Spitzer

“You know it's the wives I feel sorry for in all this.

Not only has she got to deal with finding out - but she's asked to go out there in front of the world and 'stand by her man'. Hopefully she'll take him to the cleaners - he deserves it.”

“We already have a thread for this ...

http://www.thebackpacker.com/trailtalk/thread/47517,5.php”

“Sure, but this one is just for Spitzer.”

“I figured the other one would just be the usual suspects ranting about libbies.”

“LOL...wonder if the wife is being offered the Governor's job after hubby leaves office?

Thats the way the dems work right?”

“THere is a special place in hell for those who are so self-righteous and sanctimonious then get taken out by their own hypocracy.

He made his career holding corporations and individuals to the higheest of standards . ..


I bet Hank Greenberg is throwing a HUGE party today. As is his son Evan (AIG and Marsh McClennan respectively)”

“What's that special place called, the White House?”

“Yup, I would lump Craig in with that bunch of hypocrits - for a different, yet somewhat similar, type of hypocracy.”

“Has Larry Craig told the truth...........yet?”

“LOL...yep he does have a shot at the Democrat Nomination....”

“Shouldn't this be fuego?

Silly y2 ...”

“I know you are just having fun at liberal expense. I certainly can't blame you. YOU both are so far up the a$$ of the conservative party, and have been F-ed time and time again. Given that long long long and dissappointing track record displayed by the Florida Congressman, the Idaho Senator, the colorado church leader . . . this must be wonderful and joyful news for you.


For me . .they are all cut from the same cloth. Liberal, conservative . .doesn't matter.

The more sanctimonious, the more self-righteous . . .the more sure that they are right and everyone else is wrong . .. .the more surely they will fall into disgrace.


No message there. None at all.”

“The only thing I know much about in terms of his work was his investigations of some practices of pharmaceutical companies. It was very good stuff. I've kind of respected him for that without knowing much else about him. Of course you don't have to be a good person to produce good work when the spotlight is on you.

From the news sources I read, he seemed pretty effective as a prosecutor. Of course, he was involved in shutting down some prostitution rings.

I'm hoping his "dates" with expensive prostitutes is all there is to it. I'm just wondering if he cooperated with this ring, to bring down some of the rings he investigated and prosecuted. Not too long ago some former NYC detectives were doing just that. They helped crush the competition for one whore house and got freebies, cash and the appearance of doing great police work in return.

I'll be watching. Was this a basically decent guy who started to self destruct? Or was this a hard driven self seeking guy whose good work was all about establishing a reputation and a cover?”

“YOU both are so far up the a$$ of the conservative party

What the? Haven't heard of it. Please explain.”

“Do you know that the difference between Spitzer and Clinton is?



Spitzer's so ugly he had to pay for sex.”

“I'm not a fan of Eliot the licenseer, but why do we make such a big deal out a victimless Mann Act?”

“I never understood why women think Clinton is attractive. To me he looks ke a cross between Ronald McDonald and Jimmy Durante.”

“Why do the wives stand beside these bums? Maybe it is the, "World against us," attitude?

At least Spitzer had the decency to hire a professional in a private location. Craig is the worst kind of deviant. A public toilet is no place for soliciting sex.”

“Sarge - In NY State there actually are "Conservative" and "Liberal" political parties.

However PA is not so blessed.
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“I'm not a fan of Eliot the licenseer, but why do we make such a big deal out a victimless Mann Act?”
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Because he broke Federal law. He should resign and he should be disbarred.

Where oh where is the same outcry that we heard when Craig had his little problem?
last edited: 3/11/08 6:05:38 AM”

“Why do the wives always allow themselves to be used as props?”

“Who knows? Maybe Hilary could tell us.”

“Seems she's declined comment.”

“Some of us were chatting this morning . .. one had seen McGreavy's wife on Larry King (your home state).


She indicated that she stuck by because of the kids. That she did not want her kids seeing her throw their Dad (for better or worse) under the bus. She bided her time, then got out.

WSJ editorial is right on the money today.”

“Americans wonder why they have such turkeys as the three presidential hopefulls. Who else with any ability would want serve under the goodie goodie idiots that elect them. I guess it's too late for Eliot to bcome a preacher where a come back is more than possible.”

“Lee...so Church leaders are elected officials in your little liberal world...? Strange you know in my world they are not supposed to be involved in elected positions in "politics" Now I KNOW that the title REVEREND seems to be really BIG in the Demosocialist Party...lol...But I think this goes to show your inherent hypocrisy.”

“Other than when he (again) only called out one side, I agree with lee: they are all cut from the same cloth regardless of party affiliation. There is no one side that has a monopoly on corruption.”

“XL - Its way too early in the morning to be wasted. Get help.”

“don't try so hard to be stupid.

My problem is not with elected officials or church officials. It is not with liberals or with conservatives.


It is with individuals, or organizations, that set themselves up on a pedastal as the arbiters of what is right and wrong, moralize and speechify and tell the rest of us how we should live our lives, prosecute and persecute those with whom they disagree, or who don't fit into their vision of moral probity . . .and then . .lo and behold . . .are big freakin hypocrits.

Because it is often the religious right who stakes out this moral high ground . . . they often have the farthest to fall. And my contempt is often therefore focused on them.

But I hold in no less contempt a "liberal" or democrat who is guilty of the same hypocracy.”

“Here is the part that you might have a problem with.


I have absolutely no beef with Clinton and the oval office BJ. Or the lie to cover it up.

Why?

Because everyone knew he was a cheating dog. That certainly doesn't make it right . . . .but at least he wasn't moralizing from the pulpit, or from the oval office and pretending to be something he wasn't. he f-ed around while he was gov., while he was campaigning and after he was elected.

It is the self-righteous and sanctimonious that cause me anger.”

“As long as OJ runs free and millions of illegal employers continue to remain unmentioned by the MSM, you will have crooks in all walks of our lives, cause that's what that freedom that is so often talked about leads to.”

“It is with individuals, or organizations, that set themselves up on a pedastal as the arbiters of what is right and wrong, moralize and speechify and tell the rest of us how we should live our lives, prosecute and persecute those with whom they disagree, or who don't fit into their vision of moral probity . . .and then . .lo and behold . . .are big freakin hypocrits.

Because it is often the religious right who stakes out this moral high ground . . . they often have the farthest to fall. And my contempt is often therefore focused on them.

But I hold in no less contempt a "liberal" or democrat who is guilty of the same hypocracy.”
lee
9:56:09 AM
3/11/08

Well said. I can overlook or forgive a lot of things. But hyprocricy is fatal with me.”

“Sometimes we forget what one has to go through to become governor of one of the states and all casualties along the path. It's not like you take a test and score higher than everyone else and you've got the job.”

“I have absolutely no beef with Clinton and the oval office BJ. Or the lie to cover it up.

Why?

Because everyone knew he was a cheating dog. That certainly doesn't make it right . . . .but at least he wasn't moralizing from the pulpit, or from the oval office and pretending to be something he wasn't. he f-ed around while he was gov., while he was campaigning and after he was elected.

It is the self-righteous and sanctimonious that cause me anger.”
lee
8:58:56 AM
3/11/08

AND that is EXACTLY The Difference between the two parties. You libbies KNOW YOUR PEOPLE ARE SCUM! Hell Teddy KILLED A FREAKING WOMAN

then you get all sanctimonius over some comment Trent Lott made at a PRIVATE party??WTF????? Thats the problem a Republican makes a gaff and you hammer it home. A democrat kills someone, violates his oath of office (See LEE lying to prevent another citizen from getting a fair trial is a crime you incredible #&%!$ FACE). ITS CALLED PERJURY....you are so blitheringly stupid you cannot see that becuase you LIKED that type of crap. Hell he is no different than a ROCK STAR to you. Well cowboy, don't know if you have ever experienced a government official abusing their power like Paula Jones et al did, but it is frightening. But as long as it doesn't interfere with your little "lee world" its okay....

Someone makes a mistake and they are GONE from the Republican Party...hell you dems will reelect Killers and Rapists...NO BIGGIE..

Thats like saying they should let Hilton out of jail because he just had a failed relationship. (LOL) Yeah just stay with the Moral Relativisim...seems to work for you
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“"Well said. I can overlook or forgive a lot of things. But hyprocricy is fatal with me."

True dat. Well said.”

“There's the seedy law-breaking side, but the dimwit also opened himself up to blackmail/corruption.”

“The 2004 election didn't reelect a killer?”

“XL, I just can't take you seriously. You got libbies, libbies, libbies eating up your brain.”

“Laqtis, the nifty thing no one ever noticed about Newt Gingrich...was that during the entire Clinton Perjury thing..he was pretty quiet...because he had his own issues.

But people like the diminish the actions to protect their own...”

“Trent Lott was essentially ousted by his own party XL. They saw the bad publicity and dumped him. You could argue it was a media witch-hunt, but it seems many people couldn't wait to drop him. If they'd stood by him he could have ridden through the storm.”

“Because everyone knew he was a cheating dog. That certainly doesn't make it right . . . .but at least he wasn't moralizing from the pulpit, or from the oval office and pretending to be something he wasn't. he f-ed around while he was gov., while he was campaigning and after he was elected.

It is the self-righteous and sanctimonious that cause me anger.”
lee
6:58:56 AM
3/11/08

I assume your anger is not directed at those of us that did not vote for the sexual predator?”

“Newt was quiet about Clinton? He led the impeachment proceedings, fruitcake!
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“Spitzer is(was) a lawyer-does that tell any tales?”

“RE: Newt . .. actually. Everyone knew he had cheated on his wife while she was undergoing cancer treatments.

Bob (?) Livingstone, one of the republicans who was supposed to be on the the house managers of the impeachment trial resigned when it was revealed that he was cheating on his wife.



YOu can get all red in the face and hyperventilate about Clinton. And Kennedy. heck, since WWII history is your specialty why don't you dredge up Eisenhower's mistress while he was in Europe, or Roosevelt's affairs (ooooohh a favorite republican target, red meat for those over . ..say . ..age 80).

if that is what gets you off . .. go for it.


What gets me off is hypocracy from either side. Especially as I outlined it in my previous note.”

“This debate could be shortened if all the critics who have cheated on their spouses would stop posting.”

“I'd still be here.”

“This is not a post.”

“You're pretty self-absorbed, Lt. Dan.

I was agreeing with chili's statement, not addressing you.

Pay attention to the thread progression, sparky.”

“Well....I didn't say it would entirely vanish:) It strikes me as odd that we would expect behavior of our politicians that we are often unable or unwilling to deliver ourselves. I'm not looking for a choir boy, I want the biggest, baddest mo fo around that can get us out of this mess that the moralizing Christians got us into.”

“"This debate could be shortened if all the critics who have cheated on their spouses would stop posting."

"I'd still be here."

As would I.”