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Backpack for Europe Question
“Hey, I will be backpacking Europe for 33 days and staying strictly in hostels. We are traveling to Dublin, then going to London, Paris, Belgium, Amsterdam, Munich, and a few places in Italy. I am a male, 6'1" and am thinking about a 6,000 cu in backpack, but what do you more experienced travelers think? Thanks!”
“For all of europe? I think italy will be tuff to stuff in side with that boot shape”
“Haha very clever. But I am looking to buy a backpack online tonight and could use some "useful" info. But great laugh.”
“How much ammo are you planning on taking?”
“You are going to need a much bigger backpack for Europe.”
“Sorry to beg the question here... but it depends on how much you want to carry. Staying strictly in hostels you could probably do it is a day pack if you did laundry on a regular basis.”
“I was planning on taking 3 light pairs of clothes and a pair of jeans, nothing too extravagent, so I will be doing laundry in hostels. This is my first trip, and my girlfriend was recommended to get a 2,750cu in backpack, but she is only 5"1." This is the backpack I am looking at, the Alpine 70+10
What does everyone think?”
“Personally I would listen to your girlfriend. I carry ~4000 cu/in for backpacking including shelter and all the food. But knock yourself out.”
“Do you think 4000cu/in is enough for 33 days?”
“Do you think 3 changes of clothes and a pair of jeans is enuf for 33 days? What else are you planning on taking? I suppose toothpaste and a toothbrush _could_ take it up to 6000 cu/in but I doubt it. Anyway... knock yourself out. It's your stuff and you need to carry it.”
size does matter
“How big do you NEED? Only you can determine your need. I used a 1 lb pack for 3 weeks on the JMT with all my stuff. For Europe, where you can buy stuff if you need to, I'd use a day pack and do laundry. NEED is determined by personal fear of privation + desire for luxury. Only you know that. Trust your instincts, take a moment to listen to yourself.”
“Ok, how about this. What size backpacks did you use for a Eurotrip if you went?”
“with all due respect... assuming this is not a troll I think you are going about this all bass-ackwards. First never buy your first backpack on line. That is asking for a mis-fit cause you have no assistance in terms how the thing should fit. Secondly.. set out what you plan to take and find out how much room _you_ need to fit all that stuff in there. Go to a brick and mortar store that knows about backpacks... not Wal mart or Target.. and invest some money in a high quality useful piece of equipment that suits _you_.
If you end up with 6000 cu/in and 80# of gear well so be it... have fun. If you end up with 1400 cu/in and 10# of gear well how you gonna keep that in one place in a pack the size of a small house trailer.”
“Thanks for the help, but I asked "What size you used for a Europe trip." I realize I need comfort, packing space, etc. I am not buying a backpack from walmert or Taraget, but then again, I am not going to spend $300 on one for a one-time use.”
“treyrab, just ignore ramblin"rev". He's so predictable, always trying to solve other people's problems when he can't even solve his own. As soon as I read your thread title I knew the fake rev would be answering with "depends what you want to carry", entirely missing the point of the question. Sure enough! there he is! lol. typical
Look, the guy can't hike from his car (when it's running enough to get him to the local park) to the first set of trees viable enough to hold his hammock (which he's too out of shape to get into, even if it were hanging).
You're better off asking a girlscout.
You need to rephrase your question, and let somebody else, like Eurohike (a poster on here) answer it.
"Are there any special considerations I should be taking into account if hiking Europe when selecting what to pack?"
BEYOND that, you'll either need to take somebody else's packist and use that (not recommended), or get enough experience to determine how yoy personally like to pack on a long trip. Nobody will feel like they can tell you how to pack, hense the ridiculpus answers you're getting.
If you want, ask the general question, "What do you pack, and what is your bag size, on a monthlong trip?"”
“Okay Sarge .... you win.... Have a nice life.... I'm done”
“You're not done. You'll have to set things straight.”
“Blabber is making the lipstick run.”
“hi Treyrab. Just an FYI, but you should have much better luck inquiring at a more travel-oriented website.
The 'backpacking' you're asking about isn't at all like the backpacking this site is about (hiking with everything you need on your back for miles and miles, possibly over mountains, etc). Like I use a 2800 cubic inch pack, but it has Everything in it including food and water.
If you're not going to do the backcountry thing, I wouldn't think you'd have to worry so much with how comfortable or lightweight a pack is, etc. It's not going to be on your back for hours at a time under those conditions. For example, you might be better off with something that has wheels along with the option to carry on your back for relatively short distances (and probably save your self a couple of hundred bucks in the process).
Who's the guy on PBS who does all the travel shows... Rick Steves? He's big on travelling fast and light and I'm sure he's got a website. That might be a good place to look.
“mmmm...how about a roll-lugage?
The backpack I use if I travel across Europe (traveling with rail, bus, plane), is the same I use for hiking and backpacking in the wildernes. The only difference is what I pack in, depending on if I travel in wildernes or from town to town.
My backpack is 55l + 10liter.”
“The Euro Girl knows what she's talkin' aboot.”
“10 litres for the top pocket?
Lessee.... that'd be almost 4000 cubic inches altogether (allowing for a couple of extra semi-fancy outfits and Shoes to match).... or 0.2726 hogsheads.... or 17,583 drams.”
“Thanks for the responses! I will start looking at packs asap for my trip!”
If you are staying strictly in hostels, you aren't going to need a very big pack..
I used a Osprey Talon 44 (2750 ci) pack for 7 days. I carried a REI Quarter dome, a 40 degree bag and 7 days of food... Total weight 31 pounds...
Have my eye on the Granite Gear Lattitude 3800 ci for my next pack//
“I would go with a 5000 ci pack or around this mark. This is a good size in general and you don't have to fill it all up. Get a pack with good suspension and good lumbar support. You prolly won't need all 5000 ci for your europe trip but if you plan to reuse it for backpacking later this is a good size for trips of a week or more depending on how you pack and where you go. I use my 5000 ci pack for a week in the grand canyon every year and I have no problems making it work. I have likewise used it for weekend trips. Just don't let all that extra space trick you into filling it with junk you don't need and you will be fine. There are many good pack vendors with fine products in your price range. Check out the gregory forester. This is the one I have. It always seems to go on sale at some point and of all the packs I have for all the styles of hiking I do this pack gets the most play. Good luck and let us know how it goes.”
“Well if your Girlfriend is 5'1" and needs 2750cu in. and you are 6'1".
73/61 = 1.2
2750 * 1.2 = 3300 cu in
But on you clothing list you might want to think about a rainjacket or small umbrella.
All joking aside 3300 cu in would be plenty.
6000 would give lots of room to carry souvenirs.”
“I am not sure that everyone on this thread understands that "backpacking across europe" isn't the same thing as backpacking the AT. The guy will be using trains, buses, boats, and maybe some trails. "Backpacking across Europe" is just vacationing in Europe without a car.
Also, I don't understand the idea that staying in a hostel means you don't need a big backpack. The dudes, not going to be using a bounce box. Just because he isn't sleeping in the woods doesn't mean he doesn't need a backpack big enough to carry all his stuff. His backpack will essentially be a suitcase with straps. Heck, staying in hostels he will probably be carrying more stuff than we do staying in the woods since we don't have access to electricity.”
“"since we don't have access to electricity.”
...or showers. We just grow smelly in the backcountry. Wearing the same cloth for days.”
“Dufffel Bags are great.
“you hike w/ a duffel bag??
“By the way, for all airplane travel I recommend a backpack that has it's own cover for the shoulder and hip straps. Or even better, buy a large, sturdy bag in which you can put the backpack. Or else the risk is you may get your pack back, torn up, because some of the straps got stuck somewhere on the conveyer belt. Also the guys stowing the luggage may grap the pack on any strap they can get hold off and tear it off.
A torn backpack sucks. Particulare if it happens right at the begining of your vacation. Happenend to my brother. The backpack was torn up, beyond repair. And it happened at the beginning of the trip.
I have already seen more than one sad backpack, arriving on the conveyer belt, ripped and spilling it's content onto the conveyer belt.”
“Ya might want to beat the rush and get your own HOSTAGE HOOD and Blue Track suit or is it orange jumpsuit now? (LOL).
And remember take your VISA and your Canadian Passport, cause in Europe they won't lift a finger to help Americans and they don't take the Infidel's American Express.”
“...in Europe they won't lift a finger to help Americans and they don't take the Infidel's American Express.”PanchoVilla
No of course not, if you are traveling under the cover name of a chihuahua bandit! Who would take your Amex then? Taco Bells?
last edited: 12/01/08 7:56:32 AM”
“My problem with the huge backpack is that your personal investment (including all the contents) is larger, not to mention the hassle of dragging many pounds of stuff from place to place. If it was me?.. I'd carry enough for about 5 days, assuming that I'd put up with doing laundry about once a week. (kind of like zero days on the trail).
My inclination would be to bring as LITTLE as possible with me for several reasons:
1) It's easier to lug around less. Even if all I am doing is hauling it from the trail to the hostel -- I'm still lugging around a bunch of stuff (and chances are, I'm lugging around a lot of stuff when I am sight-seeing).
2) If it gets stolen. I won't care as much, cos I'm only out a week's worth of stuff instead of a month's. (and if it does get stolen, it will be easier to find me a replacement backpack while I'm wandering around Europe.
3) I think part of the fun of backpacking across Europe would be to purchase some (replacement) clothing along the way. If I'm already carrying a ton of stuff with me, that pack just got even heavier.
4) I'd hate to advertise that I'm a tourist. I'd prefer to carry something like any other local student might carry, rather than flag (like a big neon sign) every vendor and thief that I'm here.
Just my thoughts.”
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