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There's been a lot of back and forth about moderation on trail talk. I've gotten many emails both from people requesting more and less moderation. But I feel like you haven't all had the chance to hear each others' points of view outside the context of very specific situations, and as a moderator, I would like to get a better feel of what the priorities are for current tt users. Please use this thread to comment on how you would like to see the future of tt moderation take shape.
Thanks :)
elise
11:29:59 AM
11/05/08

well I prefer a bustier shape, but in this case I'll go with less is more.
hyway to hell
11:36:18 AM
11/05/08

Elise, why don't you join us on one of the trips next year... Your travel expenses would be cheap...

http://www.thebackpacker.com/trips/trip/1616.php

'32oz
32ozgatorade
11:40:18 AM
11/05/08

you can unban mapleleaf
The Dutchess of Road Kill
11:41:24 AM
11/05/08

You cannot provide even handed moderation unless you constantly monitor the board and understand the context of why things are said. Therefore, my suggestion is no moderation at all, other than the breaking of rules such as giving out personal information or making personal threats. There is an abundance of "group-think" on this site, so just because a lot of people are complaining, it doesn't mean they are not the instigators. Those same people often lie about their intentions, and it isn't until later they admit it, or on another website, such as Latta.

So basically, leave things as they have been recently.

One more thing, you need to do something about torlls. People like Hiker19b4. This has been a longstanding rule on trailtalk and it hasn't been enforced lately. You don't need context to see that violators. And don't just ban the torll itself, but the person behind the torll. In this case, roseymonster.
last edited: 11/05/08 11:46:07 AM
Hiker1984
11:42:43 AM
11/05/08

What a can of worms this thread will become.

1. Allow only one screen name per poster.
2. Better communication about banning.
3. Less tolerance for name calling and personal assaults.
thriftyhiker
11:47:19 AM
11/05/08

I have a better idea. Do away with fuego. It seems to be the source of a lot of hostility and much provoking by many.
last edited: 11/05/08 11:47:13 AM
roseymonster
11:47:19 AM
11/05/08

Institute afternoon naps
hyway to hell
11:48:45 AM
11/05/08

Can you only allow Republicans on this site..Silly libbies hate america
Wounded Knee
11:49:02 AM
11/05/08

wait, make that only fiscal conservatives and yellow dog democrats
hyway to hell
11:50:07 AM
11/05/08

I started to post that as well rosey but "fuego" is just a label. Flaming will go on whether it has it's own category or not. I don't have a problem with a section for discussions on politics or other controversial topics but it's when it gets vile that turns me off. There are some posters that can ignore that vileness when posting to other threads and there are some posters that carry it with them from thread to thread.
thriftyhiker
11:50:10 AM
11/05/08

Can I have the popcorn please.....
The Dutchess of Road Kill
11:50:11 AM
11/05/08

If you do away with fuego, then people like Tilt will start posting "information" on other threads---like he did at Latta. If you do away with fuego, which is fine with me, then you need constant moderation.
Nonconformist
11:50:48 AM
11/05/08

this place was better before the ultimate fighting cage was set up. Get rid of feugo and make everyone accountable to everyone for what they say. You'll see less blood being spilled.
hyway to hell
11:52:15 AM
11/05/08

Exactly! The libbies will stir things up and I will have to tell their moms
Wounded Knee
11:52:56 AM
11/05/08

can I have maplelaf back please :)
The Dutchess of Road Kill
11:53:32 AM
11/05/08

It's ridiculous to "okay" a flame on one thread, only to "poo-poo" a retaliation on another, as if the retaliation was worse than the unprovoked flame in the first place. That kind of absurd mentality has to stop. Are people somehow married to certain threads, and others it's fine to crap on? Apply directly to the forehead.


*** Also, make the Ignore Tis User completely hide their post, without saying it's hidden. If somebody doesn't want to hear my political beliefs, they shouldn't be tempted to peak.
last edited: 11/05/08 11:56:09 AM
Hiker1984
11:54:39 AM
11/05/08

Ban slurs against squirrels.







AND BAN DUNADAN!
kleetn
11:54:57 AM
11/05/08

To sum things up:

Fuego Sucks
Maple is desperate
WK is a silly libbie

but in all seriousness i wouldn't cry if fuego were gone either but (sadly) i'm sure you probably get more hits from that category than any other
thriftyhiker
11:57:00 AM
11/05/08

dune banadan
hyway to hell
11:57:09 AM
11/05/08

I have a better idea. Do away with fuego. It seems to be the source of a lot of hostility and much provoking by many. - roseymonster

It's amazing - people have the ability to turn fuego off. They even have the "ignore this user" button. But it's still not enough for people who need Mommy to hold their hand on the Internet.
Mutt
11:57:34 AM
11/05/08

I propose moderation by live wolves
hyway to hell
11:58:05 AM
11/05/08

I will be happy to accept the position as site moderator. Please send pay information and we'll talk.
Nonconformist
12:00:22 PM
11/05/08

What Mutt said....

It's amazing how refreshing it is to not to have to see th fuego threads..

Elise, is there anyway to include an automatic spell check feature, mu spellen ain't real well....


'32oz
32ozgatorade
12:01:02 PM
11/05/08

use firefox and then don't ignore the misspelled words
hyway to hell
12:02:06 PM
11/05/08

There has been very little moderation that I have noticed. Other than banning certain names, which really did nothing to solve any problems they may have created, I haven't seen much moderation. And I like it that way.

Just hold people to the rules you have already set up if you intend to effectively moderate. Keep the fuego category, otherwise that crap will get posted all over the place. I keep it turned off for a reason.

Oh and if you could add an instant message feature, that would be great. We have to go over to latta for that.
last edited: 11/05/08 12:02:37 PM
Creek Dancer
12:03:12 PM
11/05/08

It's amazing - people have the ability to turn fuego off. They even have the "ignore this user" button. But it's still not enough for people who need Mommy to hold their hand on the Internet.”
Mutt
2:57:34 PM
11/05/08


again, the issue isn't fuego itself, but how people act on it...i'd love to particpate in some of the fuego topics but people are so nasty it's not even fun sometimes

1. Allow only one screen name per poster.

...and more on this point. When you try to log on to most sites and you can't remember your pass word or ID they have an option right there to email to get the correct ID and password. That would be nice here. With that in place the only reason someone would want to try to make a second ID is for trolling.
last edited: 11/05/08 12:05:35 PM
thriftyhiker
12:05:19 PM
11/05/08

I would like to see more photos of people having sex in a pool
Wounded Knee
12:06:57 PM
11/05/08

1. i change my mind. keep fuego.

2. limit one handle per user email. if they currently have multiple, ask them which one they want to use and dump the rest.

3. do not allow any hate speach. this should be the only moderation.
roseymonster
12:08:47 PM
11/05/08

I would like you to force WK to post 1 serious post a week. ;)
last edited: 11/05/08 12:06:44 PM
thriftyhiker
12:08:50 PM
11/05/08

un ban mapleleaf.

who is with me on this?
The Dutchess of Road Kill
12:11:03 PM
11/05/08

WK - I prefer the whale pics in the pool.

Signed,

hyway.
dayhiker
12:12:05 PM
11/05/08

I agree with Dutchess/mapleleaf.

unban all names except torlls
Hiker1984
12:13:00 PM
11/05/08

wow I knew you loved me :)
ok i got one vote, any one else?
The Dutchess of Road Kill
12:13:54 PM
11/05/08

UNBAN MAPLELEAF! UNBAN MAPLELEAF!
Creek Dancer
12:14:20 PM
11/05/08

LOL - now that TT has a thread where people can feel all self-important about voicing their opinions, the election talk has pretty much stopped.
Mutt
12:14:32 PM
11/05/08

rosey says to ban tilt and his hate speech. I second that
hyway to hell
12:15:47 PM
11/05/08

Very ass-toot, Mutt.
roseymonster
12:16:53 PM
11/05/08

“I think that you should force people to sign their posts.. it's a pain in the butt to have to look all of the way over to the right to see who posted...

Also, you need to moderate the college football thread.. there are people over there who should be banned from posting on that thread..

sincerely,

hiker1984”
32ozgatorade
12:17:32 PM
11/05/08

UNban Mapleleaf.

Seriously. She's persistent. Just do it.
spindlette
12:18:35 PM
11/05/08

thats TWO


darn slackers
The Dutchess of Road Kill
12:18:47 PM
11/05/08

Keep DORK... let Mapleleaf RIP..

'32oz
32ozgatorade
12:19:35 PM
11/05/08

also, unban Sarge. He belongs here, like mapleleaf. Just fix the Ignore feature so people will use it. Ban torlls. One ID per person.

You can't effectively moderate personal assaults. For example, y2 is constantly telling other people what they think, and using patronizing speech. A person should be able to respond to that appropriately since it's not something you, as a moderator, would probably delete & punish. Don't try to be the moderation Lord.
Hiker1984
12:19:41 PM
11/05/08

Thanks, but I don't advocate banning anyone in particular, Highway.
roseymonster
12:20:43 PM
11/05/08

On second thought, ban Sarge.
last edited: 11/05/08 12:26:40 PM
roseymonster
12:22:26 PM
11/05/08

shut down the site - there's so little discussion of actual backpacking here anymore that it's pointless.
Mike P
12:22:38 PM
11/05/08

Unban Mapleleaf.


And elise, why won't you let me see our love child?
lumberzac
12:23:11 PM
11/05/08

we need more TP in the toilet and someone has left a messy clog in stall number two. can you get someone on that
hyway to hell
12:23:49 PM
11/05/08

Come on MikeP.. It is kinda entertaining.. Besides at least on this site people actually post trips...

'32oz
last edited: 11/05/08 12:23:49 PM
32ozgatorade
12:26:01 PM
11/05/08

sorry rosey, I went to far. You just want to stifle his voice.
hyway to hell
12:27:02 PM
11/05/08

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