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OK I have used them and read the directions...so believe who you want...bottom line it is your pad not mine.

I know I am right.
last edited: 9/12/08 3:43:35 AM
sticks
3:43:27 AM
9/12/08

I've put a couple patches in. I thought one side had the texture of the pad itself(the outside), and the other side was smooth, and that's the side that got the glue.
ductape
4:28:22 AM
9/12/08

ok so thats 2 votes for smooth side down, 1 vote for rough side down. too bad i already did it rough side down
crash bang
4:51:18 AM
9/12/08

lol, did it work?

How big was the tear? I've fixed a couple of holes using just the glue, so which way the patch is facing may not even matter.
ductape
4:54:20 AM
9/12/08

I would think that the ruff side or the side that matches the pad should be exposed.
iceberg
5:18:11 AM
9/12/08

does anybody have any handy tips for keeping a thermarest underneath you through the night? As a side sleeper, I'm cursed to toss and turn and roll around a lot, and almost inevitably by the end of the night, I've accidentally pushed the thermarest right out from beneath me and am usually too tired, cold, or lazy to wrestle it back underneath me.

I've seen straps for sale, but that seems a little overboard... does anybody have any home remedies, other than popping a lot of pills so I sleep without moving?
pepsisformosa
1:56:31 PM
2/10/09

the best way to keep a thermarest under you is to stay over it
crash bang
2:00:37 PM
2/10/09

It happens to me to, no suggestions.
fingerlakeshiker
2:05:54 PM
2/10/09

you can run small strips of fiction tape along the sleepy pad, or buy a bag with a sleppy bag pouch in it.
birch
2:10:10 PM
2/10/09

Put seam seal on the bottom of the pad.
Wounded Knee
2:10:35 PM
2/10/09

velcro or you might be able to make a pouch on your bag
thriftyhiker
2:21:56 PM
2/10/09

I'll try the friction tape first and see how that goes. Sounds logical enough. Thanks
pepsisformosa
2:28:27 PM
2/10/09

when all else fails, duck tape
thriftyhiker
2:32:20 PM
2/10/09

staple gun?
birch
2:33:13 PM
2/10/09


last edited: 2/10/09 2:37:46 PM
thriftyhiker
2:38:26 PM
2/10/09

check out Big agnes bags.
windigrrl
3:22:25 PM
2/10/09

From the Thermarest site
9. Center patch over puncture/tear, shiny side down, and apply patch. Place a layer of plastic bag over the patch to prevent excess HotBond from sticking to bottom of pan. Firmly press on patch to assure a wrinkle-free surface.

http://www.thermarest.com/RepairKit_Instructions2.doc
SuperTroll
4:30:30 PM
2/10/09

as for staying on the pad, I use mine INSIDE the bag.....
SuperTroll
4:35:35 PM
2/10/09

I dont worry about it. If I flail off the pad, at some point, I will get back on it. NBD! Yo bear!
jerbear
4:50:14 PM
2/10/09

yo bear
masked marauder
5:13:04 PM
2/10/09

Have someone duct tape ya to it!!!
...just wrap the duct tape around you and the pad over & over & over & over.....

...that should work!!!!
divinity
5:17:18 PM
2/10/09

Duct tape can fix anything.
Stovie
5:18:48 PM
2/10/09

I dont worry about it. If I flail off the pad, at some point, I will get back on it. NBD! Yo bear!”
jerbear
6:50:14 PM
2/10/09


Flail???...I don't wanna know....
divinity
5:18:50 PM
2/10/09

here is the solution. the pad ain't going anywhere: lol
offtrack
8:40:15 PM
2/10/09

I kinda like the velcro idea just get a few strips of the kind with an adhesive back and put 4 on the tent floor in the approximate location they need to be and two across the top and bottom of your mat
mountainrocker
9:39:11 AM
2/11/09


i slept on a z-rest pad not too long ago. i was amazed at how well it worked.
Yogisan
5:47:28 PM
9/15/09

divinity
5:49:05 PM
9/15/09

Nice! I need a new sleeping pad.

A little out of my price range though. Oh well...comfort isn't cheap!
last edited: 9/15/09 5:27:53 PM
tenjen
5:50:57 PM
9/15/09

Where you been, just now discovering it?:) Nice, light and comfy.
hikerduane
6:47:21 PM
9/15/09

I may just get a hammock....
divinity
6:55:36 PM
9/15/09

I just used my NeoAir for the very first time this past wknd in the Dolly Sods Wilderness. Warmest, most stable pad I've ever used. It's also 2.5" thick and the lightest inflatable pad, too. It's everything that Thermarest boasts it is, and it blows big agnes pads out of the water!
lowandslow
8:27:37 PM
9/15/09

How much hot air does it take to inflate it?
Tango
8:55:42 PM
9/15/09

What - honest enthusiasm is not allowed on this thread?
lowandslow
8:59:16 PM
9/15/09



Very interesting reviews too.
Tango
9:14:36 PM
9/15/09

Of course it is...is joking not allowed at all anywhere any more???
Tango
9:15:34 PM
9/15/09

Tango
apologies for the obvious over-reaction
lowandslow
9:45:05 PM
9/15/09

No prob. Should've put a smiley! I'm pretty impressed. I am a horrible sleeper in the 'wild' so I am interested.

One reviewer said 17 breaths.
last edited: 9/15/09 9:31:03 PM
Tango
9:54:48 PM
9/15/09

I didn't count. It is a lot more work than either just unrolling a non-inflatable or undoing the valve on a self-inflating, but the comfort of a "blow up" pad is so far above the other two types that I haven't looked back after switching a couple years ago. The NeoAir is VERY pricy compared to other blow-ups, tho, so you pay a huge premium for the few ounces that you save over the other brands - if you think only in terms of the weight. I have to say tho, that after 2 nights using it (which isn't much- I admit), it seemed to be very warm and stable. However, it feels so fragile compared to my BA pad. I made very sure there was nothing sharp underneath it before I got into my sleeping bag.
lowandslow
10:24:31 PM
9/15/09

Bought a Neo a few weeks ago and used it 4 nights--the comfort is amazing! Purchased it a little longer than I needed and found that by gently curling the top 8" over, it makes a very comfortable pillow. Still irritates me though that they charge $14 for the stuff sack--at the price of the pad they should have included it. Otherwise though, I love it.
croft
3:41:36 AM
9/16/09

I picked up a stuff sack for under $10, a small Granite Gear brand for my small/short NeoAir. Takes about 11-12 puffs to get it full, but then I let a bunch out when hitting the sack.
hikerduane
6:22:17 AM
9/16/09

i saw them on the shelf at neptune mountaineering in boulder a few weeks ago. that thing costs the same as two new climbing cams! i just can't justify it. some day perhaps i'll find one used or on sale. it would have to be a lot cheaper. i would love to see big agnes come out with a competing product at 1/2 the price.
Yogisan
9:05:18 AM
9/16/09

Maybe I am missing something. I just looked a BA Aircore is $94.95 for a reg size. A small Neo is $119. I don't think it is that much of a diff. Now granted I did not shop around for the BA so it might be cheaper elsewhere. I do think it is very cheap not to have the stuff sack included with the Neo.
Tango
2:51:21 PM
9/16/09

hehehe Cascade designs Rocks Yogisan. Maybe Santa will buy you one!
Refrigerator
3:26:16 PM
9/16/09

that's because you are a shortie tango and can fit on a short. lol! the medium pops for 1-hundo fourty and two cams are about 70 bucks if you find a sale. i need the cams. i especially want a set of c3 camalots... :)
Yogisan
5:01:47 PM
9/16/09

...and no fair comparing a regular sized BA to a small sized neo. apples to apples you would compare the reg ba aircore to the med neo.
Yogisan
5:04:25 PM
9/16/09

Santa is comming to town
Refrigerator
5:06:37 PM
9/16/09

camalots... :)

You are right Yogisan!
BA med 27 ounces $95
Neo med 13 ounces $140

With my back probs may be worth it.
Tango
5:21:44 PM
9/16/09

for sure. my wife (who appreciated your advice very much) has been doing better in a hammock... so i sleep on the ground now when she comes out to camp... which is pretty much never.
Yogisan
5:29:22 PM
9/16/09

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