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last edited: 11/07/08 7:01:42 AM
Y2
7:02:55 AM
11/07/08

Yogi, you might send a complaint letter to McCain's staffers. They're the ones describing her that using many of the terms you listed.

And to be brutally honest, if the shoe fits.....
kleetn
7:05:10 AM
11/07/08

you mean besides obtaining a college education, besides finding an holding down jobs, besides being elected for 2 terms as a mayor and as a governor? You mean besides fighting corrupting in Alaska and helping to bring down the heavyweight offenders? You mean besides helping get an ethics law passed in her first term as governor? You mean besides running a household while she does all this? You mean besides maintaining a large and loving group of friends? You mean by giving a convention speech as rousing as any speech obama has ever given?

Just because she may or may not be ready for the presidency at the time, that doesn't mean the rest of her life can be negated.
hyway
7:09:25 AM
11/07/08

All quite impressive, for sure. I still cannot understand how one who does not know Africa is a continent could possibly hope to run this country. Sorry.
kleetn
7:13:01 AM
11/07/08

They'll fall for anything.
Tllt
7:15:57 AM
11/07/08

we'll see in two years when we revisit this thread.
Yogisan
7:21:39 AM
11/07/08

You mean besides being a slick politician, besides stoking the fires of racial prejudice/hatred at campaign rallies, besides spewing nasty invective and calling her opponent a communist/socialist/traitor/un-American.

Just because she is an ignorant reactionary and quite un-American herself, that doesn't mean she's not a good mom.
MarkO
7:21:49 AM
11/07/08

I am arguing against the idea that she isn't a "smart, articulate, capable woman".” I am not talking about whether or not she, or even obama, can run this country. I am just asking what does someone have to do to be considered capable? She has proven herself capable in everything she has endeavored to do. I would think she has had to be smart to achieve what she has, unless of course we are now setting the smart bar at the Mensa level now (i thought that was the genius bar). And with the excepting of a few taped and edited interviews where she was balancing being herself and not saying anything that McCains handlers didn't want to say, she has always shown herself as very articulate.
hyway
7:23:55 AM
11/07/08

Don't hate, congratulate!
I don't believe any of this "anonymous sources" crap. I think there's been a mole in the McCain camp the whole time. Plus the McCain campaign was a joke. Palin is the kind of change we need. Away from Washington insiders, speaks the truth, has integrity, the most popular Governor over 1/5 of the land in the US, not beholden to either party's leadership. Insiders, elitist, and intellectuals(like you guys) on both sides fear, and therefore, loath her.

HATERS!
stratd00d
7:47:40 AM
11/07/08

Ah, Stratdood is of the blame McCain camp rather than the blame Palin camp.

Do you whistle hail to the chief when you see Obama on TV Strat?
Y2
7:54:04 AM
11/07/08

I try to, but then it always morphs into the storm troopers theme music from star wars.
hyway
7:55:40 AM
11/07/08

lol..... Obama as Han Solo.... I can see that.

Ohhhh, you meant the other way.

You're telling me that John McCain isn't the emperor? And Dick Cheney isn't Darth Vadar?
Y2
7:58:58 AM
11/07/08

Hate is not a family value, Y2
The Republican party needs a barn cleaning. To purge itself of the old, stale guard. Replacing them with people who aren't afraid to just say what they believe and stick to it.

Yes Y2, I believe this "Palin's an idiot" stuff is complete BS. That's my opinion. The media never makes any attempt to analyze these rumors, or check them out and report the truth, they just tell us a bunch of "tips" as if it's all absolute fact. None of it can be verified. And people like you slurp it up gleefully....

As you can see,Phaedrus taught me critical thinking...
stratd00d
8:02:05 AM
11/07/08

ummm, McCain is a senator, Cheney is a lame duck vice president. Obama is the president elect and therefore now controls the stormtroopers.
hyway
8:03:23 AM
11/07/08

Jan 20 Hyway.... Jan 20.
Y2
8:05:37 AM
11/07/08

I don't know if the Palin stuff is true (although some of you apparently know for sure) so I'd like to hear her own response. But, as I said previously, it sounds like an under-the-bus move by the McCain camp.
Nonconformist
8:07:32 AM
11/07/08


They lost. people are pointing fingers and protecting turf and they see the coming battle for the republican party. I expect to see a lot more infighting, but it will dry up when the new congress takes office.
hyway
8:10:07 AM
11/07/08

I watched the interviews with the woman. It wasn't like she was being asked questions that were out-of-bounds, she was just so completely unaware of anything outside her narrow frame of reference that she failed. Miserably.

Couple this with the budgetary mess in her time as Mayor of Wasilla, and the ethics violations of her short time as governor, and you get a pretty clear picture of someone who is absolutely unfit to lead.
Phaedrus
8:13:59 AM
11/07/08

nothing like tearing down someone you don't know, have never met, and doing so based on the word of people that are biased and full of venom and hatred.

two more years...
Yogisan
8:18:40 AM
11/07/08

hahaha, she had one ethics violation of not curbing her friends and families attempts to right a wrong. Obama is surrounded with questionable ethics, yet you turn a blind eye.
hyway
8:21:47 AM
11/07/08

“nothing like tearing down someone you don't know, have never met, and doing so based on the word of people that are biased and full of venom and hatred.

two more years...”
Yogisan
6:18:40 AM
11/07/08


You mean like judging her based on her OWN words in response to questions any federal official should know?
last edited: 11/07/08 8:20:19 AM
Phaedrus
8:23:29 AM
11/07/08

“hahaha, she had one ethics violation of not curbing her friends and families attempts to right a wrong. Obama is surrounded with questionable ethics, yet you turn a blind eye.”
hyway
6:21:47 AM
11/07/08


Are you seriously trying to compare the two?
Phaedrus
8:26:15 AM
11/07/08

ethics wise? hell yeah. Obama is pretty damn unethical.
hyway
8:28:59 AM
11/07/08

Okay, I'm up for this. What do you have?

Let's start with the fact that Sarah Palin was found guilty, by bipartisan ethics committee, of abusing her power as Governor of Alaska.

The report, released after a two month investigation, found that Mrs Palin was motivated in part by a personal grudge when she fired Walt Monegan, the police chief, after he failed to dismiss her brother-in-law, who had been involved in an ugly divorce from her sister.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4924041.ece
Phaedrus
8:32:51 AM
11/07/08

nothing like tearing down someone you don't know, have never met, and doing so based on the word of people that are biased and full of venom and hatred.

two more years...
Yogisan
8:18:40 AM
11/07/08


Errrrr, isn't this what politics is all about.

On the same basis how can you praise and defend someone as smart when you don't know her.

If you're going to take this line - then surely the answer is 'none of us know what she's really like?'
Y2
8:36:03 AM
11/07/08

What a joke! McCain's people are pointing the finger and confirming what everybody who bothered to vet Palin alreay knew, which begs the question; why did McCain choose her and not vet her. Duh! From this thread one can begin to understand; he bought the Palin hype.
Geobeet
8:36:32 AM
11/07/08

She was a sick joke.

For the sake of the nation I hope she's gone for good.

For the sake of the Party, you better hope she's gone for good. If she does makes a comeback the Republican Party will spend an added decade in the wilderness.
Tllt
8:42:15 AM
11/07/08

well, at least you acknowledge that's what you are dong. it's a start.
Yogisan
8:42:29 AM
11/07/08

phaedrus, there is no point discussing this. Obama's poor ethics have been discussed many times but the left doesn't care about them. They only care about troopergate and books. You have your unethical president elect. be happy
hyway
8:46:03 AM
11/07/08

And you have your unsupported opinions. Be blissful.
Phaedrus
8:47:24 AM
11/07/08

well, at least you acknowledge that's what you are dong. it's a start.
Yogisan
8:42:29 AM
11/07/08

Well I guess if this allows you to pretend that she's Saint Sarah then good for you.
Y2
8:47:59 AM
11/07/08

your self delusional spouting of hatred doesn't allow me to do anything.
Yogisan
8:49:27 AM
11/07/08

phaedrus, do you really think there haven't been a shady practices of Obamas pointed out? the election is over, there is no point to bring them out again. I just thought, and now I am wondering why, that you were one of the left who had thoughtful opinions and could see teh faults on both sides. I guess I must have been thinking of someone else.
hyway
8:53:51 AM
11/07/08

Seriously, Hyway, nothing has been pointed out to me by anything that I've read, or by any of my conservative friends (who are just too happy to point many, many things out)that in any way leads me to believe you can correlate Obama and Palin on an ethical level. Sorry. If you feel I'm wrong, feel free to post some evidence, but I'm not convinced.

The Ayers stuff is kooky, the Acorn stuff was a smokescreen, the muslim ruse was a weak smear, and the birth certificate stuff is most likely certifiably insane.

If I missed something that caused you to believe he's unethical, please feel free to point it out.
Phaedrus
8:58:05 AM
11/07/08

your self delusional spouting of hatred doesn't allow me to do anything.
Yogisan
8:49:27 AM
11/07/08

Ok, well lets get down to details then Yogi.

What about the Couric interview. How do you explain her responses to the Russia question - and to the bailout question? You were happy with those answers?
Y2
8:58:09 AM
11/07/08

If I missed something that caused you to believe he's unethical, please feel free to point it out.
Phaedrus
8:58:05 AM
11/07/08

I think you're missing the logic at work here Phaed.

Obama is a liberal - liberals lie and cheat - Obama is a liar and a cheat - Obama is ethically challenged.
Y2
8:59:19 AM
11/07/08

She's got my vote.

Heck, I'd vote for W. 2 more times!

I'm part of what makes this country mostly red, from a geographical perspective.
toejam
9:03:11 AM
11/07/08

Anyway, signing off to do my part for the economy. Have good one!
Phaedrus
9:04:43 AM
11/07/08

she is governor of alaska?

what have you done with your life?

sounds pretty smart to me.
Yogisan
9:16:31 AM
11/07/08

Bye bye Cararbie.
salebored
9:36:38 AM
11/07/08

you can pick your friends but not family



Bristol Palin's Future Mom-in-Law Arrested!
Posted by ExtraTV Staff on December 19, 2008 9:19 AM


The mother of Bristol Palin's fianc was arrested yesterday in Alaska on drug charges! The Anchorage Daily News says Sherry Johnston, mother of Levi Johnston, was charged with six felony counts of misconduct involving a controlled substance.

Levi and Bristol, both 18, are expecting a baby and have made plans to get hitched. Gov. Sarah Palin's father, Chuck Heath, said in a recent interview that Bristol is due this Saturday.

The Palin camp told the Anchorage Daily News, "This is not a state government matter. Therefore the governor's communications staff will not be providing comment or scheduling interview opportunities."

Politico reports Johnston has been released from the Mat-Su Pretrial Facility on a $2,000 bond.
The Dutchess of Road Kill
11:12:22 AM
12/19/08

PALIN 2012!!!!!!!!
Y2
11:28:09 AM
12/19/08


Cut Sherry Johnston some slack.

If you were about to be family with that whack-job, wouldn't you start using?

Heavily?
VioLiN
11:39:17 AM
12/19/08

Cut Sherry Johnston some slack.

If you were about to be family with that whack-job, wouldn't you start using?

Heavily?”
VioLiN
11:39:17 AM
12/19/08

Hmmm, good point, hopefully they put her on suicide watch.
Y2
11:50:13 AM
12/19/08

Haha! The misfortunes of others is funny!
Nigal
11:51:31 AM
12/19/08

What about this counts as misfortune?
Y2
11:55:10 AM
12/19/08

Oh.... getting caught you mean?
Y2
11:57:35 AM
12/19/08

They are extending the Pacific Crest Trail to end on Sarahs Russian View front porch.
salebored
12:07:41 PM
12/19/08

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