McCain picks Palin

“That would be a great ticket!

McCain appeals to so many different types.”

Violin
9:09:21 PM
3/10/04”

“�I can only speak for myself but I'm an independent. I could care less about party. Principled leaders of good conscience are hard to find and deserve everyone's support.

I don’t know how many of you caught McCain and Biden on ‘Meet the Press’. They disagree with each other – I disagree with both of them on many issues – but they treat each other with respect. McCain made a call to end the partisanship that is making it impossible to reach any sort of consensus. Democracy can only work through compromise.

That's why a Kerry/McCain fushion ticket could be exactly what this country needs. I know it's only a dream.�

Violin
4:04:43 PM
5/20/04”

““You can email Speaker Hastert at dhastert@mail.house.gov or call him at 202-225-2976 and remind him who John McCain is.

Let him know that only a sanctimonious dickhead would think to lecture a man who spent 5½ years as a POW”

Violin
10:26:09 AM
5/20/04”

“The more I see John McCain in action, the more I like him.

I just wish we had 99 more like him.”

chili36
7:24:25 PM
3/10/04


“He's Hell On Wheels, isn't he?”
Tilt
7:54:25 PM
3/10/04”

“"I voted for McCain in the 2000 primary, although by that time he had no chance whatsoever of winning. I voted for Bush in November. I will vote for Kerry this election. If McCain runs in 2008 against Kerry, I will have some thinking to do.

McCain is, above everything else, a highly principled man. In politics these days, that is both unusual and something to appreciate.�

Geobeet
8:24:45 AM
8/06/04

....

�Hey No Prob, what's your take on the candidate for the family values party who dumped his first wife after cheating on her for a younger hotter richer woman?

Hint: Clinton and Edwards are not on a national ticket this election.�
Geobeet
9:25:07 AM
8/29/08”

“You people are funny.
Do you READ the stuff you post?
No way in he11 could you stand to vote for a Repub in 2008.
You expouse too much hate toward any Repub.

StoveStomper
1:22:20 PM
3/11/04”

“Yep. McCain turned to #&%!$ since then.

Or are you brain damaged?”

“Pedxing, as always, what you have contributed to my education has nothing to do with your intentions.

You haven’t answered my questions.

1. Are you a Keynesian, pedxing?
2. Do you think Obama’s economic proposals will improve the long term condition of the economy? Specifically, which proposals?


You lack a desire for meaningful communication. You want to express your ideas while you ignore those of others. You miss opportunities for education by your inability to admit mistakes. I’ll bet you’re voting for change this year aren’t you?


“Who were the last two Presidents to submit a budget without a deficit?”
pedxing
12:04:47 PM
8/29/08

What is the point here? You list two Democrat presidents, Johnson and Clinton. I’ll list Abbott and Costello. I enjoyed their comedy routines very much. You’ve made no point. You’ve wasted time with meaningless nonsense. It’s déjà vue all over again.

The truth is that Democrats have created a budget deficit every year they’ve had a majority since 1970.

And how about those “Bush tax cuts”? Please educate us all about the Constitutional means by which this happened?




Obama with a Democrat congress. That’ll fix the economy once and for all.
last edited: 8/31/08 9:38:01 PM”

“Account for a republican control of congress from 1993 to 2007 and spending , LMAO. I'm a part of neither of these two gangs and want no part of either.”

“Neither am I salebord. I've never voted for either a Rep or Dem for president in my life.

But it doesn't change the truth that Reps actually produced a surplus for 4 of 8 years they controlled both houses.

Nobody's ever convinced me to compromise my principles by voting for the lesser of two evils. But, for deficit government spending, it's obvious which party is worse.”

“yup, he ran under (R)”

“tilt, the principals mentioned in 2004 by the conservatives that mccain was missing are the SAME one you guys started mentioning when he announced he'd run on his own ticket. McCain hasn't changed. Your biased perception of him has because you're so heavily influenced by that R & D by the candidates' names.”

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“"I told Congress, thanks but no thanks on that bridge to nowhere," Palin told the cheering McCain crowd, referring to Ketchikan's Gravina Island bridge.

But Palin was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it.

The Alaska governor campaigned in 2006 on a build-the-bridge platform, telling Ketchikan residents she felt their pain when politicians called them "nowhere." They're still feeling pain today in Ketchikan, over Palin's subsequent decision to use the bridge funds for other projects -- and over the timing of her announcement, which they say came in a pre-dawn press release that seemed aimed at national news deadlines.

"I think that's when the campaign for national office began," said Ketchikan Mayor Bob Weinstein on Saturday.

Meanwhile, Weinstein noted, the state is continuing to build a road on Gravina Island to an empty beach where the bridge would have gone -- because federal money for the access road, unlike the bridge money, would have otherwise been returned to the federal government.

http://www.adn.com/sarahpalin/story/511471.html”

“Alaska's former commissioner of public safety says Gov. Sarah Palin, John McCain's pick to be vice president, personally talked with him on two occasions about a state trooper who was locked in a bitter custody battle with the governor's sister.

In a phone conversation Friday night, Walt Monegan, who was Alaska's top cop until Palin fired him July 11, told the Daily News that the governor also had e-mailed him two or three times about her ex-brother-in-law, Trooper Mike Wooten, though the e-mails didn't mention Wooten by name.

Monegan claims his refusal to fire Wooten was a major reason that Palin dismissed him. Wooten had been suspended for five days previously, based largely on complaints that Palin's family had initiated before Palin was governor.

The events surrounding Monegan's dismissal currently are under investigation by the state's legislature. Palin has acknowledged that a member of her staff phoned a trooper lieutenant in an effort that could have been perceived as pressure to have Wooten dismissed and that her husband and other officials also had contacted Monegan about Wooten.

http://www.adn.com/politics/story/510080.html”

“Like I said - great pick!”

“You're just jealous cause she's way hotter than Biden.”

“How does a governor withhold emails from an investigation like this trooper business claiming Executive Priveledge? � LMAO

I guess that's the Executive Experience the Republicans are parroting about.”

“Come on guys! Only a sanctimonious dickhead would think to lecture a man who spent 5½ years as a POW””

“Violin hates women.”

“If McCain deserves to be President in return for being tortured by the North Vietnamese, what about the guys at Abu Ghraib?

Oh, that�s right�. they �kinda looked like� the guys from 9-11�.”

“sanctimonious dickhead

(violin's words, btw, not mine)”

“Once again tilt holds muslim extremist terrorists above Americans.”

“What I'm curious about is why these people go to all the trouble to set up troll identites and then blow their own cover in less than a day.

To demonstrate their skill at some sort of 'cowardly ineptitude'?

Why would anyone in their right mind do that?”

“
� Nevermind....

� � � � � I answered my own question.

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“sure, change the subject.

typical”

“
� � � � http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/

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“Don't you just love it when the sanctimonious (dickehead or otherwise) let their own words demonstrate what true whack-jobs they are? LMAO!

Yep. McCain turned to #&%!$ since then.

tiltTiltBLAM
12:04:45 AM
9/01/08


If McCain deserves to be President in return for being tortured by the North Vietnamese, what about the guys at Abu Ghraib?

Oh, that�s right�. they �kinda looked like� the guys from 9-11�.�
tiltTiltBLAM
9:12:48 AM
9/01/08

And my personal favorite from Latta:

Posted by: Tilt (IP Logged)
Date: August 31, 2008 09:40AM

Yeah, they're pretty effective at that... keeping poorer people placated with the anti-gay stuff, the anti-abortion stuff, #&%!$ing about 'prayer in schools', evolution etc., while they cut their programs then give tax cuts to the richest 1%.

PS --- Palin is a Woman as Clarence Thomas is Black.

(That last bit belongs on Tilt's Classic quotes!)”

“Arc - I don't know where you draw the line on what a Keynesian is or isn't. I definitely believe there are times that government activity can help the economy and stimulate demand. I think that activity that creates national assetts is the best place to do it - like doing long neglected infra-structure repair.

It also seems like that has its limits, and that we run the risk of long term distortion and corruptions of the economy. I was not pleased with the "Splurge" - mailing out rebate checks to stimulate the economy. I agreed with Huckabee on that one. I would imagine a real economic libertarian would have opposed it as income redistribution disguised as a tax cut.

Obama's economic plans? I'm waiting for a clearer picture of what they are. Maybe I need to do more research.

As for the Bush tax cuts, not all power is written in the constitution. If you remember, Bush promised them, ran on them and fought for them. He lobbied congress hard for them and he got them. If he had wanted something else, given the pliancy of Congress at the time - he would have got them, to.

This is why it matters when the President submits a balanced budget. The recommendation of the President counts for something, both because of the constitutional power of the veto and the authority as head of state and head of the party. A President, especially one as popular as Bush was after 9/11 has the power to campaign for members of his party and to campaign agains members of the other party according to the extent to which they support or oppose his agenda.

So, its totally ridiculous to act as if the President is simply an innocent bystander as deficits rage out of control, or simply along for the ride when things go well. Obviously Congress can be recalcitrant to a Presidents efforts, sometimes this pushes for a balanced budget as when Democrats pushed the first Bush to raise taxes or when Republicans resisted Clinton's attempts to increase spending.”

“I know we are off topic here, but one interesting and confusing thing about the budget deficit is that the "deficit?" number is almost always lower than the change in the national debt. So while the size of the reported deficit has shrunk a lot since 2004, the national debt continues to increase at about the same rate.”

“Obama's economic plans? I'm waiting for a clearer picture of what they are. Maybe I need to do more research.

Obama has proposed 188 new spending proposals. Of these 188 111 actually have a price tag. The other 77 have indeterminate costs. If these 111 that do have a cost were enacted they would cost $1.4 trillion over five years. How much is that?

*It is 10-% more than Bush had secured for 2009.
*It is 60% more than any single year spending increase.
*It is more than the budgets of 42 states combined.

Even after Obama enacts the tax increases he has promised it will only raise $255 billion over five years which falls far short of paying his bill of $300 billion a year. Who do you think will get to pay the rest?”

“Uh oh! What great timing. Palin's 17 year old daughter is preggers.

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Sep01/0,4670,CVNPalinDaughter,00.html

I call immaculate conception...
last edited: 9/01/08 12:02:15 PM”

“Ya think she planned the timing?”

“I highly doubt it because she's like seven months along.”

“I think Cheney's daughter got her pregnant.”

“Good job McCain did a proper vetting on her then.

I feel sorry for the girl on this one. It's totally unfair for her to come under the spotlight on this one. Maybe her mother should have thought of this before putting herself in the brightest of spotlights.

Palin herself was happy to hold up her son's military record, 'joining 9/11, going to Iraq 9/11' for political gain (unlike McCain I must say) now the lets the wolves into her family and she has to protect her daughter.

It just looks like an incredibly bad piece of judgment by McCain.”

“good grief.”

“Uh, they knew this would be announced (and it was, by them, less than 3 days of the vp announcement). What's the problem? They already decided they can take it, as was discussed in their preliminary meeting with McCain.

If this is what the left is going after, the teenage daughter of the VP nomination, then the tie McCain has with Obama will shortly be bipassed for a McCain win.

lol”

“Have you looked at the polls for the last week?”

“Yeah, apart from the economy, the war with Iraq, the credit crunch, global warming, a failing and increasingly costly healthcare system, inflation, gas prices, foreign policy failures, Iran, Russia, Georgia, public spending, the national debt..... apart from all this and more.... this is all the left has.

I just think it's a little depressing. Hopefully they'll leave her alone, I'm sure they will. I wonder how this ties in with the abstinence message of the god guns and babies brigade though ;o)”

“Of course we have Sargie.

Roughly nine weeks before Election Day, a new CNN poll of polls shows Barack Obama holding a five point lead over John McCain. Only four days after Obama’s acceptance speech and three days after McCain’s pick of Sarah Palin as his running mate, Obama is now ahead of McCain, 49 to 44 percent.”

“Maybe you should adksomebody in the brigade and try to really see where they're coming from instead of just trying to prove their way wron alk the time without listening first?

So, you're blaming McCain, Palin, or her daughter for that laundry list of CBS headlines?”

“Nope, I'm saying that a vote for McCains means more of the same failings. Agrees with Bush 90% of the time. If you want a third Bush term then vote McCain, it's as simple as that.

It's hard to conceive that McCain knew about this, but then I suppose it's hard to believe that Palin wouldn't have mentioned it. If he did then they needed to get this out the way ahead of the announcement of her VP slot - not announce it on what would have been the first day of the convention, or to try to slip it past when Gustav blows through.

The question then comes, if he didn't know, why didn't he know. Rash snap decision as many suspected after others turned him down. Doesn't say much for his judgment as president does it.”

“http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/31/cnn-poll-obama-49-mccain-48/

CNN poll, from yesterday
Obama 49, McCain 48
+- 3 points

huh???”

“Tracker polls, they average out all the polls they have to try and give the broadest sample size.

And to be honest the Obama Campaign is only just starting to wind up again. He took some time off when the battle with Hillary was won, and that seems to have let McCain back in with his negative message.

I think we're going to see the polls open up somewhat, though no one will know for sure until election night.”

“Nope, I'm saying that a vote for McCains means more of the same failings. Agrees with Bush 90% of the time. If you want a third Bush term then vote McCain, it's as simple as that.

# You are talking about Maverick, the hero of the left for telling the Republicans to shove it, right? LMAO!

It's hard to conceive that McCain knew about this, but then I suppose it's hard to believe that Palin wouldn't have mentioned it. If he did then they needed to get this out the way ahead of the announcement of her VP slot

# They said they knew. Hoe Could he announced it before saying who the VP is! That's absurd. Nobody cares about this except the lefty bloggers and their fans. (including Katie, I Just Waxed My Legs, Couric.)”

“Oh, "tracker polls". CNN's tracker poll? You said CNN. Their poll says "statistical dead heat".”

“Some one is obsessed with Couric's legs.”