Obama for President 2008

“No matter what you all say about hate, left-right and the differences of the parties, you must admit that the two sides share one common bond in that they control this country and are driving it into the it's grave. Yes the left can blame the right and vice versa, but when it gets to the truth, polarization is where the devil lives and your choosen side has as much responsibility as the other.”

“you're only correct if there is no such thing as truth, otherwise, somebody does have the right idea.

No apologies should be made for having an opinion that differs from others. The polarization though, the calling out to others that they are in the wrong for being 'who the are' (what you just did) is where the devil lies.

Everyone must pick a side, even if it's the 'I hate left/right people', no crime in that. The crime is not working on solutions that work while blaming everyone else.
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“I have learned that math is all that can be trusted to always have consistant results. But, when used by people who can't even follow the simple basic rules of balance and proportion, math can be turned into another of the evil tools of power. The basic goal of the left-right party is to control the out of control success of the human beings over the earths surface to a fate less than even Darwin could've tried to explain.”

“you're only correct if there is no such thing as truth, otherwise, somebody does have the right idea. - hikenman

How interesting of you to say that.
I have seen similar arguments before on this forum.

So you're saying there is one truth then?
Are you sure there couldn't be more than one "right idea"?
Really, how would you know either way?
Goodness knows there are people who would disagree that one truth exists in politics.
Everyone seems to have a different idea of what truth is.”

“salebored - generalize much?

mutt - I only said what I said, not that other stuff you threw in.”

“Hiken, you are defending a disease.

Like a cancerous tumor that grows out of control with no purpose other than destruction.
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“truth is a disease?

very telling”

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“that last one is right on the money.”

“Yep”

“ROFLMAO”

“See no, hear no and do no and the winner is,' OH NO'.”

“Mutt, I think what he is saying is to Trust Jesus...

lol!”

“Mutt, I think what he is saying is to Trust Jesus - Nigal

Since you seem to be hitting the nail on the head
and since I can think of no other
rationalization for his comment, I have to
guess as well that this person is referring to religion. It seems like
every time we get a new person to trailtalk, he's conservative/religious”

“nigal is a troublemaker....
nigal is a troublemaker....
nigal is a troublemaker....
;-)”

“I wasn't referring to Jesus. We were talking about right/left, and making correct decisions. There is a 'best' way to do things, so not everybody is wrong on political issues as salebored suggested. (everybody but him, of course, where he seems to believe whatever the left/right DOESN'T believe, whatever that means.)”

“ps - Let's get this party started.”

“I wore a necktie for the last time 51 years ago next week and wear a Ross Perot '92 button instead of a lapel flag and appologize for wearing it over my heart, because I didn't vote for him until 2008.

I'm really proud of you R&Lers for keeping a tidy ship through the storms of the post Nixonic period, but am still in amazement of the number of holes you can dig and step in all in one motion.”

“Buy-bye Hilary!”

“Damn, I was hoping Clinton would get a boost. I want to see a bloodbath at the convention!”

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“Mutt Limbaugh would sell on AM radio.”

“I heard like 40% of hillary supporters in indiana siad they won't vote for Obama and 30 some percent of obama's wouldn't vote fot hill. All mccain has to do is keep his foot out of his mouth.”

“"All mccain has to do is keep his foot out of his mouth."

.....and not die of old age before November.”

“hmmm, so we have a 50/50 chance”

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“Somebody's bored.”

“Bored silly......”

“How come Florida counts so much for the first Bush election (well a few select Counties anyway), but is not counted at all for the Democratic primary.

Do I smell a double standard?.

Now if Hilary had those early states and led Obama, how would the money flow have gone ???

Interesting to see the Democratic selection degenerate into a racial mudslinging.”

“Count Every Vote!!!!

Where did we hear that? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!”

“I don't see how any democrat can call Bush and the republicans crooked election steelers with a straight face when their party has super delegates. Talk about elitist and crooked.”

“Nigal, the Democrats invented dirty politics. They have been fixing elections for years. They simply assume any 'won' election was stolen.”

“"The party rules for the primary were very clear and Florida and Michigan chose to ignore them."

First, the Democratic Party deadlines were just an arbitrary rule. What difference does it make being first in a Democracy?

Second, the Democratic voters had no say in the change in the state law. Why punish the voters in those states when there was nothing the grass roots Democrats could do?”

“you might not ask such dumb questions in public again.”
Reverend Truth V Wicked
5:29:12 PM
5/08/08

Given that the primary definition of the word dumb in the dictionary refers to a physical disability, you are showing all the tact and compassion of another democratic "Reverend" who has been associated with Mr. Obama recently.

Birds of a feather.”

“So Nigal... If the Republicans also had a system that used unpledged delegates drawn from party officials, would that also make them elitist and crooked?”

“Didn't the RNC strip delagtes from South Carolina, Florida, Michigan, Wyoming, and New Hampshire for violating party rules and holding early primaries?

Why aren't you wignuts whining and crying about that injustice?


Oh yeah, I forgot. IOKIYAR (It's OK If You're a Republican).”

“Cue the jeopardy music...”

“Pretty much made their choice by choosing the 'Same Old Guy', that 7 years ago, lost the primary to the 'Worst President in the World'. Is that IOKIYAR-only better?”

“Those words are gonna taste horrible after Obama loses to the guy who lost to the "worst president in the world"”

“And, you would be proud? Obama has nothing to do with it. It is a statement by the party that things are fine and the party will take the chance of more of the same or someone else to blame. What a way to lead a world that is changing so fast that only the 'Quick and Nimble' will survive and we want to enter the race dragging a 'last Century Anchor.”

“after Obama loses to the guy who lost to the "worst president in the world" - hyway

I doubt it - McCain seems intent on alienating his base.”

“I am not worried about that. Once McCain starts campaigning, Obama's extreme liberal policies and voting record will be made an issue and all good conservatives will be scared into flocking to the polls to keep Obama/Clinton out of office. Neocons may think McCain isn't conservative enough, but next to those two he will look like Newt Gingrich.”

“What I keep seeing conservatives say is that they'll write in someone (like Thompson) rather than vote for McCain. Whether the rhetoric turns into reality remains to be seen, but from what I've seen the momentum is building.

He just pissed off the religious right, so it's not just the "neocon" boogeymen that are being disaffected.”

“Republicans will not cut off their nose to spite their face. They will not make a symbolic gesture when faced with electing someone who will significantly raise their taxes and take away the other fruits of their labor.”

“Are you sure? Sarge said he would do just that. I don't know - a lot of the Paulistinians say they won't vote for McCain.”

“I am sure. I just tried to make $20 bets with each of the other 3 peeps in my office that McCain would be our next president and they all refused even though they tell me I am crazy to think that.

If the Dems had put up a milktoast like John Edwards McCain would be 20 points behind in the polling right now. Instead they throw out two ultra liberals who want nothing more than to rob from the rich to give to the lazy.”

“Fiscal conservatives - not happy with John
Religious conservatives - not happy with John
Libertarian leaning conservatives - not happy with John and childishly bitter over Ron Paul
National security conservatives - not happy with John

That's pretty massive alienation of the traditional conservative core.”