Cant walk with Jesus Hike

“Cant make the dec 6th Jesus hike, so I created this one for the following weekend!

The plan is to hike the northern section of the Knobstone-starting at Delaney Park-between 7-10 miles each day. Final route planning to be determined/flexible depending on turn out.

-Friday night camping is avialable
-This route is pending a trail conditions report-subject to change.
-Map link to be posted soon.



Warning: this trail can be very rigorous over tough terrain; and Winter hiking/camping posses additional risks that may be dangerous. Hike at your own risk.”

“Attila, Thanks, for the invite. I won't be able to make this one, but have a good hike!”

“gawd i would love to but i will still be recovering from my surgery.”

“I thought this was going to be a hike across the lake ---- everyone else bring swim trunks.”

“sorry, cant make this one. Next time. Yo bear!Merry holidays”

“Thanks for the invite! I can't make it. I will still be working on my remodeling job then. I'm hoping to get out closer to christmas, either right before or between christmas and new year. Let me know if you're interested.

John”

“that invite feature on the trip page is slick-I wasnt sure it was working.

Yogi-hope its nothing serious,get well soon.
IJ keep me posted, Id like to get to the German Ridge Trail sometime
Catch ya later HikinMachine and jerbear

Attila”

“It doesn't work very well if the TTer has changed addresses since he joined TT. ;-)”

“atilla, check out these micro spikes at www.kahtoola.com. yo bear!”

“thanks Bear Ill check em out!

Stovie do you know if the invite feature works if people keep thier email addresses up to date on the site? or not.”

“I like the micro spikes there Jer Bear looks like they would work do they stay on or do you know?”

“does anyone know if those micropspikes are more durable than the yack trax? randal said some of his yak trax have broken quite easily”

“they melt pretty easily too”

“I think those spikes would last longer than the Yax Trax Pros I got, seems like we outta see more of them out there. Let me know how they work out!
See ya later.
Randall”

“these spikes are well worth the buck and are very well made. easy to put on. great traction.”

“Yak Trax are now available on QVC in 7 new colors. I kid you not.”

“Are you base camping or backpacking?”

“noooooooooooo dont let her talk you into car-camping the whole thing!”

“wish i could go. sometimes i have a difficult time with Jesus... or God... or maybe it's just God...”

“I'm not trying to talk him into car camping. I just wanted to know what's going on. That way, if I go, I will know which tent to bring. Everything else stays the same.
Are you going down on Saturday Morning or Friday Night?”

“im doing whatever attila is doing”

“Carpacking-just kidding-back packing. Will probably head down friday nite. Ill know for sure on that by tomorrow.

-Still looking at the map for best route,but was thinking the 9 mile route from delaney park to spurgeon hollow lake to camp. Or continue towards Oxley memorial (Im not sure if the path towards Oxley is very scenic or not-never been that way).”

“Are you talking about doing both the Delaney Park Loop and the Spurgeon Hollow Loop? Are you thinking of caching water or looking for it on the trail?
last edited: 12/07/08 9:28:23 PM”

“Yes both loops. starting at delaney, heading north,then around the bottom loop to spurgeon hollow lake to camp. (skiping the connector loop section)

-I just planned on using lake water, and using one of crash's boots to break through any ice there may be! Ha. JK crash”

“And if Crash's boot doesn't do it, we can throw him in to break the ice, j/k. There's a nice camp spot just past the Trail head of Spurgeon Lake, but right before you get to the loop part of the trail. I'm sure there are others, but that's the only one I remember in that area, lol.”

“Atilla,
Try his head instead, it's certainly hard enough and he don't use it anyway!! LOL!!
Damm I'm funny!!
See ya later.
Randall”

“does anyone know anything about trail closures?”

“yes, sometimes when trail conditions are bad, they close them...that's all i know”

“go bug sarge”

“but seriously, i don't see why any of them would be closed...we haven't had any bad weather in a long time...i'd call the ranger”

“for logging, not weather”

“Part of the Delaney loop was closed due to logging when we were there in October. Don't know about now.”

“is there anybody that DOES know?”

“Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject: Delaney/Spurgeon Timber Mgmt Reply with quote
Due to Timber management in the area, the connector trail in the Delaney/Spurgeon loop area is closed until further notice. Once the timber management is done, the trail will re-open.

Hiking through this area on October 13, there are several areas where Timber Mgmt will be harvesting trees. Notably along the creek bed approaching Spurgeon”

“yeah I read this on the dnr site Ill post it later....but basically the spurgeon hollow loop portion is closed, and the Eastern part of the delaney loop is open but re-routed.

So if we start at delaney we'll have to go around the northern loop area then head down the southside, then head towards Oxley memorial trialhead instead of spurgeon hollow lake as I had planned. Unless we bushwhack to a camp site around spurgeon hollow lake, which looks quite lengthy/arduous from that part of the trail-
Ill post the web link of the re-route and closure area”

“whats the address of the dnr site?”

“heres the link below. We could take the re-route and head towards Oxley trailhead area- see numbers 40 and 39 on the linked map below
-I need to go now but will be back in a few.


http://www.state.in.us/dnr/images/or-knobstone_closed.jpg”

“

11-07-08 update. The following trail sections have been cleared:
The direct path from Delaney Trailhead to the Spurgeon Trailhead (about three miles)
The shortcut between the Delaney loop and the Spurgeon Loop.
The re-route around the timber harvest area (see map below)
From the New Chapel trailhead to mile marker 19.5
From Deam Lake trailhead to mile marker 10.5

It looks like the reroute is along an old mail route road.
last edited: 12/08/08 6:13:47 PM”

“does that look like a paved road?”

“It looks to be West Point Rd. On the map I have, this is one of the roads to take to get from one trail head to another. However,I've don't think I've ever driven on the part that looks like where the trail has been rerouted. My guess is that it is paved. The road goes right by where the 41d mile maker is as well. It might be a good place to cache some water since there's no way to get near Spurgein Hollow Lake. Are you looking to set up a shuttle?”

“Friday
High: 41 °F RealFeel®: 36 °F
Considerable cloudiness
Friday Night, Dec 12
Low: 31 °F RealFeel®: 17 °F
Partly cloudy and breezy

Saturday
High: 47 °F RealFeel®: 39 °F
Breezy with more clouds than sun
Saturday Night, Dec 13
Low: 35 °F RealFeel®: 30 °F

Sunday, Dec 14
High: 48 °F RealFeel®: 43 °F
Cloudy”

“wasnt planning to shuttle. Probably just hike point to point. Not exactly sure on the points yet. I have a call in to the ranger to find out if the conector trail is open stil (45a-44d).”

“I believe that part is now open. The section between 41s to 43s is still showing closed. It would be great if they had that section open by now. Good luck getting someone to call you back. I've never had much luck with them.
last edited: 12/08/08 9:21:02 PM”

“Marko: Thanks for the invite. I'd like to get back to the KT soon, but this weekend is out for me... Office Christmas Dinner party weekend. Have fun, stay warm.”

“hey golfhiker catch ya on the next one

crash does your email work? can you head down friday nite.”

“yea, i can head down friday nite. sorry i forgot to email you”

“I confirmed the info we already had about trail section status today. The
reroute and closed section still remain. The north part of delaney loop may have
some blowdowns, but the rest of the trail sections below have been cleared.
Some route possibilities are below. Im partial to choice 3.

Windi do you think you're going to make it? Looks like we'll be camping close to a trailhead one way or another.

1. delaney north loop, using connector trail, to spurgeon hollow lake=aprox 7
miles (numbers: 47,46,45,44d,44,43s)
2. delaney north loop, reroute, towards oxley, and camp near Arnold creek-aprox
8 miles. (#s:47,46,45,44,reroute,41,40)
3. start at delaney, use connector trail to reroute then on to Elk creeek
lake-aprox 13 miles. (#s: 45s,44d,reroute,41,40, on to elk creek lake)
4. delaney north loop, to rereoute, then bushwhack to spurgeon hollow lake.
aprox 9 miles”

“so, what is closed exactly?”

“here's my suggestion: elk creek trailhead to delaney (about 14 miles) with a water cache at new cut road (just north of mile 38). we would have to camp at delaney and shuttle around in the morning.


but i'm not at all adamant about it. the only thing i insist on is that we're hiking the majority of daylight hours

i like the idea of bushwacking, but one problem. if the north is anything like the south, the stickers are TERRIBLE”

“now i see you already mentioned doing delaney to elk creek that would be even better since we could shuttle fri nite and start hiking from delaney sat morn

good call, bruh”