Obama Lies

“I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms Obama

LIAR!

He voted to uphold local laws prohibiting individuals from owning firearms, including the prosecution of those who used firearms in self-defense. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2004 SB 2165, vote 20.”

“'He has pledged that if elected he will uphold your Second Amendment Rights.'

But do you see how this can be a contradiction in light of the fact that he supports city and local government banning guns. State and local government can not pass laws that violate the constitution as Obama has advocated. He has stated that inner cities should be gun free. Inner city dwellers are the ones who need the ability to defend themselves the most.”

“Does he talk in his sleep?

I've listened closely without a peep.”

“But do you see how this can be a contradiction in light of the fact that he supports city and local government banning guns.

Jimmy proved he's okay with racial double standards, so I'm sure he's okay with this one.”

“That does not even pass the passively agressive standard, double, triple or otherwise.”

“position it how you want but it is still a speculative statement. it can't be a lie until he acts contrary to what he has stated.

in the end nobody that might vote for him is going to care how he stands on second amendment rights. the wing-nut gun lobby isn't going to vote for him no matter WHAT he says. all he needs to do is avoid insulting the swing voters who, in my opinion, couldn't give a cat's crap about second amendment rights. pound sand all you want. it won't matter. his record can easily be positioned as supporting second amendment rights while offering common sense gun control. it will appeal to a lot of voters. he is a very smart politician.”

“he is a very smart politician.”
Yogisan
3:54:03 PM

I agree there Yogisan, what I do not agree with is how BO would run the Country, spend my taxes, allow me the freedom to seek life, liberty and happiness.
I think I will pick the other person.

Or as overheard in the cotton field "the lesser of two weevils".”

“Healthcare and education is not a constitutional right.
- nigal



The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”

“As I said before V, it's not that the Constitution says the government will gives us everything in it, just that they won't stand in our way of pursuing them.”

“he said "constitutional right" violin.”

“Yeah, forget the fact the 9th Amendment was intended to LIMIT government's powers, not give it unlimited powers as Violin's assertion would suggest.”

“Once again, libbies prove they are SILLY.”

“If Politician = Liar
And Barak = Politician
Than Barak = Liar”

“That's a given. It's all about whether he's your liar or not.”

“I have to admit their liar is good and probably hands down better than my liar. My liar is a bit more verbally clumsy and transparent while their liar is artful, articulate some would say hypnotizing. I could see their liar leading thousands of them off a cliff like lemmings with his lies. My liar probably won't get 3% of the vote. :(”

“Nigal, we're already over the cliff. Was that your other liar? Certainly wasn't mine.”

“The race between GM and F is neck and neck to borrow enough money for huge stock buy backs which will let them go private as the third Autoturd did. Gov. regulation will be sweeping the nation.

Big Oil running retail gas stations into Corporate buy backs , so they'll have outlets for EV battery exchanges or fuel cell down the line-control, that's all they want.
last edited: 7/01/08 6:17:39 AM”

“At the open , F down 4%, GM down 6%.”

“They lied about the Gulf of Tonkin 'incident'. � They lied about Iraq. � Millions died.

But let's raise hell about Obama's uncle.”

“Look at the bright side Tilt. At least they've stopped griping about Clinton getting laid.”

“Uh oh. Brack is supporting Bush's Religious-Right policies! This is sure to send liberals into convulsions.

Obama Plan Would Expand Faith-Based Program

With an eye toward courting evangelical voters, Senator Barack Obama arrived here on Tuesday to present a plan to expand on President Bush’s program of investing federal money into religious-based initiatives that are intended to fight poverty and perform community aid work. [...]

link”

“So much for change. That means he LIED! LOL”

“More separation of taxpayer from his money buy the church-state.”

“All this feigned moralistic outrage is simultaneously boring, junior high and amusing. So much bang for entertainment buck:)”

“O the humanity!”

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“Just a reminder for those interested in 2nd amendment rights (who are probably already voting McCain):

Illinois State Rifle Association Executive Director Richard Pearson Issues Open Letter to Nation's Sportsmen Regarding Obama's History in the Illinois Senate

CHICAGO, Oct 15, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- The following is the text of an open letter to the nation's hunters and sportsmen issued today by Illinois State Rifle Association Executive Director Richard Pearson:

Fellow Sportsman,
Hello, my name is Rich Pearson and I have been active in the firearm rights movement for over 40 years. For the past 15 years, I have served in the Illinois state capitol as the chief lobbyist for the Illinois State Rifle Association.

I lobbied Barack Obama extensively while he was an Illinois State Senator. As a result of that experience, I know Obama's attitudes toward guns and gun owners better than anyone. The truth be told, in all my years in the Capitol I have never met a legislator who harbors more contempt for the law-abiding firearm owner than does Barack Obama.

Although Obama claims to be an advocate for the 2nd Amendment, his voting record in the Illinois Senate paints a very different picture. While a state senator, Obama voted for a bill that would ban nearly every hunting rifle, shotgun and target rifle owned by Illinois citizens. That same bill would authorize the state police to raid homes of gun owners to forcibly confiscate banned guns. Obama supported a bill that would shut down law-abiding firearm manufacturers including Springfield Armory, Armalite, Rock River Arms and Les Baer. Obama also voted for a bill that would prohibit law-abiding citizens from purchasing more than one gun per month.

Without a doubt, Barack Obama has proven himself to be an enemy of the law abiding firearm owner. At the same time, Obama has proven himself to be a friend to the hardened criminal. While a state senator, Obama voted 4 times against legislation that would allow a homeowner to use a firearm in defense of home and family.

Does Barack Obama still sound to you like a "friend" of the law-abiding gun owner?

And speaking of friends, you can always tell a person by the company they keep. Obama counts among his friends the Rev. Michael Pfleger - a renegade Chicago priest who has openly called for the murder of gun shop owners and pro-gun legislators. Then there is his buddy Richard Daley, the mayor of Chicago who has declared that if it were up to him, nobody would be allowed to own a gun. And let's not forget Obama's pal George Soros - the guy who has pumped millions of dollars into the UN's international effort to disarm law-abiding citizens.

Obama has shown that he is more than willing to use other people's money to fund his campaign to take your guns away from you. While a board member of the leftist Joyce Foundation, Barack Obama wrote checks for tens of millions of dollars to extremist gun control organizations such as the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence and the Violence Policy Center.

Does Barack Obama still sound to you like a "friend" of the law-abiding gun owner?

By now, I'm sure that many of you have received mailings from an organization called "American Hunters and Shooters Association(AHSA)" talking about what a swell fellow Obama is and how he honors the 2nd Amendment and how you will never have to worry about Obama coming to take your guns. Let me make it perfectly clear - everything the AHSA says about Obama is pure hogwash. The AHSA is headed by a group of left-wing elitists who subscribe to the British view of hunting and shooting. That is, a state of affairs where hunting and shooting are reserved for the wealthy upper-crust who can afford guided hunts on exclusive private reserves. The AHSA is not your friend, never will be.

In closing, I'd like to remind you that I'm a guy who has actually gone nose to nose with Obama on gun rights issues. The Obama I know cannot even begin to identify with this nation's outdoor traditions. The Obama I know sees you, the law abiding gun owner, as nothing but a low-class lummox who is easily swayed by the flash of a smile and a ration of rosy rhetoric. The Obama I know is a stony-faced liar who has honed his skill at getting what he wants - so long as people are willing to give it to him.

That's the Barack Obama I know.”

“Obama voted 4 times against legislation that would allow a homeowner to use a firearm in defense of home and family.

I'd be interested in the details here. As you know, Mutt, the devil's usually in the details.

BTW, legislation doesn't keep people from defending their homes with guns. Legislation makes it harder to buy and legally maintain guns. I'm interested in his track record on this, but I think it's a little like your view on social conservative issues - other issues trump this - at least for me.”

“NRA Goes on Offense Over Obama's Gun Control Record
HELENA, Mont. - The National Rifle Association said Wednesday that Barack Obama's campaign is trying to mislead voters about his past support of gun control, calling the Democratic candidate "a poster child of the extremist, elitist gun control movement."

Associated Press

Thursday, August 14, 2008

HELENA, Mont. - The National Rifle Association said Wednesday that Barack Obama's campaign is trying to mislead voters about his past support of gun control, calling the Democratic candidate "a poster child of the extremist, elitist gun control movement."

The group was responding to recent remarks by Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer, a Democrat who supports gun rights and told reporters this week that Obama "ain't ever going to take your gun away." Schweitzer, who has the NRA's support in his re-election bid, added that there is little difference between the Democrat and Republican John McCain.

The NRA said Schweitzer was misrepresenting the candidates' positions.

"To somehow suggest (Obama) is supportive of gun owners because he says so when he is in Montana running for president is absurd," the NRA's Chris W. Cox said in a telephone interview from Virginia. "We are going to make sure that anybody that tells Montana gun owners that Barack Obama is not a threat to gun owners is exposed as someone who is not shooting straight."

Schweitzer said Wednesday he stands by his comments.

The Obama campaign said Schweitzer was right on the mark, noting the governor had said Obama is more outspoken than McCain on protecting hunting access to public lands.

The Obama campaign has stressed to Western voters that the candidate's support of "sensible" gun control won't get in the way of their traditions. But it has not released specifics on what type of gun measures Obama would deem sensible.

"The NRA is wrong to suggest we are misleading anybody," said Obama spokesman Caleb Weaver, adding: "Gun owners have nothing to fear from Barack Obama."

Obama has hired a staff and is running campaign ads in his quest for Montana's three electoral votes, hoping to be only the third Democratic presidential candidate to carry the state since 1948.

The NRA plans to spend $40 million nationally this campaign season, and has yet to determine how much will be spent in individual states.

Obama and a liberal congress means big trouble for gun owners”

“Obama voted for a bill that would ban nearly every hunting rifle, shotgun and target rifle owned by Illinois citizens.

Obama supported a bill that would shut down law-abiding firearm manufacturers including Springfield Armory, Armalite, Rock River Arms and Les Baer.

those claims seem a little far fetched and exaggerated...i'd be interested in seeing the bill”

“He also voted against the use of RPG's, Sherman tanks, and flame throwers.”

“look it up.

The FBI is investigating ACORN and their ties to the dems and Obama.

From the NY Times

F.B.I. Offices Examining Activities of Acorn
By MICHAEL FALCONE
Published: October 16, 2008

WASHINGTON — Several F.B.I. offices are reviewing reports of fraudulent voter registrations submitted by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or Acorn, a liberal community organizing group that has been under fire from Republicans.

But law enforcement officials sought on Thursday to ratchet down speculation that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had begun a broader investigation into the group’s activities. Some officials said privately that they were wary of being pulled into a highly partisan controversy so close to Election Day.

The officials said their investigation of Acorn’s activities would, for now, focus on reports of voter registration fraud that have surfaced in several states.

Acorn has acknowledged that some of its part-time canvassers have submitted false or duplicate registrations, and the authorities in about a dozen states have been looking into reports of suspect voter registration applications. The group says the suspect applications represent a tiny fraction of the 1.3 million new voters it signed up in this election cycle.

In a statement, Acorn said it had not been contacted by federal law enforcement agencies, and the group’s leaders expressed confidence that “any legitimate review of Acorn by any law enforcement entity — be it local, state or federal — will determine that the organization has conducted itself properly.”

Acorn’s top management is separately facing questions over its handling of the embezzlement of $1 million of its money by the brother of the group’s founder.

Republicans, including Senator John McCain, the party’s presidential nominee, have been highlighting the issue of voter registration fraud by Acorn in the final weeks of the campaign and seeking to tie Senator Barack Obama, Mr. McCain’s opponent, to the group. On Thursday, the McCain campaign portrayed the F.B.I. inquiry as a “nationwide investigation.”

At the presidential debate on Wednesday, Mr. McCain called for Mr. Obama to disclose the full extent of his relationship with Acorn, which Mr. McCain said was “on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country.”

Mr. Obama, who represented Acorn in a lawsuit in 1995 and conducted training sessions for the group, has been seeking to put distance between his campaign and the organization, and he did so again at the debate.

“It had nothing to do with us,” Mr. Obama said of the reports of the questionable voter registration cards. “We were not involved.”

Representative John Conyers Jr., a Michigan Democrat who is the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, sent a letter Thursday to Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey and Robert S. Mueller III, the F.B.I. director, expressing “shock and disappointment” that word of an investigation had leaked out.

“It is simply unacceptable,” Mr. Conyers wrote, “that such information would be leaked during the very peak of the election season.””

“Report Program Generator?”

“I see dood's been doing the google on the internets again.”

“He also voted against the use of RPG's, Sherman tanks, and flame throwers.�
Wounded Knee
11:46:40 AM
10/17/08

I heard he also banned high school boys from lighting their own farts.”

“Obama Lies?

Next thing you know, someone will be accusing violin and tilt of lying.”

“Barack Obama, campaigning in the key swing state of Florida, is seeking to capitalize on the excitement over the World Series-bound Tampa Bay Rays, telling a Tampa crowd he was �showing some love for the Rays,� several members of which joined him onstage.

Only problem?

Obama, a self-avowed Chicago White Sox fan, declared his allegiance earlier this month for the Rays� National League opponent in baseball�s championship, the Philadelphia Phillies.

On Oct. 11, Obama told a crowd in the City of Brotherly Love � the biggest city on the key swing state of Pennsylvania: �My White Sox are gone, so I�ll go ahead and root for the Phillies now.�

Yet in Tampa on Monday afternoon, where he was introduced by Rays players Fernando Perez and David Price, Obama also seemed to express support for the Rays, telling the crowd that he had just met with several members of the team backstage.”

“Obama said, that people shouted "things like 'terrorist' and 'kill him'." Making a death threat against a presidential candidate can be a crime. But even before Obama cited "reports" of the threats at the debate, the U.S. Secret Service had told media outlets, including NEWSWEEK, that it was unable to corroborate accounts of the "kill him" remarks�and according to a law-enforcement official, who asked for anonymity when discussing a political matter, the Obama campaign knew as much. Now some officials are disgruntled that Obama gave added credence to the threat by mentioning it in front of 60 million viewers. At this point in the campaign, said one, candidates will "say anything to make a particular point."”

“Well, as President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons. I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum." - Attorney General Eric Holder

Of course, to the ignorant, semi-auto rifles with assault weapon ergonomics are "assault weapons". Real assault weapons are select fire, and heavily restricted. This is a call for a ban on semi-auto rifles - the kind that thousands of sportsmen own and use for hunting, competition, and home defense.

As president, I will uphold the constitutional rights of law-abiding gun-owners, hunters, and sportsmen. [Obama]

this is a SPECULATIVE STATEMENT. it's what he says he WILL DO if he is elected president. it can't be a lie unless he is elected president and acts contrary to this statement.”
Yogisan
1:36:41 PM
6/26/08

Gee, who could've predicted that Obama was lying when he made that claim? Who could've predicted that Yogisan was a dipsh*t?”

“A real hunter needs only a single shot.”

“Never seen a deer with a Crips blue bandana.”

“Home defense?

Maybe "Fort Apache" is not a wise choice of places to live.”

“Sure, Mark - my carbine is for home defense. It's one of those scary "assault weapons". Like most law abiding gun owners, I ship it down to Mexico on a regular basis for use in the cartel wars.”

“Does your mom let you keep a thing like that loaded?
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“I always have one loaded and ready to fire up anytime. Ever had to look down the barrel of a ZigZag?”

“Can't say that I have, the barrel of my carbine was on the straight and narrow.”

“The purpose of the right to own arms is to own a military grade weapon so we wouldn't be downtrodden by our government. It was for the sole sake of hunting.”

“Does anyone who wants a semi-auto rifle with assault weapon ergonomics not already have one?

Or seven?”

“Seeing as how their sales have skyrocketed, i guess not, Kleetn.

It must bug the hell out of the liberal hoplophobes that electing Obama put more guns "on the street" than any conservative victory would have!”

“I suppose these well-armed crackers are going to take on the U.S. Infantry.

Those Chinese made assault weapons are a bargain.
Owning several is not a problem for Walmart shoppers.”