Masked sea-level rise:

“Pasted from another site -

"Evidence that things are actually much worse than they seem. Just as
Global Dimming masks Global Warming, the mega-dams are masking sea
level rise. Since the era of the mega-dam is nearing its end, the
sea level rise will accelerate dramatically.

As everyone who follows this subject knows, the Earth is
complicated. But no one should allow complication to provoke passive
confidence regardless pollution's impact upon the Earth.

We should handle the Earth carefully, but we do not. We have already
harmed the Earth to a horrendous degree, but we're not stopping.
Scientists have warned humankind of the dangers yet humankind refuses
to make any sacrifices, just as the smoker disregards the threat of
cancer for the sake of another cigarette.

At a time in which the human population approaches nine billion this
sort of reckless behavior is a crime against humanity. Pushing the
Earth beyond its limits is an effective means of exterminating
humankind from the Universe, but we love our economy more than we
love our survival.

But it is not reasonable to argue with an addict. An addict wins
every argument with the next fix. When the drug becomes everything
life becomes nothing."”

“Just as Global Dimming masks Global Warming

Don't forget Global Cooling masking Global Warming also.”

“And then there is that HORRIFYING fact that the word Gullible is NOT in the dictionary.”

“Global dimming results from the soot, smoke and dust injected into the atmosphere by human activities such as farming, heavy construction, industrial emissions, and wanton burning of forests and fields.

I have yet to see evidence that global cooling is underway.”

“Well, since there isn't an increased rate of temperature rise, and no significant temperature rise in a decade, apparently if there is "global warming", it's being counteracted by something. Probably global cooling.”

“mega-dams are masking sea
level rise. Since the era of the mega-dam is nearing its end, the
sea level rise will accelerate dramatically. - hillslidedigger

WTF? I just did a quick search because it's been so long since I had geology, but something like 3% of the total volume of water is fresh surface water, and only 2% of that is accounted by rivers. I fail to see how a fraction of a percent less/more accounted for by dams is going to make a catastrophic difference.”

“JESU Christi..MUTT..there you go again. Where do you get off throwing worthless..FACTS...into an emotional argument?

Mutt if Hillslidegiggler wants to believe the WORLD IS COMING TO AN END..then Hillslidegiggler should have the right to be as big a blithering idiot as he wants.”

“I must confess guys. Last year I filled up my swimming pool, and I'm pretty sure that lowered the sea levels. Sorry 'bout that.”

“Well I will flush my toilet a couple of times extra,,,got a septic tanks so it will stay out of the ocean.”

“Is mankind the earths skin cancer? If not, fly to Vegas and support the 25 hour a day lights and consumption. Don't forget all those credit cards.”

“OR better yet go somewhere there are massive forest fires and watch as these "cancers" prevent further damage. Or watch as the Cancers help other species survive...salebored....you sir are an idiot.”

“Fire boy, your dreams are smoke.”

“sale boy, whasa matta? Can't debate? but I thought you were a Master Debator?”

“Debate the Straw man twins, Lefty and Ritey? No thanks, I haven't a clue of where, why and how we got to this form of imaginary government that can't write a script fast enough for it's 24 hour audience to believe.”

“Mutt if Hillslidegiggler wants to believe the WORLD IS COMING TO AN END..then Hillslidegiggler should have the right to be as big a blithering idiot as he wants.”
XL400236
8:51:29 AM
3/17/08
ignore this user

What was the point of that?”

“Duct, we have covered this ad infinitum...if after all the evidence like the little stuff like the increasing thickness of polar ice, the horrible winters in places like..Baghadad (first snow in memory etc)...then I write off people as the inbred extra chromasome crowd who just cant be helped.”

“It's getting pretty pathetic the way the Consensus is holding on to its cash cow "global warming". We could enter an ice age, and they'd still be bleating about how the world would have warmed up if it wasn't for all those cooling factors. LOL No amount of holes in their theory or contradictory evidence will convince them they're wrong. It's a religion.”

“Some models allow for global warming Ice Age, so , we are all rite and we are wrong, cause we've just been concerned far too long.”

“screw models ... look at the temperature over the last decade.

It has not increased at an increasing rate as predicted.

Done. End of story. Move on.org.”

“Are you rite and are you wrong

sounds like lyrics from a deaf mans song.”

“Do you people want the world to end?   Is that your plan?   Did you read in some book that it was supposed to end?  

I wonder if that's why you don't give a flip about the environment, the economy, the country..... the future in general.   You read somewhere that everything is supposed to #&%!$ up, so you're doing your small part to help it along(?)”

“When the world comes to an end I will be the first one to step up and admit I was wrong and should have listened.



I wonder if that's why you don't give a flip about the environment, the economy, the country..... the future in general.
Tilt
10:38:15 AM
3/17/08


Yep.....pretty much what has been said here....if you don't buy into it (whatever "it" is today) then you just don't care. Weak.”

““Do you people want the world to end? Is that your plan? Did you read in some book that it was supposed to end?

I wonder if that's why you don't give a flip about the environment, the economy, the country..... the future in general. You read somewhere that everything is supposed to #&%!$ up, so you're doing your small part to help it along(?)” - Tilt


No, I just give scientific facts more credibility than scientific theory. You?”

“It's interesting that Tilt's arguments are centered around an anti-Christian rant - whereas mine have always been centered around scientific facts.

Says a lot about ole tiltypoo.”

“whereas mine have always been centered around scientific facts. - Sarge

Unless the topic is ID/Evolution. ;-)
last edited: 3/17/08 10:19:10 AM”

“I've always argued with scientific facts on the topic of ID/Evolution, and never have argued Biblical theory. In fact, I don't agree with young-earth theory, so you are just blowing smoke, as usual.

I have, on the other hand, argued that science supports the theory of a designer.
last edited: 3/17/08 10:21:33 AM”

“Where's the source?”

“who are you talking to stove, hillside?
last edited: 3/17/08 10:22:20 AM”

“I've always argued with scientific facts on the topic of ID/Evolution...science supports the theory of a designer. - Sarge

LMAO!”

“I assume you see a contridiction, where there is none. I did not use the conclusion as my argument ... never have. You don't understand do you Mutt? typical”

“That would be no different than you saying "I've always argued with scientific facts on the topic of ID/Evolution...science supports the theory of evolution."

That's just as frigg'n funny.”

“Okay, okay, let's not steer this thread away from bashing the global warming consensus.

You had a humorous intellectual inconsistency - I couldn't resist pointing it out. Mea Culpa.
last edited: 3/17/08 10:39:15 AM”

“It was just a humorous intellectual inconsistency .... Mea Culpa - Mutt

You are forgiven.”

““who are you talking to stove, hillside?
last edited: 3/17/08 12:22:20 PM”
Sarge
12:27:05 PM

Yes.”

“
      Troll Orgy.

”

“Tilt, the reason I argue so vehemently against the Global Warming Crowd is not that they propose it as a neat THEORY. They want to use it to create the "crisis" mode which Liberals and Socialists have always sought to build so that they can easily move their belief's ahead.

The very fact that your leaders of the movement don't really seem to believe the very crap they are spreading is MORE than evidence enough for me.”

“screw models ... look at the temperature over the last decade. UmSarge
Where is that chart , put that model up again , I need something to make me grin.”

“I'm stepping inta the shigpit fer a minute. Now, I really do believe we're crapping up the planet. Regardless of our trashing the planet up at a fast rate or a slower rate, it really don't much matter to me, it's just pretty obvious that Earth is gittin kikt in the groin. Debating "Global Warming" is a distraction, same for the "Sea-Level Rise" theory.

These threads come and go on Global Warming here, and everywhere I'd guess, so I don't want to regurgitate scientific facts that support one side or the other. Both sides of the arguement have hard, fast, good facts. So somebody hike along with me for a minute......
Let's take away the Christian thought for now, for in the Bible it don't matter if we crap up the planet or not.
Based only on metaphysical forces, is it agreeable that the Earth's flora and fauna have been operating for millions, hundreds of millions or a billion even, of years pretty much the same way?? No? There have been some somewhat slight warming periods, and some somewhat cooling periods, temperate flunctuations lasting decades and sometimes centuries. Is this too pretty agreeable?? In these millions of years there is evidence that a major catastophe or 2 or 3 has occured, like the one ending dinosaurs.... no??

So what's different?? Look at man. In only the last 2 hundred years man has invented the engine. And in these last cupla hundred years, he's made .... what, billions of them, all burning oil fuels. These billions of engines are perhaps now tens of billions of engines. And with the modernization of HUGE countries with HUGE poor populations, India and China, probably over the next fitty or hundred years or so these oil fuel burning engines and machines might number in the hundreds of billions. Is this a grossly exaggerated assessment? I don't thank so.

Now look at man again. He/she is humping at an astounding rate, perhaps in a hurry to outdo the rat or cockroach, I don't know. Last I seen, we were at about 6.5 Billion, somebody above said nearly 9 bil, but I've not seen that one yet. All those ppl eating, shlting, devouring, and consuming resources of Earth ....no?

How can these last 200 years, or even 100 years, not horribly affect our planet??? This new planetary activity is but a blip in our planet's living history, and this blip is so completely different in it's resource burning and use, how can this NOT be detrimental to the planet's future success???
I mean even for the most ardent Bush supporters, wouldn't this assessment be reasonable??? (Poking a lilbit at Bush don't mean I thank any better of the Democrats, which I don't.)”

“try the global warming thread?”

“Bush and his buddies in the fuel and power industries like Chevron, General Electric and BP have agreed that climate change is occuring and is substantially human-generated.   I'm inclined to think it's a PR ploy and that they are fighting tooth and nail behind the scenes.

It's like Exxon's media campaign showing blue skies, chirping birds and fluffy white clouds while their army of lawyers work to dodge their responsibility in Prince William Sound.”

“Don't forget the black helicopters....”

“Re: Exxon & PWS.
You'd think that with all that's been going on in the oil market as of late, now would be the perfect time to discharge that responsibility without hitting the bottom line so hard and be able to spin it into more fluffy, blue sky PR.”

“It's not like they're strapped for cash,   < WINK >).   A billion here, a billion there.....   it begins to add up, though.

I wonder if Alyeska ever managed to get their emergency equipment shipshape in case of another accident.   One of the networks did a followup a few years later and they were no more prepared than they were the night the Exxon Valdez ran aground.   You'd think they'd have gotten a clue.”

“naked ape - the numbers go like this:

1 million people... 10,000 years ago
100 million people... 2500 years ago
1 billion people... 1804
2 billion people... 1927
3 billion people... 1960
4 billion people... 1974
5 billion people... 1987
6 billion people... 1999
7 billion people... 2013
8 billion people... 2028
9 billion people... 2054
10 billion people... 2200

Things start to level out in about 40 years, taking 150 more to level out at 10 billion. Notice how quickly we went from 1 billion people (pre-industrialization) to today at over 6 billion. Only 200 years. And we'll almost double again in 200 more.

No wonder we are having so many problems.”

“No wonder we are having so many problems.

Exactly, that means that half of them, 5 billion, are silly libbies.”

“Half of 6.5 billion equals 5 billion? Silly republican.”

“Half of 10 billion, your projected future from hell, is 5 billion.”

“LOL Sarge, too many libbies fo sho, and LOL more at tech for Sarge's math!

Nice stats tech, thanx, it is interesting to see how well humans are spreading, literally, hehehe. Where'd you get that tech?

Arguing over Global Warming or Sea Rise is like arguing about what to do with a terribly itchy, huge zit...., when you're dying with AIDS. It's frivolous babble.”

“What is half of 10 billion?”

“naked ape - must be that 'new math' they're teaching in schools lately.

I got the stats from a UN white paper I found online. Scary that just in the Baby Boomer's lifetimes the world population will have gone from 2.5 billion to 8.5 billion. Never before and never again will that happen in one, or even 2, 3 or 4 generations. Scary.”