The Bush Legacy

“WASHINGTON DC (CNN) -- A new poll suggests that President Bush is the most unpopular president in modern American history.

A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey released Thursday indicates that 71 percent of the American public disapprove of how Bush is handling his job as president.

"No president has ever had a higher disapproval rating in any CNN or Gallup Poll; in fact, this is the first time that any president's disapproval rating has cracked the 70 percent mark," said Keating Holland, CNN's polling director.

"Bush's approval rating, which stands at 28 percent in our new poll, remains better than the all-time lows set by Harry Truman and Richard Nixon [22 percent and 24 percent, respectively], but even those two presidents never got a disapproval rating in the 70s," Holland said. "The previous all-time record in CNN or Gallup polling was set by Truman, 67 percent disapproval in January 1952."

While Gallup polling goes back to the 1930s, it wasn't until the Truman years that they began surveying monthly approval ratings.

CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider adds, "He is more unpopular than Richard Nixon was just before he resigned from the presidency in August 1974."

President Nixon's disapproval rating in August 1974 stood at 66 percent

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/01/bush.poll/index.html”

“Heckuva job, Bushie.”

“Too bad this Bushie doesn't have a Potatoe rather than a Richard( fooled yah!).”

“You mean Dick Tater?”

“LMAO.”

“A group called the Presidential Memorial Commission of San Francisco has launched a ballot initiative that would rename a city sewage treatment plant the "George W. Bush Sewage Plant."

A petition is being circulated that would put the measure up for a vote in November. If it passes, it will rename the city's Oceanside Treatment Plant for the 43rd president of the United States.
[...]
Virginia-born activist and ordained minister John Rinaldi, a co-sponsor of the petition who ran unsuccessfully for mayor last year under his nickname "Chicken John," said the initiative would turn "every toilet in San Francisco into basically a shrine for George W. Bush and all his great achievements in his eight years as our commander in chief."

Rinaldi � flush with pride about the idea � said renaming the plant is "the highest honor available to us."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354706,00.html”

“That's right up there on the retard scale with the great Freedom Fry protest.”

“So, the french fries are a high% of the sewage?”

“Dubya let tax money go to waste, now waste can go to "Dubya".”

“You got it, if 'tax money' discribes a bond auction.”

““So, the french fries are a high% of the sewage?”
“Dubya let tax money go to waste, now waste can go to "Dubya".”
“You got it, if 'tax money' discribes a bond auction.”

Jesus christ, it's a nonsensical sandwich! Two people. Three posts and none of it makes a lick of damn sence. LOL!”

“LOL is the point of it............

I think it would take three people to make a sandwich.”

“Actually, I think the waste treatment plan is funnier than the freedom fries (as is MarkOs remark).”

“Nigal, in Frisco, freedom fries as the complement of french fries above would approach zero%.

Our tax money, will soon hardly pay the interest on the bonds we've sold in Asia, just so we can play 'Spig Bender and Tower Laxes'.

Advice; Don't lick sence, cents or funny scents, they have germs.”

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"Bad chewy chomp...chomp bomp a chewy chomp!"”

“Wow. King George was so upset over all the American troops dying in his needless war that he gave up golf! Ooooh, the sacrifice!!!

"For the first time, Bush revealed a personal way in which he has tried to acknowledge the sacrifice of soldiers and their families.

�I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander in chief playing golf,� he said. �I feel I owe it to the families to be in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal.�

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10314.html

Man, 1.20.09 cannot arrive quickly enough.”

“another typical american.”

“I agree. I would say Bush's comment falls right in line with what a lot of Americans think is a sacrifice.”

“nobody is being asked to nor expected to sacrifice except for our servicemen and their kin. Sacrifice is no longer a civic responsibility. hence the 6/10 % of americans who wear a uniform.”

“Worry about your own kids rosey, not some theoretical mom.”

“Birch, the reality is, we are all sacrificing. Maybe not in the way a soldier in Iraq is (well, they opted and are getting paid for it), but me, my kids, their kids and on and on are all going to be paying, in a variety of ways, for this escapade.”

“that isnt sacrifice, thats consequence. A sacrifice is a knowing and conscious choice to forgo something to aid another or a higher purpose. Not paying taxes( which is a legal obligation) isnt a sacrifice for your nation. What have you had to specifically sacrifice in support of the war or soldiers and their families?

Birch, the reality is, we are all sacrificing. Maybe not in the way a soldier in Iraq is (well, they opted and are getting paid for it), but me, my kids, their kids and on and on are all going to be paying, in a variety of ways, for this escapade.�
roseymonster

And I imagine that the vast majority of americans if asked would agree. But consensus doesnt make it a sacrifice.
last edited: 5/14/08 3:03:11 PM”

“but me, my kids, their kids and on and on are all going to be paying, in a variety of ways, for this escapade.

The selfishness in that hits me like a brick wall.”

“Point taken. However, I don't think of sacrifice as necessarily being voluntary. It's giving up one thing to better another, hence, the origin of the word from killing people or animals to appease a diety.”

“I doubt rosie is paying very much in taxes anyway.”

“hikenman,

the selfishness of the politique and, specifically, the current administration, is really what you should be concerned about.

bacpac, it isn't how much one pays but the principle of its use. Our funds are being misused. I never doubted you support this misuse.”

“I don't think of sacrifice as necessarily being voluntary

In the context of your post it is about a voluntary sacrifice. We certainly as a nation are not being involuntarily pressed into sacrifice, no draft, no war tax, no rationing. We are going on vacations, golfing, hiking and lamenting fuel costs but we are not a nation at war.”

“In your very sepcific examples, Birch, those sacrifices are not being made (yet). However, by that same token, moneys are being diverted to the military industrial complex from education, from healthcare, from infrastructure, from law enforcement, from, from, from, from...Maybe the affect is not immediately apparent, but for your kids it will be.”

“This is about as UNselfish of a war as has ever been. I get the feeling you would suggest all wars are selfish. The unwillingness to use our power to save people from an evil dictator would be much more selfish in my book. Feel free to add conspiracy theories to the discussion at any time ...

But, please don't compare your deeds to the sacrifice of our soldiers. That's downright mental.”

“Hikenman, there are dozens and dozens of dictators out there doing FAR worse things to people than Saddam did. Please don't insult my intelligence with the same, tired rhetoric (e.g. we rid the country of a dictator) that's been spewed endlessly. War is as selfish as it comes. We entered Iraq for selfish reasons, not some sort of altruistic behavior.

I was not comparing myself to the soldiers. I merely said we are all sacrificing.
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“War is as selfish as it comes.

By definition, huh? That's absurd.

We entered Iraq for selfish reasons, not some sort of altruistic behavior.

If you have some non-conspiracy theory inside information as to out intent, please share it with us. Speculation from your admitted anti-all-war-stance in inadmissable.”

“Rosey, I geuss we just view what sacrifice is very very very differently. Bill maher wrote a very interesting book about this subject called "if you are riding alone you are riding with bin laden". I dont agree with all of what he says but he articulates many of my points far better than me. he addresses your perspective/arguments very well.

The affect of this war is immediately apparent to me.Not one single day goes by that this war isnt part of my life. It has affected my family personally in many many ways and will continue to do so. It touches my professional life each time I work for a veteran,or deal with my employer, its has touched my personal relationships with friends in uniform and their spouses and those ho havent served. Sacrifice isnt a word or notion or lofty idea it is an action sometimes large somtimes small. We as a nation are simply not sacrificing for our soldiers. We dont even know them.”

“hear hear birch”

“We as a nation are simply not sacrificing for our soldiers.

Spot on, Birch. And thanks for the recommendation on Mahr's book. Lately, I haven't really enjoyed his show, but I should read his book.”

“Its a good read. some of the best satire I have read in a while. I havent enjoyed his show in years. If you read it, lemme know your take...”

“Very well said birch. One thing I have always admired about you is that you have never tried to use any of your personal experiences as a political tool for your personal views.

I have no doubt if Rosey actually did become effected or really did have to sacrifice he'd be in some ditch in Texas wearing sack cloth and ashes gnashing his teeth.”

“BTW- what is Rosey doing here any how? I thought his new home was over at Latta and he hated TT?”

“Being a hater is rosie's thing. He likes it.”

“I'm a lover, not a fighter. Gettin' ya steamed, Nigal? I'm the first to admit I've had a pretty privileged life, in the world spectrum. I'm willing to bet most, if not all, of us have.

Tell us about all the sacrifices you've made, Nigal. And changing bed pans doesn't count.”

“Rosie only hates Sarge because Sarge used to come here and post all kinds of fuego. Then rosey got kicked out but now he's back posting on all the gear and trip report threads like he wanted to all along.”

“Non, I think when Obama referred to bitter white people, he basically meant you.”

“Oh yeah, I'm as bitter as they come! LMAO!”

“Seek help.”

“Me steamed? Naw! I'm very adept at dealing with crazy liberals. I managed a group home for the mentally retarded for five years. There's nothing you could do ruffle my feathers.

I wasn't trying to start a 'sacrifice contest'. I was merely pointing out the fact that you don't know shyt. Big difference.”

“brahhahahahaah”

“Nigal, I bow to your oh so erudite ways...and fart in your general direction. Where would the world be without Einsteins like you using up the oxygen...”

“Farting causes global warming.”

“Stop talking, non.”

“Plus it'll get you fined:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=566617&in_page_id=1770&Thbbbbt”