Happy Anniversary

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"March 24 marks 19 years since the grounding and 19 years since Exxon’s promise to compensate the ruined fishermen. You should watch the 19-year-old video-tape of Exxon’s man in Alaska. I especially like the part where he tells the fishermen, “You have had some good luck – and you don’t realize it."

I know some of the fishermen on the TV footage, like the Anderson family, Eyak Natives. I can tell you, the Eyak don’t feel so lucky, still waiting for the Supreme Court to act on Exxon’s latest stall on payment..."

-- Greg Palast

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“GTFOI...Jeezus. Tilty if you had a job maybe you wouldn't be so freaking stuck on victimhood.”

“It's all about EXXON taking responsibility for the damage they wreaked and fulfilling their promises of compensation.”

“LOL...yeah right Marky mark. HMM taking responsibility...lets see....Where would we be without Lawyers.”

“Apologist for corporate criminals, huh XLax?”

“I still think the HOOT was that Hazelwood was a LIBBIE...ROTFLMAO...he was a FREAKING TREE HUGGER...sorry it was just too good.

Kinda like Finding out that the Hero of your leftist bunch was a rapist that treated women like spit cups (fill em and throw em away).”

“Marky, since when are you interested in people taking responsibility for their actions? Only applies to large corporations (especiallu OIL I guess) and republicans. Otherwise you always seem pretty silent.”

“You haven't a clue, No Prod.

This is your style......where I tell you what you think.

You, No Prod, love criminals especially OIL industry polluters and Lying Latrine Lover Boys.”

“Actually I don't know (or care) what you think. I just like to point out your hypocracy. You are whining about personal responsibility here, but you never mention it when it's a democrat issue or liberal cause. But I admit that you have plenty company (V, tilt, laq, ...).”

“Fake backpackers.  They don't give a crap about the outdoors.   They're just here to troll.”

“If your're refering to me...
...Fake backpackers... Probably correct by most REAL backpacker's standards. Haven't done it for awhile.

...They don't give a crap about the
outdoors... You couldn't be more wrong.

...They're just here to troll... Yeah, Pretty much.”

“Responsibility..lets see who was in Charge (that would be the Captain of the Exxon Valdeze?)”

“faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake.”

““Responsibility..lets see who was in Charge (that would be the Captain of the Exxon Valdeze?)”
XL400236
1:54:24 PM
3/24/08

And who is liable for any damages caused by EXXON's ship?

TILT !!”

“LOL...thats RIGHT let the libbie tree hugger off.”

“LOL...thats RIGHT let the libbie tree hugger off.”
XL400236
7:08:47 AM
3/25/08

Why would you want to do that, Runty?

The drunk #&%!$ who was driving the ship should have(if he didn't) done the appropriate time in prison.

The owners of the ship should pay for the damages caused by their ship.

I guess you don't believe in law and order.

No Prod should dope-slapped for his insolence thereby taking responsibility for running his nasty little mouth.”

“What? I don't think I defended either the captian or the Exxon. I just pointed out the hypocracy of you lefties. You want personal responsibility for those who you find offensive (republicans, conservitave, big corporations, but if they are liberals we hear nothing about it from you.

I case you can't figure it out, I think EVERYONE should take responsibility for their own actions.”

“NoProb what they want is SHARED PAIN. Meaning PUNISH the successful, i.e. drive them in the ground, but the resident scum and leeches of society should be allowed to apologize and then walk free.”

“Sounds like the successful are responsible for the pain being felt by the natural victims(birds, beaches etc.) not your Leeches in Georgia you herd around.

Do a search and tell us what party the pilots of the two 'Towers' airliners belonged ?
last edited: 3/25/08 7:35:16 AM”

“SB, look around you. Everything you see is there because of people/businesses that are successful. Not just the bad things that the libs like to blame on them. Everything. Cars, gas to go in them, charities that help people in need, everything.”

“Those of us who believe in free markets, less regulation and personal responsibility are the first ones who should be climbing up Exxon's ass. Part of keeping the government from over regulating is making them enforce the regs we have now.”

“I must come down on the liberal side of this. The cars w/gas were forced on the public, by ,yes, overly successful companies that over the years bought government and anyone else that stood in their path.

Whether or not their intentions were positive are beyond repair now, but we as a nation have to either undo much of that dependence or continue to become more and more aggressive to feed that habit.Either way, success with the use of credit cards have run their term, time will tell the rest of the success story.”

“NoProb where HAVE YOU BEEN ..? Everything was invented by POOR, Tree HUGGING, enviro wacko religion believing, kumbahya singing maggot infested dope smoking Charity Cases (LOL) and stolen by the RICH. GOsh don't you subscribe to "LEECH AND VICTIM QUARTERLY"?”

“What a nice trash bag full of your real self, did you steal that from your government, too?

Did god give you your ugliness or did the libbies make you that way?
last edited: 3/25/08 8:37:58 AM”

“When Gasoline cost the same per gallon as the minimium wage per hour you 'Foreign Oil Support Team' members will have atleast have a collective 'success' in your lives.”

“People who think Exxon should be able to dodge their responsibility should have an industrial hog farm move in next door.”

“"What a nice trash bag full of your real self, did you steal that from your government, too?"

That's very well put.

"Those of us who believe in free markets, less regulation and personal responsibility are the first ones who should be climbing up Exxon's ass."
Nigal

I am one of those people......also well put, Nigal.”

“Okay, I'm a little late to this party so forgive. What exactly did Exxon do? I know the part about their drunk employee crashing their boat, but what did Exxon do?”

“I won't forget that one Tilt. The Exxon lawyers could take up guarded residence next to one.hehe

Marko, isn't 'Well put' what they did to witches?”

“So what are you trying to infer there NonC?

How do you see the situation?
last edited: 3/25/08 9:29:19 AM”

“EXXON owned the boat.”

“I'm infer trying to find out what Exxon did. What're you infer?”

“Geez Sale, did I forget the hyphen?”

“Oh I see, they owned the boat. Is that a guilt by association thing---the modern day lawyers' rainbow?”

“When a tanker truck crashes on the highway its the responsibility of the company that owns the truck to pay for the clean up why would this be any different?”

“Okay, so if that's true minish it's guilt by association, right?”

“see first post.”

“My Franklin says ME did.”

“Who is ultimately responsible for the content of this forum. Elise, or Demand Media?”

“Guilt by association? I'm not sure what your attempting to say here.”

“Come on NonC - how do you see this situation then?
last edited: 3/25/08 9:49:47 AM”

““Oh I see, they owned the boat. Is that a guilt by association thing---the modern day lawyers' rainbow?”
Nonconformist
10:42:52 AM
3/25/08

It's not a question of guilt, it's a little thing called liability.

Without insurance coverage of some kind commercial boats don't sail.

If it were guilt by association then the birds who witnessed the crash would be ponying up.”

“Thanks, Tilt. If Exxon promised to pay, then they should. If they are being forced to pay, I understand the desire to drag it out.

Call it like it is: a drunk employee crashed their boat and spilled their oil. The company is "guilty" by association because it was their employee. The company didn't do anything wrong. That's like saying Smith and Wesson is guilty because some "redneck" shot somebody else.”

“"But I admit that you have plenty company (V, tilt, laq, ...)"

It's pretty easy to throw out assumptions as though they were knowledge candy. It's just a tad bit harder to back up a statement with facts. I personally would just love to see just what examples you have of me absolving the Democrat Party, or the side of the aisle for that matter, of personal responsibility.
last edited: 3/25/08 9:49:21 AM”

“Keep throwing your questions out there Y2, it's okay. You don't have to answer, it's not a requirement.”

“Well you were sniping away there - so it's good to find out what you actually think.

The idea that corporations bear no responsibility for the actions of its employees is pretty easy to break down though.

In Exxon's case it may revolve around Exxon having to pay liability insurance for each of tens of thousands of employees as no individual could take on the risk of piloting an oil tanker.”

““Thanks, Tilt. If Exxon promised to pay, then they should. If they are being forced to pay, I understand the desire to drag it out.

Call it like it is: a drunk employee crashed their boat and spilled their oil. The company is "guilty" by association because it was their employee. The company didn't do anything wrong. That's like saying Smith and Wesson is guilty because some "redneck" shot somebody else.”
Nonconformist
10:57:35 AM
3/25/08

One doesn't have to be a lawyer to understand liability of commercial carriers.

EXXON owned the oil, it ended up on the beach.
Whether they "promised" to pay is irrelevant.
When engaging in commercial transport there are rules that apply.

NonCon................you ain't really dumb, are you?
You're just pulling our legs..............non?”

“NonCon................you ain't really dumb, are you?
MarkO
11:07:27 AM
3/25/08


No, I can speak just fine.”

“"Guilt by association" ????

That really is funny!

You is very funny guy!”