suicide

“Hi,

I've been struggling for over a year with depression nos. I've been to Brattleboro amoung other places. I'm sick of dealing with this no one knows that I'm having thoughts again. No one believes a word I say and doesn't trust anything I do. What could kill me quickly and mostly painless, some pain I can deal with just not a lot. I've already overdosed with tylonal, advil, ibproffen, and codene cough syrup; none of it worked and I had to go to the hospital. What could I do to make it work? Please give me some information about this a.s.a.p.”

“Hold on.”

“The folks at 9-1-1 have a lot of information on overdosing. Give them a call and they can tell you the best ways to kill yourself. I hope they can help you.”

“Yep, 911. They can connect you with someone who does believe.”

“Who believes what?”

“because you said Brattleboro I'm assuming Vermont.. http://suicidehotlines.com/vermont.html”

“He's asking for what to do to commit suicide, not prevent it, GNM.”

“I know.”

“seek help and hold on. Something positive will happen, and if it doesn't, keep waiting for it to. It's coming.”

“i'm a she”

“SMC ---

To the right of the message, underneath where you see the word "Sarge" there's a link that reads 'ignore this user'. Click on it.”

“Tilt, you're so funny! LOL”

“smc1994,

Click the "ignore this user" for Tilt. You can't possibly take somebody seriously who answered your question with "Hold on."

What is that? Is that supposed to be a motivational speech? Are you supposed to be like "Oh, I get it now. It's all worth it. I'll hold on now. Good idea. I never thought of that."?

Seriously gal, it's patronizing people like Tilt who make you wonder "Why?" ... you know?”

“Yeah, we forgot to warn you about Meangreen, � LOL”

“Well, see there's something positive already! Got a picture?

perv! lol”

“pretty much.
8))”

“smc - I too have problems with depression but I have learned to go hiking when it gets bad - I am not sure why but for me and I think a fair number of others hiking or other exercise helps to control the depression.

Everyone is different however and that I why I strongly recommend getting evaluated and seeing if some meds may help.

I would also strongly recommend not doing anything permanent to fix a temporary problem - things may look bad now but they will get better.

If you need urgent care then by all means call a hotline - its their reason for being there.”

“HOI has some good advice. I second it.”

“Listen to HOI”

“You guys need to learn to listen. Geesh. She said: I've been to Brattleboro amoung other places.”

“He did make a good point. When I was depressed, I hit the trail and it has changed my life.”

“This may sound harsh and I don't mean it to; think of someone other than yourself. Don't be so selfish! Think of the trauma to a loved one that will find you. Think of the sadness that you will bring to others, and they will be sad (despite what you may think.) Go do some volunteer work with the homeless or people with debilitating diseases and then see how bad you have it. Your life may not look so bad when you look at some poor soul who has no family left and is in end stage aids. Look outside yourself.
last edited: 1/24/08 5:20:59 PM”

“
(dancing...)

Go Tan-go!

Go Tan-go!

Go Tan-go!

Go Tan-go!”

“you werent too harsh, tango. you were spot on. if this is real and not a troll, you might have saved their life”

“this is the strangest thread ever.”

“People are strange...when you're a stranger, faces seem ugly when you're alone”

“Speaking of songs, I can't get the m*a*s*h theme outta my head.”

“on the off-chance that this is real, we shouldnt be making fun of this person”

“read the other thread and reconsider that comment crash”

“Send me your email address, and I will write to you. I am certain I can change your mind about this. I just need encouragement to help you. Thumbs up”

“SMC, pain is, sadly, subjective. Dealing with depression is something I have some experience with, and I found as long as I stay in "myself" I am with the worst possible company.

It is when I reach out to others that the pain seems to be shared. My email is on my page here...send me a letter and lets talk.

Frequently I work with people who think they are at the end of the line, sadly they are an INCH from breaking out too. If you can learn to see how truly incredibly VALUABLE you are in this world. I think it will help you change your perspective. HOI is right, a hike, getting with supportive friends, all can make you begin to see WHO you are is oh so much different than WHAT you think you are.”

“Weired. I thought this was a backpacking page? But hey, what to hell...I too would like to have some recommendation on 'how' to do it. I mean suicide.

My requierments:
1) In the process of killing myself nobody else must get injured, harmed or suffer unnecessary trauma. This is the absolute top priority.
2) It must be fool proof. I do not wish to wake up and have to realize I stupid scumbag was even too f*�&ing stupid to commit suicide.

I once saw a guy who was hit by a highspeed train. What a horrible mess. Like a bug on your cars windshield. But I felt very sorry for the train driver and have heard many of those drivers are seriously traumatized for the rest of their life.
No! This is just so wrong to do that to somebody else!

I have heard some of those who try to shoot themself actually miss the 'vital' parts of their brain and end up surviving it. They remain brain damaged, get fed through a tube and need someone with a napkin to clean the spittle of their chin for the rest of their miserable existence.

So, both options are nothing for me. What other save options are there?”

““smc - I too have problems with depression but I have learned to go hiking when it gets bad - I am not sure why but for me and I think a fair number of others hiking or other exercise helps to control the depression.

Everyone is different however and that I why I strongly recommend getting evaluated and seeing if some meds may help.

I would also strongly recommend not doing anything permanent to fix a temporary problem - things may look bad now but they will get better.

If you need urgent care then by all means call a hotline - its their reason for being there.”

ditto HOI advice...

Euro Hike brings up good points...you would be surprised at the damage you can do to yourself and still live not to mention the trauma caused to others...

By the way, I've been there and lived through it...I hope for your sake, and for the sake of those that care about you that you seek help. You probably don't believe anyone cares about you right now...or, feel, if they do, that you're a disappointment to them...depression makes you think weird, and untrue thoughts...”

“Euro, don't know if that was humor or not...but I have sat with friends who wanted to "do the deed" many a night. I can tell you if you follow the path of "what" you think you are rather than "who" you truly are you will lose out.


Euro, my email is on my profile (my name @ yahoo) email me. Lets talk, you know way too many people end up so fixated on themselves they lose perspective of WHO they truly are. Premature death is the ultimate violation of who you truly were intended to be (IMHO) and as I explained to one friend. "IF you knew RIGHT now, that one day you would save the life of a kid who would go on to bring peace to the world, or cure some major disease. Would that make it worthwhile to live?"

The only logical question to follow that is "How do you know you are not that person?"


Look I know I push the envelope with the unfeeling thing occasionally. But I have had to sit on ledges and sit in jail cells and talk people out of doing the wrong thing and INTO doing the right thing. And I sadly have gotten there too late, I have seen the pain in the people's eyes who truly loved the victim, and the victim never knew it.


Euro...YGM
last edited: 1/25/08 6:19:59 AM”

“Interesting subject. I once abhorred the idea, and thought people who did it or thought about it were weak and worthless. Then I was diagnosed with non-hodgkins lymphoma. I was anxious that I have some sort of quality of life, I realize I feared a loss of control and was furious over the betrayal I felt my body had done to me.
At one point I had my "demise" all planned out if chemo didn't go well.
It was an almost peaceful feeling. I knew I would hurt some people, but in time I felt it would pass.
Fortunately I never came close to carrying it out.
But, my attitude changed a lot towards this manner of death.
I would agree it's a selfish and defeatest thought pattern. It's not the only way out; however it's a pretty final one that you can't take back once you do it.”

“No worries, please. Currently I am pretty well balanced. Balanced enough to have a laugh about my stupid self and not to be too serious about ME, ME, ME...!

Depression makes you think weired (thanks Matahari). And you won't beliefe what level of weirdness I had reached. Can't beliefe it myself anymore. Was I really ever so weired...? Hell, why?






Hey, what about the "black pill" that the Nazis used? I have heard it's fast and dead save? Anybody has the recipe for it?”

“It was cyanide....not a good way to go.”

“anybody notice the original poster moved on?”

“Never know...they might be "hanging" around somewhere.....


Anyone want to know the WORST suicide I have seen?”

“Since I firmly believe this was a random poster, AND a troll...here's my personal fave way of going out.....


black magic marker, a wrench, and a bottle of wine.....”

“Oh yes please XL...scare the crap out of me.”

“I think the user name was very similar to the gay backpacker dude who posted on one thread then was gone. I find that interesting”

“Euro, we got a call for an "unsresponsive" one August...Think Georgia 100F plus middle of the hottest season. 65 year old woman did herself with sleeping pills and alchohol. Sadly she drank just enough to where she had to do the technicolor yawn, then she passed out and apparently did the yawn on the floor and aspirated (choked on her you know).

She had meant to call her ex boyfriend and tell him but had kinda left that out of the plan. So she is on the floor, (figured been dead 4 or 5 days with the A/C off and the windows more or less closed against the bugs not that it helped since there were critters all over her.

Well she did not die alone. Her Shuitzu was in there too....and well doggie has to eat.....We had to go around the house collecting "parts of mommy" shall we say. And we are putting them in Red bags and cleaning up stuff for the lab to check.


That is my worst fear, if you did yourself and they don't find you for a while.
last edited: 1/25/08 7:18:22 AM”

“eeeeewh...that's gross.
I am cured. No suicide for me this weekend then.”

“I don't know if the original post by smc1994 is for real, but on the off chance that it is, we need to be very careful here. A couple of friends of mine were striper fishing in the fall, and one of the guys, a pretty good friend, started talking about suicide and was asking about what type of bullet would be the most effective -full metal jackets vs. lead vs. hollow points, etc. He had been depressed for quite a while and had been struggling with marital issues, financial issues, etc. I don't think anyone took him seriously - certainly not the conversation about ammunition.

A couple of weeks before Christmas, he splattered his brains all over a motel room. He decided on a .45 cal. hollow point, which, as one might expect, worked pretty well. The tragedy (irony perhaps?) was that his funeral was attended, in addition to his wife and two teenage kids, by hundreds of people who loved him and who miss him today.

We are not therapists or trained to deal with people who are suicidal. We may be doing way more harm than good by engaging in on-line conversations with someone or about someone who may possibly be serious.”

“Thats true....but Strutta as with everything you do the best with what you have. Many people second guess themselves everyday. Hell that is probably the leading reason for psychiatric problems. So I do what i can do until I can get them to better help.


Now if they go take that shot....bummer. Remember Strutta, I cannot control what someone else does, ONLY the way I respond to it. And that goes both ways.”

“strutta, I think I should get a prize for directing her to emergency services. Anybody have a cookie?”

“XL -

You are right certainly. I was merely suggesting that this type of thread calls for sensitivity and caution. The risk of causing more pain to someone in extreme emotional distress is far greater than the risk of furthering the design of someone who created a fictitious thread for their own amusement (I think such persons are called "trolls).

Sarge - by all means, give yourself a cookie.”

“done”