1 In Every 99 Americans Now Behind Bars

“Sale...you need a new PsSSSiachtrist...thisun ain't working.”

“Mutt, we both agree that the war on drugs is effective. As a prosecutor, I just think it is a little more effective than apparently you do.

And I would be the first to acknowledge much waste in the system. Too many criminals are let off the hook signing themselves into expensive drug treatment programs just to scam the system and stay out of prison. Some defense attorneys say their dealer defendants would use those sojourns in a deferred prosecution program to recruit new clients as future purchasers of drugs.”

“keep drugs illegal and dump the war on drugs. We don't need the extra effort to go after drug abusers. Treat it like any other crime, the cops will get to it after their donut break.”

“Mutt, we both agree that the war on drugs is effective. As a prosecutor, I just think it is a little more effective than apparently you do. - prosecutor

The effectiveness is highly dependent on how you measure it, and I emphasized the lack of quality indicators and data. There is some evidence it may be slightly effective, emphasis on slightly.

You "think" it's more effective than that. That's fine - you have your opinion. But don't pretend it's an objective empirically grounded fact, because it's not.”

“Mutt, once again ... did you figure in the costs of ridding ourselves of the WODs?”

“1 in 99 huh?

Ya know it's pretty damn easy to live your whole life and never personally see the inside of a jail cell. WTF is wrong with these people that they can't figure that out?”

“WTF is wrong with these people that they can't figure that out? - HPM

It's not their fault. It's society's.”

“Mutt, once again ... did you figure in the costs of ridding ourselves of the WODs? - Sarge

Yes.”

“hpm, there are a certain group who cannot live "without" the structure of prison.

Don't know why. But occasionally I get to see the ones who know "What crime to commit to go to what institution"

The really crappy thing is the parents who start LOOKING for an easy ride for Junior once he gets caught.

NO...you want to stop the LOVE of PRISON, start with getting them up at 0400 do 2 hours of BRUTAL calethenics then a quick breakfast then they WORK or STUDY till NOON, then they WORK in a field to produce food or repair something but THEY WORK until 6 PM they get a quick dinner and they WORK till 10PM then lights out.

Make it brutal for every second they are there. If they violate the rules...not only solitary, but Sensory deprivation. Room with just enough light so their eyes are not damaged but where they cannot even hear themselves breathe.”

“Sell seized contraband after inspection at street prices minus an increasing discount.”

“The only way to stop people from going to prison is make the punishment fit the crime. Prisons are way too soft on inmates. Joe Arpaio has it right. Make them live in tents with pink jumpsuits on. Humiliation is an excellent detterent. Parade criminals through the streets in their hot pink jumpsuits on a chain gang.

Angola prison is the only self sufficient prison in America, it also sits on over 13,000 acres of prime farmland. They grow and raise the food they eat, the cotton used to make their clothes, and they even have a fund raiser rodeo every year.”

“Mutt, where are those figures? Could you produce them for us?
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“Tell me, do you still have 'chain gangs' working by the road side, guarded by an officer, hiding his cold, steely eyes behind dark sunglasses, a rifle resting in his lap and slowely riding by on his brown pony? Or is that just one of those hopeless romatic images we Europeans foster, after having seen a movies about the 'South'?”

“Euro, today they normally only put "trustees" on chain gangs. Now Arpaio (as noted above) does do that more for SHOCK effect.

As a rule in US prisons if the guy doesn't want to do anything...they don't.”

“Here's a site you might enjoy: � Corporate Crime Reporter


BTW...... � Where's � 'Scooter'?

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“aWATER..FU*King Gate? ARE you kidding me?

Oh what the heck

HERE ya go there spunkcatcher.

Oh, that's so nice and tough but Hillary � we know you have taken money from the Chinese. Not just once but many times. For example, in February 1995 Johnny Chung asked DNC Chairman Don Fowler to help him get a photo op of Bill Clinton with a few friends from China.


Fowler declined to help Chung because the list of friends included Zheng Hongye, a top executive of the Chinese navy-owned shipping company COSCO. In response, Chung handed a $50,000 check to Maggie Williams, Hillary Clinton's chief of staff. On March 11, 1995, Chung and Zheng attended Clinton's weekly radio address, which was later followed by a photo session.

Chung later noted that the money came directly from the hands of Gen. Ji, then head of the PLA military intelligence department. Ji handed the money to Chung with the famous words," We like your president (Clinton). We want him re-elected."

Still, Mrs. Clinton has a few of her own pictures to live down, including one with convicted "Chinagate" figure Moctar Riady. Yet, the many pictures of Hillary with the Riady family never made it into her "tell-all" book because that family photo series ties her at the hips with Beijing.

The Riady family is a direct link to the Chinese army. According to a U.S. Senate report, Moctar and his billion dollar company the Lippo Group, was directly in business with the Chinese military intelligence. Of course, if you ask Hillary, she has never heard of the Riady family. Then again, the relationship between the Clintons and the Riadys spans all the way back to Arkansas when Moctar bought out the Little Rock Worthen Bank.

Oh and Nixon is um..Dead...the people I listed are actually RUNNING AGAIN to be in the WHITE HOUSE? and guess what one was ELECTED to be a Senator.

Yeah whooptie doo, Nixon was dirty wow..big deal, he is no longer IN the party, your bunch kills a woman (look up TEDDY) and they LEAD the Dem party.”

“Speaking of corporate crime. In northern Wisconsin there is a lovely medium security prison built on the banks of the Eau Claire River. Prisoners are free to roam the immaculate grounds, play golf on their 3 hole executive course, fish from boats on the river or just relax on benches and watch the river roll by. No gates or fences, the prisoners are left to their own recognizance. Such a shame.”

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CORPORATE CRIME REPORTER
Louisiana Most Corrupt State in the Nation, Mississippi Second, Illinois Sixth, New Jersey Ninth
21 Corporate Crime Reporter 40, October 8, 2007

Louisiana is the most corrupt state in the nation.

That�s according to an analysis of government data released today by Corporate Crime Reporter.

Louisiana (1), Mississippi (2), Kentucky (3), Alabama (4) and Ohio (5) are the top five most corrupt states in the country, according to the analysis.

Rounding out the top ten are Illinois (6), Pennsylvania (7), Florida (8), New Jersey (9), and New York (10).

�If you type the word �corruption� into Google News, the vast majority of news stories that come up are from overseas,� said Russell Mokhiber, editor of Corporate Crime Reporter, a print weekly legal newsletter based in Washington, D.C. �But public corruption is booming right here in the USA.�

�There have been more than 20,000 public officials and private citizens convicted of public corruption over the past two decades,� Mokhiber said. �That�s an average of 1,000 a year for the last twenty years.�

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“Mutt, where are those figures? Could you produce them for us? - Sarge

Figures for the cost of the WOD? I'm sure a google search would turn up something quick.”

“Mississippi number two, huh?”

“The most corrupt states haven't been caught.”

“The real sad thing is they can move and GET another job. Years ago I made a suggestion that to be a Public Official you should be required to get a "Certification" like a Public accountant, or attorney or doctor.

A certified Public Administrator would carry a license. If they violated it they would lose their license.”

“The F.B.I. must be playing ketchup.”

“More regulations, X?”

“It's amazing how Some people love to focus on petty crimes and demonize strata of society at the lower end of the earnings spectrum while there isn't a peep to be heard about corporate crime and the millions of dollars involved.

It reminds me of the people who raise bloody hell about people on public assistance then turn a blind eye to Corporate Welfare.


Top 100 Corporate Criminals of the Decade
by Russell Mokhiber

Every year, the major business magazines put out their annual surveys of big business in America.

You have the Fortune 500, the Forbes 400, the Forbes Platinum 100, the International 800 -- among others.

These lists rank big corporations by sales, assets, profits and market share. The point of these surveys is simple -- to identify and glorify the biggest and most profitable corporations.

The point of the list contained in this report, The Top 100 Corporate Criminals of the Decade -- is to focus public attention on a wave of corporate criminality that has swamped prosecutors offices around the country.

This is the dark underside of the marketplace that is given little sustained attention and analysis by politicians and news outlets.

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“Wow Tilt , I couldn't find one silly libby on that list.hehe”

“It doesn't surprise me that some just want to shove the problem out of sight and forget about it.
We lock people up, they disappear from view, it's someone else's problem.

It's pretty typical of the direction a lot of political opinion appears to come from.

Unless its happening to me or to someone very close, then there's nothing to worry about.

The thing is there are a lot of people that need locking up. Hell of a lot. Some people are just wrong.

But to use this as some sort of excuse to avoid the issue of why people are being jailed in record numbers and pretend that's a good thing is BS.”

“"BS" - at least you got that part right.”

“Ah Str.... I mean Sarge - raising the quility of debate again. Do I smell bacon?”

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Why have so many people on death row turned out to be innocent? � (rhetorical)

Why are so many minorities? � (rhetorical)

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“Is that frosting ready for this cake?”

“Why are so many minorities? - Tilt

Hmmmm: racism from the conservatives, and liberals have not helped them enough to enable them to compete in society (which of course is racism, too).”

“marky Mark...not holding a real job you might not realize this. But the licensing of professionals is often overseen by the various agencies...Not the Government. Certainly the Sec of State holds the licenses...”

“About time to light the candles.”

“Fantasy Firemen, please test your lighters.”

“LOL...fantasy? YEAH...LOL....”

“�Speaking of corporate crime. In northern Wisconsin there is a lovely medium security prison built on the banks of the Eau Claire River. Prisoners are free to roam the immaculate grounds, play golf on their 3 hole executive course, fish from boats on the river or just relax on benches and watch the river roll by. No gates or fences, the prisoners are left to their own recognizance. Such a shame.�
squirrelbait"

Backpacking Princess and I canoed past that prison, and chatted with a fisherman. I asked him how long he was a guard there, and he said he was doing three years for burglary. Not much of deterrence to crime.”

“tiltypoo typical bull#&%!$ site. It claims New Jersey (9), and New York (10).

LOLOLOLOL”

““Tell me, do you still have 'chain gangs' working by the road side, guarded by an officer, hiding his cold, steely eyes behind dark sunglasses, a rifle resting in his lap and slowely riding by on his brown pony? Or is that just one of those hopeless romatic images we Europeans foster, after having seen a movies about the 'South'?”
Euro hike
10:08:49 AM
3/06/08

Take away the chains and the pony and you can see that exact scene all over North Carolina. But like xl (i think) said, they aren't forced to work, they are volunteers who get time off their sentence or some other benefit. they don't work that hard though.

We also have programs where low security prisoners go to work on a daily basis with groups like the Dept of Transportation or private businesses.”