1 In Every 99 Americans Now Behind Bars

“The problem will never go away as long as the money incentive attracts the smart people to the money side and the socialist WOGs to chasing them. You right wingers should know the socialist police and it's allies haven't a chance against the powers of capitalist pig crime. If you want less drugs let the socialist have the supply side and like all socialist attempts it will fail with no drugs available.
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“Damn fruitcake !!!”

“Like listening to the silly libbies, you wingnuts aren't consistant in your view of where government and the private sector separate. My guess is that if the taxpayer pays and the capitalist control the stats about the results of their efforts all will carry on like the rest of the messes that have come from this abysmal partnership.”

“Minish...sale is one of those failing wanna be socialists...kinda like Boris of Boris and Natasha (Cartoon) but without the really slick dialogue.”

“Dude sounds like an anarchist.”

“I am sticking with my original determination...IDIOT..seems to work for him...”

“I'll go with fruitcake.”

“wingnuts provoking, unprovoked”

“want to join in ?”

“I think salebored has a very accurate theory. Wonder what would happen if illegal drug sales were no longer a crime of any sort.”

“the criminal justice system could spend more time and resources preventing, apprehending, and prosecuting more serious crimes”

“Crash , you are insinuating that white collar patriots by subject to the laws of common man? How dare you speakie in such terms from so far from crime nucleus.”

“Um sadly we all know that the "preventing and prosecuting" end will be continually hamstrung by the growing New Castrati (as seen on these threads). SOrry Crash but while I would love to see it decriminalized I REALLY don't think the average Americans could handle the responsibility.”

“That's the funny thing. The right doesn't want the "nanny govt." unless it consists of locking up dope smokers.

O.K. Let's go with Prosecutor's numbers of 5% of incarcerated are solely for drug-related crimes (non-violent). That still 12,500 cots that would be made available for the violent a-holes that are being turned out on the streets EARLY because of lack of beds.

The Dutch violent crime rate is still a fraction of what it is in the U.S. Take a look at the bigger picture. We need to take a look at why we are such a violent society. This is what harms you and I, not the junkie shooting up in his squalid home. Why are people violent? Drugs? Alcohol? Background (how they were raised?)? Watching too many Chuck Norris movies?”

“LOL...those rosey colored glasses must make life so much fun. SO do you also think if we go to Gary Hilton and have a good cry and a cuddle that maybe he won't chop up any more hikers?”

“What about what I wrote was rosey colored? So, you subscribe to the philosophy that some people are just inherently evil and there isn't jack that can be done to alter the possibility of them becoming evil people.

Is that it?”

“The comparison of national crime statistics between countries is controversial since not all countries record these statistics to the same accuracy and every country has its own definition of each type of crime. In addition, the number of crimes that are actually reported is questionable.”

“I REALLY don't think the average Americans could handle the responsibility.¡±

but you think the average american can handle the responsibility of gun ownership? objects whose only purpose is to kill and wound?”

“minish, so what you are saying is that the drug use information posted by Prosecutor is fuzzy at best?”

“All controlled drugs should be handled by the military procurement system- only billionaires could afford a joint at $950.oo w/ free ashtray ofcourse.”

“rosey all stats are fuzzy. Ya got to be on the streets to see the effects.”

“This is a very tough issue I'd be in favor of what ever works. I've been busting dopers for years and I can't say I've had any effect. But to give up and say here ya go smoke up and enjoy I can't get there.”

“I see to many lives and homes destroyed because of substance abuse. I think it's a heart issue don't know how to fix that.”

“The funny thing is when you look at Prosecutors stats the wacko is saying record numbers in Prison is actually a great thing - which is a pretty sad reflection.”

“Pitbull asked, “Wonder what would happen if illegal drug sales were no longer a crime of any sort.”
Crashbang answered, "the criminal justice system could spend more time and resources preventing, apprehending, and prosecuting more serious crimes".

CrashBang is correct. Experience has shown that many murders are committed by people high on drugs. And experience has shown when you legalize drugs, drug use goes up. Legalize drugs, and violent crimes and murders will rise. More people will be murdered, and the prisons will swell with more murderers. Good point.
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“So what I am hearing is that we need more stoners to keep this country great?

Idiots.”

“No no Bacpac, what you're hearing is that record number jailed is just a reflection of how great things are and how we're winning the war on Drugs - don't you listen to the legal expert here?
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“More people will be murdered, and the prisons will swell with more murderers - which will apparently make us more prosperous and account for a greater percentage of the world's GDP.”

“Rosey with the exception of Minish, myself and prosecutor you have no dog in this fight.

I believe that most people are inherently GOOD. However there are a select few we CANNOT change. They are constitutionally incapable of feeling even a smidgen of guilt, concern, or for that matter sympathy. There are predators. I get to interview Juveniles who have set fires. As Prosecutor and Minish know this is often the first sign of problems that we start to see (there are many others but this is #1)

What exactly do you say about a 13 year old kid who in the short span of 1 year has set 16 (thats SIXTEEN) fires including one in the HALLWAY of the family home to see how his handicapped adoptive parents would get out.

He is totally and completely devoid of any emotion. He looks at the world as a giant playland. When he went through the Burn Unit portion of the training he and his brother robbed the nurse working with them.

No he is completely evil. There is no hope for him.

Sadly we are seeing this type of activity cross into females too. We are working a case where a FEMALE (age 15) was chasing a guy (age 23) who she wanted so bad. Well she has the run of the streets (don't talk to me about the mother..she is semi absent) and this guy really didn't want to do time for statutory and he wasn't interested in some porky little immature loon job.

Well our darling little girl, hired (wanna know how she paid for it?) two drug boys to burn the family of the girl the guy was dating. The mistake was these idiots HIT the wrong house.

When she was arrested her comment to the charges was,"Bi#ch don't need to cross me."

No, there are inherently dangerous predators out there. If you don't believe that you need to read about some of the real winners. John Wayne Gacy, Albert Fish, etc etc..”

“Too bad he's only sixteen sounds like a great Bush-Cheney replacement.”

“Let me "Counsel" them...they will be of no further concern....I promise.....poor misguided souls....give their souls guidance I say!”

“I got a dog in this fight. I pay a lot of taxes that pay your salaries, fund your programs and keep your in business.

I am fully familiar with popular serial killers and mass murderers. I agree. There are people out there that are evil. However, those guys were pretty straight edge. They just got off on killing. That was their drug.”

“WRONGO there Roseypalmer...you have never BEEN in law enforcement. Ergo by your libbie castrati logic you have no DOG in this fight...(LOL)

you have never interviewed a suspect, made a case, followed up with the evidence. Nope all you have is the result of one too many TV shows.

Here are some you might want to look up Rickey Jivens....he was a great guy for your side.,”

“Where do you get off? Oh yeah. I forgot you are on some sort of PEDESTAL because you are a roach motel inspector.

I've had plenty of friends on the ATL PD, done ride alongs (we'd go around and talk with all of their GIRLFRIENDS inbetween calls to the wives and taking free shhit from the 7-11), blah, blah, blah.

All hail the mighty XLAX, king of b.s.

Please tell me another tale of misery and woe from the XLAX Chronicles to make your point. YOu KNOW you want to.”

“Rosey, you'll get my doctor bill for the ribs I disconnected laughing soo hard.”

“i love the term "the average american". i haven't met this person yet, but i would like to.”

“We have a process to change the laws. If most people want go get rid of the drug laws they are history.

You can't pick and choose the laws you want to adhere too. Well you can, but don't carp about the consequences.”

“OOOOOH Roseypalmer rode along with the police....and then makes the usual libbie castrati negative comments about them...so just a guess here...you were in the back seat right? Thats not a ride along..its an ARREST.

Bacpac the castrati want only the laws they disagree WITH to be changed....its just like Shrillery screaming about the emotional BS that the followers of Obama follow..yet she has not ONE thing to offer different....”

“The rule is to skirt the laws, that's what this country was founded on. The 30% that obey all the laws also all vote and that's why the rule is to skirt the laws.”

“God knows what goes on in this kook's mind - there's little names for everything now - you think the medical staff help him come up with these when he has trouble dealing with reality?
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“Nah. One time we drew down on a guy. It was cool but I didn't have vest on.

XL, you disappoint me. I was hoping for a lessons with Unkie XLax moment...”

“XL - he IS the law!”

“Drew down.....yawn...So you guys Chiefed some poor drunk right? (LOL)”

“Naw. Stolen car. That's where I learned about racial profiling. Hey. Black thug looking kid in a hooptie. Turn on the blue lights and see if they run...”

“Yes there are laws and then there is freedom of choice for a person to decide for themselves. There is also a limit as to what laws the federal government can make without getting in the way of states to decide for themselves and not have their self determination obstructed.

Just as we can not pick and choose what laws to follow we can't decide which parts of freedom are OK and which we don't agree with. Freedom is having to put up with some things you may not agree with.”

“The feds still have their silly War on Drugs, regardless of what the states do. Look in CA. Medical Pot is legal here, yet the DEA comes in and kicks down the doors of establishments.

Oh, and this under the conservative, Dumbya regime. Hey, aren't you guys supposed to be all about states rights and stuff?”

“Way too many Chuck Norris videos.

Gotta love it when the vigilante types wind up behind bars with their old 'friends'.”

“Comes in and Kicks down the door.....

HMM yeah remember when DUBYA sent the ARMY (in violation of Posse Comitatus) into a compound and ended up watching 80 people burn to death/....or when he sent the FBI in and killed a woman and her small child in Ruby Ridge...or when he sent in the troops to remove a small child and send him back to COMMUNIST CUBA?

Oh..wait...Waco, Ruby Ridge and Elian Gonzales were during WHICH administration?”

“Lessee, drug legalization to =====>right wing extremist child mollestors taken out.

Yes, I see your logic *rolls eyes*”

“Who was the right wing extremist Child molester's but those were what the PRESIDENT told us...and (backed up by the Co President) we never found any evidence of it....MEANING HE LIED...OH MY GOD everyone who died there was an American and yet you guys never raised hell about it???

Lets check

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/b10.html

The showdown between the government and the cult began on Sunday, 28 February, 1993, when agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms attempted to arrest Koresh on charges of illegal firearms and explosives charges.

Nope nothing about child abuse...there were charges and I will not argue SOMETHING was happening...but you kinda gotta charge them to get a warrant...

The sad part is we occupied Iraq quicker than Clinton could take the Waco Compound....
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