A Political Bunch

“I really didn't expect to see much political discussion on a Camping/Backpacking Board. Fascinating...

Seems like a typical cross-section... Some Far Right... Some Left... Some in the middle... and some just don't give a #&%!$...

I am curious about one thing in particular:

Those of you who are nature lovers, campers, hikers, and climbers... yet are also Big "president" Bush fans...

With his desires to drill for oil in Alaska... his more relaxed approach to pollution (let them police themselves)... Etc...

With his environmental record...

How do you square that in your head?”

“How do you square wanting the government to take away your freedoms?”

“He's already done worse than Anwr- he tried to drill in the corn field and wound up with worse than a hangover on ethenol.”

“Politics Among Campers/Backpackers
�I really didn't expect to see much political discussion on a Camping/Backpacking Board. Fascinating...

Seems like a typical cross-section... Some Far Right... Some Left... Some in the middle... and some just don't give a #&%!$...

I am curious about one thing in particular:

Those of you who are nature lovers, campers, hikers, and climbers... yet are also Big "president" Bush fans...

With his desires to drill for oil in Alaska... his more relaxed approach to pollution (let them police themselves)... Etc...

With his environmental record...

How do you square that in your head?�
ickyma
11:36:37 AM
1/30/08

Good Question. The issues I care about are many. Environmental issues is just one of the things I care about. If the rest of the crap is f-up the environment would end up looking like a third world country. I would consider myself a tree hugger but I don't want the lazy slobs of the world pissing on the tree I want to hug.”

“Well, I'm not a big Big "president" Bush fan, so I guess I can't answer that question.”

“I wonder how Al Gore squares in his head the fact the George Bush has a more environmentally friendly residence than he does.

LOL”

“Yeah, what are you Mutt, like 5'7"?”

“It's the doublethink again.”

“Remember what happened to HAL.”

“I am not a Big Bush fan...hell I wasn't a fan of Bush 41 (and I know him). I teach "management" but I do not run around like chicken little on every little theorietical disaster.

Icky please research your points it will make it easier to discuss. There are two groups here....one go off Facts, Logic etc...the other FEELINGS/Emotion etc.”

“HAL 33.59 -.14.

I've got those wingnut feelings again
when I listen they always begin.....
last edited: 1/30/08 11:57:53 AM”

“They b!tch about "those Damn Environmetalists" all day then they want to go backpacking in areas protected from development and pollution.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.”

“Two groups??

Doublespeak..............again”

“It's interesting - not to say it doesn't exisit anyway - but the political nature of the board is driven by three posters who are obsessed with 'liberals'. There are a few of us who bite too much on what they post.

They'll claim it's not true, but there was a short spell when they didn't post a few weeks ago, and the political threads just dropped off the list... then they came back.....”

“It's interesting - not to say it doesn't exist anyway - but the political nature of the board is driven by posters who are obsessed with 'righties'. There are a few of us who bite too much on what they post.

They'll claim it's not true, but there was a short spell when y2 didn't post a few weeks ago, and the political threads just dropped off the list... then they came back...”

“Funny how that works.

Also, it's amazing how some people completely disappear when the "Fuego" box at the top is unchecked.”

“I know, I know. I was sick and couldn't be here.”

“Is doublethink the same thing as telling people what another person thinks even when you have no idea?”

“Ha!”

“Democrats and the media talk about the President's erosion of personal liberties. The Democrats want to reverse the tax cuts. Not much is more an afront to my personal liberty than taking my money away from me.

As far as the President's environmental record it has improved things around here. Restrictions on 4 wheelers in the National Forests has really made a difference.”

“Then there are the dipshlts that take non-fuego threads and turn them to crap, too.”

“LOL - Tilt was guilty of that just last week, IIRC.”

“�Then there are the dipshlts that take non-fuego threads and turn them to crap, too.�
Tilt
2:13:56 PM
1/30/08

You might notice real fast that tiltypoo and y2 are the biggest hypocrites on TT.

Do as they say, not as they do.
LOL”

“LOL...the Libbies are the defenders of FREE SPEECH as long as they Like What you are Saying.....”

“Then there are the idiots who think you're talking about THEM all the time, � � LMAO

But that's not paranoia; it's ego.”

“These are Sarge's contributions to this thread:

1) “How do you square wanting the government to take away your freedoms?” [CHANGE THE SUBJECT]

2) “I wonder how Al Gore squares in his head the fact the George Bush has a more environmentally friendly residence than he does.

LOL” [CHANGE THE SUBJECT AND ATTACK THE OTHER GUY]

3) “Yeah, what are you Mutt, like 5'7"?”
[AVOID THE SUBJECT AND ATTACK THE OTHER GUY]


Classic tactics of the right... Betcha he watches Fox News almost exclusively (with a certain like for O'Liely) and probably likes Rush, too... They both use that style all the time.

It would be nice (and polite) if he would simply answer the question that was asked (or not comment at all)...

Just sayin'...”

“ickyma - My question was no more of an attack than YOUR question.

Just sayin' ...

Ps - speaking of "it would be nice if he would simply answer the question that was asked", I'm still waiting for your answer on the other thread that you said you would provide.

PS#2 - Hypocrisy defined ...

[AVOID THE SUBJECT AND ATTACK THE OTHER GUY] - ickyma

Betcha he watches Fox News almost exclusively (with a certain like for O'Liely) and probably likes Rush, too... They both use that style all the time. - ickyma
last edited: 1/30/08 12:33:32 PM”

“Killed any more Grandkids of your political enemies lately, tiltypoo?”

“I think Icky just figured out that we Conservatives have our own camping and hiking areas with clean air and clean water...(LOL)”

“ickyma, welcome. lol, you must be new with that question. I know they've already exposed themselves, but there is a bunch around here that we call "The Axis of Idiots" (TM)

Three of em' posted right above me (in a row, I might add, which is what we call an Axis of Idiots Circle Jerk). Unfortunately, the AICJ is a common occurance.
last edited: 1/30/08 12:43:47 PM”

“ickyma - are you going to publically criticize Buddha Bear for, (and I quote), "CHANGE THE SUBJECT AND ATTACK THE OTHER GUY"??”

“Well.. the initial question doesn't seem to apply to him... so... no foul.”

“ickyma, usually I have the Axis on ignore. Once in a while, it's sporting to take thier moronic comments and expose them for the idiots they are. For example:

�ickyma - are you going to publically criticize Buddha Bear for, (and I quote), "CHANGE THE SUBJECT AND ATTACK THE OTHER GUY"??�
Sarge
12:41:13 PM
1/30/08

Thread Subject - A Political Bunch. Specifically, who are the "Big '{resident' Bush fans?"

I believe pointing those buffoons out answers the question regarding the subject matter.


Now watch em' twist, lol!”

“ickyma - what makes you think the original post applies to me?”

“he still won't get it. give up now, it's easier that way.”

“Not sure, exactly... but you were the first to post on it... and you've pretty much been GungHoWarBoy on another thread...

Maybe I'm wrong...”

“So you assumed that I was doing what you accused me of (CHANGE THE SUBJECT AND ATTACK THE OTHER GUY), but didn't assume that for Buddha Bear?

Sounds a bit hypocritical doesn't it?”

“ickyma - what makes you think the original post applies to me?�
Sarge
3:50:02 PM

then why post to the damn thread?...oh yea, you just can't resist to call someone an idiot for thinking different than you”

“thriftyhiker - Why did you post on this thread? Why did Buddha Bear post on this thread?

oh yeah, hypocrisy is king in your world.”

“I didn't change the subject, and my post wasn't an attack because you are clearly illustrating, yet again, the fact that you meet the definition of a moron by not understanding what a "subject" is.

Have a nice day fellas!”

“�ickyma, welcome. lol, you must be new with that question. I know they've already exposed themselves, but there is a bunch around here that we call "The Axis of Idiots" (TM)

Three of em' posted right above me (in a row, I might add, which is what we call an Axis of Idiots Circle Jerk). Unfortunately, the AICJ is a common occurance.
last edited: 1/30/08 3:43:47 PM�
Buddha Bear
3:39:26 PM
1/30/08


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time passes


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I didn't change the subject, and my post wasn't an attack

Buddha Bear


(speaks for itself)”

“ickyma - what will normally happen is that sarge will act like an dick questioning everything you say with irrelevant points.

At some point you'll tell him he's being a dick.

He'll then accuse you of making personal attacks.

His response to my post here would probably be that he's said nothing to me, and accuse me of making an unprovoked personal attack - he even started a thread about it.
last edited: 1/30/08 1:13:59 PM”

“LOL, don't pretend you know sarge Y2, he doesn't like it”

“lol, I don't give a crap what he likes. He's on ignore at the moment for being a dick.”

“ickyma - what will normally happen is that y2 will act like an dick questioning everything sarge says with irrelevant points.

At some point sarge will ask him a direct question.

He'll then accuse sarge of making personal attacks.”

“...is there an echo in here?

i'm rubber you're glue ;)
last edited: 1/30/08 1:16:05 PM”

“SS is also on ignore for a similar reason - he seems to be intent on out-dicking sarge.”

“The echo is noise from Trail Talk's #1 Control Freak and Busy Body.

Perhaps he has nothing better to occupy his time.

I was talking to a Canadian friend just the other day and the conservative party was mentioned.
My friend was quick to point out......."these are not your conservatives!"
Don't I know it?!?”

“AICJ ... ROFLMFAO!!

Nailed it again!”