, high tech, lightweight titanium.

But Obama can give a mean motivational speech, hey maybe if he doesn't become president he can be a coach of a high school or college sports team.

Oh yeah, and good one Jimmy San”

“JimmySans, the real reason Hillary Clinton is running for President is that she finally wants to see what it's like to sleep in the President's bed.”

“Uncliff,

You are asking about Ron Paul.... he is the shizit in my opinion. He says he's a strict Constitutionalist, and I think he's honest.

He's pro-second amendment

He's anti-abortion, but against the fed doing anything about it

He's against illegal immigration

and that's all I think the Fed should be involved in”

“And the congregation said..."AMEN!".”

“Ah... the shiznit.

Pehaps Snoop Dog should get into the race.”

“Are there any links of Obama to Farakahn (sorry....don't know how it is spelled!!)”

“He's scary!!!!”

“...are we ready for a black president???
...are the blacks ready for a black president???



I was born and raised In NW Ohio...no blacks in the town where I grew up....but I sure have a different outlook now that I live in the South...

...you just can't imagine until you have lived down here how much they hate white people...”

“None of the candidates have ever been President of the United States, so they are all equally qualified.

Please! That's just silly. O has NO experience running anything. At least Hillary made decisions as Senator. All O has done is campaigned!”

“I couldn't vote for Obama if I wanted to - at least for the primaries. He missed the deadline for Michigan and isn't even on the ballot!”

“Jimmy's got an answer for everything why not put him up for the position.I bet he can out debate the best of them. He's a Masterdebator!”

“I think some of the posts on this thread give a clue as what the attack ads and secret whispering campaigns are going to be against Obama. It'll be interesting to see which side of America will be shown if he becomes the democratic candidate. I'm less optimistic than I was after the Iowa caucus.”

“Edwards, Clinton and Obama all have plans that have something to do with raising taxes, on someone. I will NOT vote for any of those 3. I am still undecided who to vote for.”

“lol @ spam”

“y2, are you an American?”

“Heard a campaign consultant on C-SPAN just say that Thompson still had a chance ..... if there was a 4-way bus crash.

If anyone wants to raise taxes on the over 250Gs/yr crowd, I say go for it.”

“If anyone wants to raise taxes on the over 250Gs/yr crowd, I say go for it.”

Why?”

“Why not?”

“Is that your final answer?”

“Yes, Regis � �< GRIN >”

“Contrary to popular belief, the vast bulk of federal taxes are paid by the wealthy. According to the Joint Committee on Taxation, in 2006, 53.7 percent of all federal income taxes were paid by those with incomes over $200,000. Those with incomes between $100,000 and $200,000 paid 28.3 percent of all individual income taxes. Thus those with incomes over $100,000 paid 82 percent of the total. They also paid 44.4 percent of all payroll taxes.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/04/tax_facts.html
last edited: 1/13/08 1:23:14 PM”

“Good, but they can always pay more.”