Cold Cold World

“Anyone have any experience with their packs? I’m looking at the Chaos for winter and late fall backpacking.

http://www.coldcoldworldpacks.com/chaos.htm”

“SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA - December 8, 2008 (OWSweather.com) Rare 50 year Arctic Blast Sets Sights On Southern California.
With a week away, and a sure sign of things to come, OWSweather.com is making preparations on the server to handle the traffic from this next event. UJEAS is in line with the majority if not all the other models in keeping a near historical arctic air mass into the Southern California region.
With a warm November, Southern California is finally ready for cold storms to make their way in. Resort level snow will be likely next week, and in pretty hefty amounts if things stay on track. OWSweather.com Meteorologist Kevin Martin predicts a 50 year event. While Martin is usually conservative on these events, the pattern highly favors it. "We are in a pre-1950 type pattern, "said Martin. "We know we are due for a winter storm sometime this year. The type we may be dealing with will be ranked up there with the known years before 1950, which set record low daytime temperatures into the forecast region. With this, may come low elevation snow."
Forecaster Cameron Venable is seeing very cold temperatures in the Los Angeles areas as well. Torrance is not usually known for winter weather, thus making this an interesting event for Venable to track.
"Temperatures in Siberia, Russia will be -81 degrees this week, "said Martin. "With those type of temperatures the arctic air mass has to spill somewhere. Our answer of the exact track will become more clear this week. All residents in the mountain communities should prepare this week for very cold, winter weather, with snow."
Indications are a second, colder storm could hit near the 18th-22nd time-frame. The details on that will have to be sorted out.”

“Save it for fuego, this is a gear thread.”

“whoopsie daisy!”

“silly fueghead”

“I'm sure it was an honest mistake [rolls eyes].

Zac, looks to be a light pack. I don't know how much weight I'd want to put in it (winter gear tends to add up) without a plastic backsheet for support. Just my $.02.”

“That was actually one of my concerns. I'm going to want to load one up before I buy. We're talking 12 lbs for skis, snowshoes, crampons, and ice axe. That's before the extra clothing, food, and cold weather sleep gear.”

“Hve you looked at the ULA-Equipment Catalyst? It has an internal frame, but is still light. I've been able to get my winter gear in it. It was full though, lol.
http://www.ula-equipment.com/catalyst.htm”

“Hey Zac,
I use the Chernobyl (3000 c.i.) as a winter technical daypack. It's simple and bombproof but because of it's rugged construction it's not particularly light. I would recommend it and am considering getting the Chaos also.”

“LZ,

Surfing around and found this thread. Did you ever get the CCW Chaos? Can you e-mail your thoughts? pcraft1964@gmail.com”