Old Man McCain

“Let see in the last two elections the Socialist ran a reporter who had hired bodyguards (but was a liberal hero) and a man who may have well written himself up for medals for nothing.

Here we have a man who had a shattered leg two broken arms (with limited medical treatment) who refused to go home.

Then....

When I said that, the guards, who were all in the room—about 10 of them—really laid into me. They bounced me from pillar to post, kicking and laughing and scratching. After a few hours of that, ropes were put on me and I sat that night bound with ropes. Then I was taken to a small room. For punishment they would almost always take you to another room where you didn't have a mosquito net or a bed or any clothes. For the next four days, I was beaten every two to three hours by different guards. My left arm was broken again and my ribs were cracked.


I had been reduced to an animal during this period of beating and torture. My arm was so painful I couldn't get up off the floor. With the dysentery, it was a very unpleasant time.

Running against him is a man who spent his years violating the trust of the priviledge to vote (its not a right).”

“With the dysentery, it was a very unpleasant time.

Cindy's gonna be pissed if John keeps ragging on her cooking.”

“I guess that means carte blanche to the soldier, whether he's a capable leader or not.

Rambo will be glad to hear it.”

“It just means this identifies charachter, which means nothing to you.”

“And what's he done since that 40 years ago?

Oh yeah, become part of the Washington establishment and been shunned by his party for being too liberal.”

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Is that a Mexican Pancho I mean is that a real Pancho or a Sears Pancho?

HMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmm.....................................     no foolin.....

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“I thought McCain did have integrity. unfortunately he sold his soul to win the support of people like Sarge.

How can you praise the character of someone who thinks so little of America that on the one big presidential decision he's made so far, he picks someone with as little ability as Sarah Palin to be his VP.”

“As opposed to the dems picking someone with even less experience/ability: Obama.”

“It's a shame, really.”

“"And we're gonna quit giving our money to countries that don't like us very much..."”

“Improving......              but still pretty freaky.

Obama should have nailed him for speaking at those ACORN rallies.   McCain is SUCH a freaking hypocrite.

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“I can't believe he said the line again. Wait, I can believe it. T

he paper this morning had a nice breakdown on the halve-truths of both candidates. It took up a full page.

McCain tried to distance himself from Bush, but failed terribly. The big thing McCain has going against him, in my book, is that it seems as though all of these things are just doning on him now. Dude, you've been in Congress how long? If you are such a maverick, why weren't you pushing for energy independence ten years ago for chrissakes? Hell, 30 years ago when the economy was seriously in the shhitter (like it is now) because of the oil embargo? Mccain went on the personal attack and that was a misstep. Smart viewers were wondering, "Why are these guys wasting all of this time on this stupid stuff? Talk about the ISSUES!!" Bob Schaeffer was a joke. The dude is waaay too old and obviously doesn't give a crap about moderating. He was letting McCain walk all over him without any attempt to reign in the conversation.

Bottom line, McCain is just where he was prior to the final debate: losing.”

“Where McCain Lost It

Tonight's debate is not going to do John McCain any favors. On the contrary, it was the most lopsided of the four events in the post-debate snap polls.

McCain was winning the debate early on, responding with surprising vigor and detail on the economy. But then came this:

SCHIEFFER: All right. We're going to move to another question and the topic is leadership in this campaign. Both of you pledged to take the high road in this campaign yet it has turned very nasty.

Senator Obama, your campaign has used words like "erratic," "out of touch," "lie," "angry," "losing his bearings" to describe Senator McCain.

Senator McCain, your commercials have included words like "disrespectful," "dangerous," "dishonorable," "he lied." Your running mate said he "palled around with terrorists."

Are each of you tonight willing to sit at this table and say to each other's face what your campaigns and the people in your campaigns have said about each other?

And, Senator McCain, you're first.
MCCAIN: Well, this has been a tough campaign. It's been a very tough campaign. And I know from my experience in many campaigns that, if Senator Obama had asked -- responded to my urgent request to sit down, and do town hall meetings, and come before the American people, we could have done at least 10 of them by now.

When Senator Obama was first asked, he said, "Any place, any time," the way Barry Goldwater and Jack Kennedy agreed to do, before the intervention of the tragedy at Dallas. So I think the tone of this campaign could have been very different.

And the fact is, it's gotten pretty tough. And I regret some of the negative aspects of both campaigns. But the fact is that it has taken many turns which I think are unacceptable.

What if McCain had stopped right there? He gets in a marginally compelling talking point about the town hall meetings, but then steps back and shares the blame.

Instead, McCain continued as follows:

One of them happened just the other day, when a man I admire and respect -- I've written about him -- Congressman John Lewis, an American hero, made allegations that Sarah Palin and I were somehow associated with the worst chapter in American history, segregation, deaths of children in church bombings, George Wallace. That, to me, was so hurtful.

And, Senator Obama, you didn't repudiate those remarks. Every time there's been an out-of-bounds remark made by a Republican, no matter where they are, I have repudiated them. I hope that Senator Obama will repudiate those remarks that were made by Congressman John Lewis, very unfair and totally inappropriate.

So I want to tell you, we will run a truthful campaign. This is a tough campaign. And it's a matter of fact that Senator Obama has spent more money on negative ads than any political campaign in history. And I can prove it. And, Senator Obama, when he said -- and he signed a piece of paper that said he would take public financing for his campaign if I did -- that was back when he was a long-shot candidate -- you didn't keep your word.

And when you looked into the camera in a debate with Senator Clinton and said, "I will sit down and negotiate with John McCain about public financing before I make a decision," you didn't tell the American people the truth because you didn't.

And that's -- that's -- that's an unfortunate part. Now we have the highest spending by Senator Obama's campaign than any time since Watergate.

McCain's implication that Obama was principally responsible for the negative tone of the campaign was simply not going to be credible to most voters. Certainly, the Obama campaign has been negative at times -- more often than either the Al Gore or John Kerry -- and on several occasions explictly misleading. But voters came into the debate thinking by 2:1 margins that McCain was running a negative campaign and Obama a positive one. To try and fight against that tide was a significant mistake.

And as though to prove the point, just a few moments later, McCain attacked Obama on Ayers and ACORN, using particularly hyperbolic rhetoric in the latter case:

MCCAIN: Yes, real quick. Mr. Ayers, I don't care about an old washed-up terrorist. But as Senator Clinton said in her debates with you, we need to know the full extent of that relationship.

We need to know the full extent of Senator Obama's relationship with ACORN, who is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy. The same front outfit organization that your campaign gave $832,000 for "lighting and site selection." So all of these things need to be examined, of course.

And then, just a few moments after that, came this:

MCCAIN: And it's not the fact -- it's not the fact that Senator Obama chooses to associate with a guy who in 2001 said that he wished he had have bombed more, and he had a long association with him. It's the fact that all the -- all of the details need to be known about Senator Obama's relationship with them and with ACORN and the American people will make a judgment.

And my campaign is about getting this economy back on track, about creating jobs, about a brighter future for America. And that's what my campaign is about and I'm not going to raise taxes the way Senator Obama wants to raise taxes in a tough economy. And that's really what this campaign is going to be about.

Could that sequence possibly have been any more awkward? Mere seconds after reminding America that Willie Ayers was a terrorist, McCain flatly asserted that his campaign was all about the economy. You might expect to see two paragraphs like this interspersed through different parts of the transcript. You certainly do not expect to see them back to back. It's as though you could see avatars of Steve Schmidt and John Weaver perched atop John McCain's respective shoulders, wrestling for control of his message.

Obama, it should be noted, was not particularly effective during this exchange (especially considering that he should have prepped for this kind of sequence days ahead of time), eliciting a lukewarm response from the dial groups. But it turned out that he didn't have to be, as McCain was left with just enough rope to hang himself. And from that point forward, the dials looked like the S&P 500 every time that Obama finished one of his responses and McCain began his. The voters had been pleasantly surprised with the McCain they saw in the first 20 minutes of the debate. But after that disingenuous sequence on negative campaigning, they basically gave up on him.”

“Now how easy should this have been? John McCain didn't even point out the fact that it is impossible for Obama to cut taxes for 95% of working Americans because 48% of those people don't even pay income taxes in the first place! Don't you think a lot of Americans would have leaned forward in their chairs and said "What? Is that true?" McCain just wouldn't throw that punch. This is one of the most obvious, glaring misnomers of the Obama campaign, and John McCain could not relay that to the American people. You know, the problem may really be with his advisers. Maybe nobody took the time to fill in those blanks for him.

Did McCain have some good moments? Yeah, the line "I am not President Bush. If you wanted to run against President Bush, you should have run four years ago." Loved it. Where has this line been for the last couple of months?

John McCain's performance in debate #3....
Too little, too late. He was on his game. I think he's still in this race! Then there's this Obama line about McCain voting with Bush 90% of the time. Here's an easy response: "Look, Senator Obama, I know you haven't spent all that much time in the Senate, but President Bush doesn't cast votes there. The Congresses own figures show, however, that on key votes you cast your vote with the Democrat party 97% of the time while I only cast my vote with Republicans 79% of the time." Come on! How easy is this?

McCain did bring up Bill Ayers and ACORN ... but that's about it. He didn't press, he didn't give much detail, he didn't do much of anything other than to lob it out there and let Barack Obama dance around it with eloquence. And in the end, I think it did nothing to help John McCain because he couldn't effectively argue the fundamental reason why we as voters should care about these issues. So what happened? Barack Obama did exactly what I said he would do. He said, "The people don't really care about these issues, what they want to hear about is this economy and their jobs." The end.”

“Strat, if you wrote that, I'll eat my hat.”

“I agree strat, except for the 90% vote with bush thing. McCain is the one who originally claimed that.”

“As I suspected:

http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html

He gets his thoughts from elsewhere.”

“Strat doesn't have any original thoughts. He's just a sieve.”

“Ahhh, the McCain/Palin supporters at their best...

Dead bear covered with Obama signs found at school

CULLOWHEE, N.C. – Police at Western Carolina University and wildlife officials were investigating the discovery early Monday of a dead bear cub draped with a pair of Barack Obama campaign signs.

Leila Tvedt, associate vice chancellor for public relations, said Monday night that maintenance workers found the 75-pound bear cub shot to death in front of the school's administration building at the entrance to campus. The Obama yard signs were stapled together and placed over the bear's head, Tvedt said.

The bear had been shot in the head, Tvedt said.

"Western Carolina University deplores the inappropriate behavior that has led to this troubling incident," Tvedt said. "We cannot speculate on the motives of the people involved nor who those people might be. Campus police are cooperating fully with authorities to investigate this matter."

University police called in state Wildlife Resources officials to remove the body and help in the investigation.

Bear season is under way in western North Carolina.”

“Makes ya wonder who they'd rather shoot.”

“What makes you think they are McCain/Palin supporters. maybe they are hillary supporters, or Barr supporters or Ron Paul Supporters. Heck, they could even be Biden supporters.”

“"Don't you know that universities have been infiltrated with the Obama campaign's super special secret agents?!?? This is actually Obama operators making it look like McCain supporters are racists!" - a conservative version of ickyma”

“Yeah, right.”

“Oh, you guys are funny.

And I'd like to add, most agree McCain's economic plan sux:

Obama flew in the Democratic governors of several other states, besides Florida, that went Republican four years ago and for which the Democratic presidential nominee is making a serious play this time around. During the roundtable discussion, Obama hammered home the message that he has the best economic plan — and all the participants agreed.

Along the long table talking economic policy for 95 minutes were the governors of Michigan, Ohio, New Mexico and Colorado, as well as Google Chairman and CEO Eric Schmidt, former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, an Obama campaign adviser, and local business owners.
last edited: 10/21/08 11:17:07 AM”

“Oh mannnn.... Dispicable.”

“zOMG! McShame couldn't agree more (with Murtha calling Western Pa racist and redneck!) LOL

By David Kurtz

You may have seen Democratic Rep. John Murtha's sweeping statements about his part of western Pennsylvania being "racist" (and his subsequent "redneck" mea culpa). Not exactly laying the ground work for racial harmony. So John McCain arrived in Pennsylvania today all set to capitalize on Murtha's boneheaded remarks. Well, McCain's got the boneheaded part down:

You can see the glimmer of recognition of the flub, like he just chased Road Runner off the edge of the cliff. There's the split-second decision to try to pull off a miracle escape. But his legs stop spinning and gravity takes over and from there it's a long way down. For a guy who spent the last week reminding everyone he's not Bush, that's got to hurt.

Video here:
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/238916.php”

“aw jeeez ----”

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“http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/10/22/alqaedaendorsesmccain/

AP: Al Qaida Web site Endorses McCain

Most of us know this, but hearing it from them ...

Al-Qaida supporters suggested in a Web site message this week they would welcome a pre-election terror attack on the U.S. as a way to usher in a McCain presidency.

The message, posted Monday on the password-protected al-Hesbah Web site, said if al-Qaida wants to exhaust the United States militarily and economically, "impetuous" Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain is the better choice because he is more likely to continue the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"This requires presence of an impetuous American leader such as McCain, who pledged to continue the war till the last American soldier," the message said. "Then, al-Qaida will have to support McCain in the coming elections so that he continues the failing march of his predecessor, Bush."

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Tinfoil hat is in place.”

“And if McCain gorks..... the Psycho Airhead!

    It's a Two-fer!

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“hahaha, you children are falling for the old reverse psychology trick”

“Reverse Psychology - A method employed to get somebody to do something by telling them not to do it... but it never works, so don't try it.

(thx NB)”

“It works on children and it apparently worked on you since you posted it”

“Current CQ Presidential Map

Current CQ Congressional Maps”

“Won't someone please explain to McCain that there's a huge difference between an "overhead projector" and one of these:

http://www.zeiss.de/planetariums

Everytime he brings it up he sounds like the dip in the White House.

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“This is why libs need to have Obama redistribute wealth.
Clearly they are too dumb to earn it themselves.

http://www.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=111795”

“I just caught a few minutes of Colbert and he said if McCain REALLY wanted to show what a maverick he was, he should ondorse Obama,   LMAO

"My my.   What a freakin' maverick!"   people would say.

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“I just caught a few minutes of Colbert and he said if McCain REALLY wanted to show what a maverick he was, he should ondorse Obama


LOL!”

“Did McCain soften his position on torture to win the nomination?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mccain+torture&aq=f&oq=

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“I was just watching a segment on CNN where they demonstrated some animated maps illustrating how candidate visits and advertising expenditures have varied over time....   and something looked a little out of synch with the swing state maps I've been looking at.   It seems McCain spent a good bit of time and money in Michigan(?)

Michigan is solidly Obama-favored in the polls I've seen, and they haven't gone for a Republican presidential candidate since George Bush in '88.   I guess they thought they could turn it, but are now having to concentrate resources elsewhere.

CNN has a similar map on the website, but it just has totals for the entire campaign.... not how they have progressed over time.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/map/power.play/


Alaska update, post conviction:   Begich 52   Stevens 44   (Rasmussen 10/29).

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/polltracker/2008/10/eye-on-the-senate-latest-round-13.html#more


Here in Georgia, Chickenhawk Chambliss has slipped to the point where he's in a dead heat with Jim Martin!   Woooo Hoooo!

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“WASHINGTON (AP) - Barack Obama's aunt, a Kenyan woman who has been quietly living in public housing in Boston, is in the United States illegally after an immigration judge rejected her request for asylum four years ago, The Associated Press has learned.
.......
It was not immediately clear how Onyango might have qualified for public housing with a standing deportation order.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D945TEE01&show_article=1”

“Isn't that the damn truth.”

“Times are getting tough for those boys ---- the Republicans left seven robocalls on my answering machine today.

in Georgia......

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“I think GA is gonna go BLUE. Hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...”

“Chickenhawk Chambliss doesn't have anyone to morph into Bin Laden this time.   Independents don't know who Jim Martin is or what he looks like....   All they know is that he's not a Republican, and that's all they NEED to know, apparently ----

Democrats, Progressives and miscellaneous Liberals still want to tar-and-feather Chambliss for the slimy campaign he ran against Max Cleland.

      How incredibly sweet that would be.

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