Do you Know Sarge?

“I'd like to prove the troll InconvenientTruth to be wrong.

If you know my identity, have talked to me, have seen a photo of me, etc.... please post on here.

Of course, don't reveal any of who I, but please just come on and say so.

I'd expect there are one or two that should see this thread in the next couple hours and be able to prove InconvenientTruth to be an idiot.

Thanks.”

“The only thing I know is your email address that may or may not contain your real name.”

“How could anybody hike with you if you don't exist???”

“Since they changed the Sarge visiting hours after 9/11 I haven't seen much of the old boy.”

“LOL @ Crash!”

“I'm thinking you're just a Corporal at best.”

“Drama Llama reporting for duty!!!! I think I might change my trail name...that is pretty cool!

Ok...I have seen some pics...have even spoken to the silly man on the phone. He does exsist and I can guarantee you he is real!!! I haven't hiked with him YET but hope to in the future.”

“I got a e-mail from him once does that count ?”

“Who gives a crap.”

“Why would anyone care either way?”

“I almost met Sarge once in the land of chocolate.”

“so he almost exists?”

“I'd expect there are one or two that should see this thread in the next couple hours and be able to prove InconvenientTruth to be an idiot.

so what. everytime you post you prove yourself an idiot”

““Who gives a crap.”
Mutt

apparently whoever is InconvenientTruth does.”

“do you know the way to tipperary?”

“Absolutly! We exchanged emails and almost hooked up.”

“Tilt...be nice....!”

“Lets see...I have talked with Sarge, had him call me in some truly HORRIBLE times in my life. Then there was the weekend in Cabo with Britney and Paris...or what that the weekend in Paris with Cabo and Britney (LOL)

Okay I will not post any photos of the TRUE Sarge but suffice it to say he is a pretty cool guy. Oh and Nimble, Ginko...look into it.”

“�Tilt...be nice....!�
crazygurl

I agree with Tilt on this. It's stupid, but whoever InconvenientTruth is thought it was important to make a big deal out of it, so I thought proving him wrong might shut him up for a while, or at least reveal how crap is coming out his mouth.”

“Phone calls and emails don't count. Anything from XL, as always, cannot possibly count.

Sarge, until proof of your existence arrives, you really should stop posting.”

“wounded knee almost hooked up with sarge? say what?”

“...oh and while i don't know the identity of sarge i do know that he and mountainspeak own the same dog and that this dog died when sarge died but he didn't really die and apparently neither did the dog since for all we know the dog was really just a jpg swiped from a deep google image search. so i imagine both dog (virtual or real) and sarge are alive and fine, although i haven't heard from mountainspeak in a while. sure hope he didn't die and that his dog (real or virtual) is doing well.”

“Anything from XL, as always, cannot possibly count

got some DELICIOUS venison jerky in the mail that disproves that statement”

“I'm saying that XL is Sarge's lapdog and has zero credibility in this most serious matter.”

“yeah...Crash...sorry I thought I had a bead on some last night..but the bastard moved (LOL).”

“Ok...I think I'm going to change my name to Blonde Drama Llama!!!

whoever InconvenientTruth is someone on here??? I am so dense.

Sorry Tilt...you know I love you.”

“Same as chili post#2 so far alas, hope to see ya on a hike someday though...”

“the idea of proving sarge is a "real person" is a bit absurd. it is obvious he is a real person. at what point does the poster become the troll and the troll become the poster? sarge, you have bought your cover.

if the question is whether or not sarge is a troll let's consider the definition of a troll in the context of the internet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.[2]

in my opinion this definition fits "sarge" precisely. so it's not a matter of opinion, voting, or who "knows him". he is a troll by definition.”

“Well InconvenientTruth, people have already with little effort and little time proven some of your assumptions to be wrong, so you've already been exposed to be an idiot, and a coward.”

“Jimmy, I already admited that I'm Sarge. Had you all fooled. The biggest TT hoax ever!”

“...irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response...

sarge: when you posted this as "muskrat" (since you claimed "sarge" had died) what was your intention if not the stated goal of an "internet troll" per the definition of such a poster?

"Hey everyone,
I'm finally posting on the infamous trailtalk, or "the backpacker site" as Sarge used to call it. Unfortunately, it's not under circumstances which I'd like.
I'm writing to you because you meant a lot to Sarge. "The backpacker site I go to" is a phrase I heard many times in conversations with him. He'd often talk about things written on this site, and sometimes say "check this out" and he'd show me a one of your conversations. We'd laugh at some of the posts, and we'd sometimes try to come up with new ways to "make things interesting" and "stir the pot."
But, as you may have guessed, Sarge, whose real name was Jim, died unexpectedly. Three days ago on Friday, at about 5:15pm, Jim was the victim of a fatal heart attack.
I realize none of y'all knew Jim in real life, so I want to tell you a little about him, as I'm sure he would've liked me to do.
I can assure you that Jim was a good man. He loved his family, his friends, and his country. I knew him to be a man of conviction, yet he listened intently to others and enjoyed the challenging (and fun) conversations online. He was a good friend and proud ex-soldier. He loved to backpack and even had an optional major knee surgery so that he could stay active.
[On a small side note, Jim was not just about backpacking and internet chat. He loved the martial arts and for years seemed obsessed by it, working long hours at honing his skills. We had fun watching marital arts movies like "Iron Monkey" and then one night we watched "City on Fire"...a horrible movie! (The Blockbuster kid told us it was a good martial arts movie...Jim wanted to go Kung Pow on him afterward!)]
He's told me in the past how he'd often desired a friendly relationship and dialog with many of you, but felt the confines of the internet squelched that too much. When we'd go on hikes, he'd ask people we'd pass something about this site to see if he recognized them, hoping to meet some of you, so he really had a fondness in his heart for you, whether you agreed or disagreed about any number of topics. Backpacking and hiking were ways to just be with people to Jim.
Recently, Jim lost a loved one, his dog. If dogs go to Heaven I am sure they are together again.
Thanks everyone!" - muskrat (Sarge troll)"
last edited: 2/15/08 8:28:53 AM”

“Sarge used an internet e-mail address to harrass a few people. That's it? An alleged phone call to another annonymous poster.”

“actually Yogisan, muskrat was not me.

I've admitted my trolls, and that was not one of them.”

“see, a troll is a person... not an alias you post under. you, sir, are a troll plain and simple. just because you post under names that can't be linked to you doesn't mean you are not a troll. it just means you are a coward.”

“Like I said Yogisan, muskrat was not me.

Maybe you should read that again.”

“LIAR!”

“http://www.thebackpacker.com/trailtalk/thread/43468,,1.php#1380608

�LOL, sarge that "ghost" is gonna haunt you forever�
thriftyhiker
9:37:15 AM
4/06/06
ignore this user


�It will only haunt those that are possessed by it. ;)�
Sarge
9:42:45 AM
4/06/06
ignore this user

cowards lie when confronted with the truth.
last edited: 2/15/08 8:38:54 AM”

“Yogisan, you're trolling now, obviously.

If I were the one "haunted" by it, why is it that YOU brought it up? Looks like I was right in my response to thriftyhiker.”

“Ok, here is the deal, Sarge, lets go hiking. Are you ok with setting up a hike to put all of this stuff out in the open???. Lets put a face with it”

“There has been no post on this thread indicative of evidence that Sarge is real. Might as well believe in the resurrection...oops, he did that.”

“I really don't think Sarge is a TROLL. he's been ehre too long. he may HAVE trolls, but Sarge himself? not a troll.”

“Like me, Sarge is a troll.”

“Spirit - I've admitted to all my trolls. My last one was moonglo, which goes way back.

And to say once again for Yogisan's sake, muskrat was NOT me.”

“By the way, most of the time I was moonglo (after a cerain point), I had told everyone that it was me, so it was no secret. Before that, moonglo was NOT at all combative. It was the nicest "troll" you've ever seen.”

“a troll is a person, not an alias. an alias is the mask of a cowardly troll.”

“What's your point? An alias is also the mask of somebody who knows better than to put out their personal information on the internet for literally all to see.”

“Sarge lets go hiking”

“look into the mirror, sarge, and you can see the troll... not "sarge" and "muskrat" and "mountainspeak" and "moonglo" and all the other masks you have admitted you have worn. it's who you are, not the login id youse choose to express yourself.”

“that's very eloquent yogitroll.

Of the 2 of us, you're the one trolling right now.
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