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Ammunition Accountability ActView Messages“http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm Relating to firearms and ammunition; to require handgun ammunition to be coded; to require, under certain conditions, the disposal of all non-coded ammunition owned by private citizens or retail outlets; to require the Department of Public Safety to establish a statewide database to track coded ammunition manufactured and sold for handguns; to require ammunition vendors and manufacturers to register with and provide information to the Department of Public Safety; to provide for a fee to establish and maintain an ammunition coding database; to establish the Code Ammunition Fund in the State Treasury; to provide for civil and criminal penalties; and in connection therewith would have as its purpose or effect the requirement of a new or increased expenditure of local funds within the meaning of Amendment 621 of the Constitution of Alabama of 1901, now appearing as Section 111.05 of the Official Recompilation of the Constitution of Alabama of 1901, as amended. BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF ALABAMA: Section 1. The Legislature of Alabama finds all of the following: (1) Each year in the United States, more than 30 percent of all homicides that involve a gun go unsolved. (2) Handgun ammunition accounts for 80 percent of all ammunition sold in the United States. (3) Current technology for matching a bullet used in a crime to the gun that fired it has worked moderately well for years, but presupposes that the weapon was recovered by law enforcement. (4) Bullet coding is a new and effective way for law enforcement to quickly identify persons of interest in gun crime investigations. Section 2. As used in this act, the following words shall have the following meanings: (1) CODED AMMUNITION. A bullet carrying a unique identifier that has been applied by etching onto the base of the bullet projectile. (2) HANDGUN. Any firearm with a barrel less than 16 inches in length, or is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand. (3) HANDGUN AMMUNITION. All ammunition principally for use in pistols, notwithstanding that the ammunition may also be used in other firearms, including bullets used for reloading or handloading pistol ammunition. Section 3. (a) All handgun ammunition manufactured or sold in the state after January 1, 2009, shall be coded by the manufacturer. (b) No later than January 1, 2011, all non-coded ammunition used in a handgun, whether owned by private citizens or retail outlets, shall be disposed of. Section 4. (a) The Department of Public Safety shall be responsible for establishing and maintaining an Ammunition Coding Database (ACD) containing the names of manufacturers and vendors and the data the manufacturers and vendors are required to record pursuant to subsections (b) and (c). (b) Manufacturers of handgun ammunition offered for sale in this state shall register with the department in a manner prescribed by the department through rule. Manufacturers shall maintain records specifying the unique identifier for all coded ammunition for all sales, loans, and transfers of ammunition, to, from, or within the state, shall transmit the information to the department within 10 business days, and shall retain the information on the business premises for seven years. (c) Vendors of handgun ammunition in this state shall register with the department in a manner prescribed by the department through rule. Vendors shall record the following information for each caliber of coded ammunition in a form prescribed by the department: (1) The date of the transaction. (2) The name of the transferee. (3) The purchaser's driver's license number or other government issued identification card number. (4) The date of birth of the purchaser. (5) The unique identifier of all handgun ammunition transferred. (6) All other information prescribed by the department. (d) A vendor of handgun information in this state shall maintain the records required by subsection (b) on the business premises for a period of three years from the date of the recorded purchase and shall remit the information on each transaction collected pursuant to this subsection to the department within 10 business days. (e) The ACD shall be built within the framework of existing firearms databases. The ACD shall be operational no later than January 1, 2009. (f) Privacy of individuals shall be of the utmost importance. Access to information in the ACD shall be reserved for key law enforcement personnel and shall be released only in connection with a criminal investigation. Section 5. (a) Any vendor that willfully fails to comply with, or falsifies the records required to be kept by this act shall be guilty of a Class B misdemeanor. (b) Any manufacturer that fails to comply with this section shall be liable for a civil fine of not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000) for a first violation, not more than five thousand dollars ($5,000) for a second violation, and not more than ten thousand dollars ($10,000) for a third or subsequent violation. (c) Any person who willfully destroys, obliterates, or otherwise renders unreadable, the serialization required pursuant to this act, on any bullet or assembled ammunition is punishable by imprisonment not to exceed one year, and a fine of one thousand dollars ($1,000). Section 6. (a) Establishing and maintaining the ACD shall be funded by an end-user fee not to exceed five thousandths cent (0.005) per bullet or round of ammunition. (b) There is hereby established in the State Treasury the Coded Ammunition Fund for deposit of the end-user fees pursuant to subsection (a). Moneys in the fund, upon appropriation, shall be available to the department for infrastructure, implementation, operational, enforcement, and future development costs of this act. (c) Ammunition manufacturers based within this state shall be allowed a one-time corporate income tax credit for the cost of purchasing ammunition coding equipment. All applications on the credit shall be submitted to the Department of Revenue by January 1, 2009. The State Department of Revenue shall adopt rules to provide for the one-time tax credit pursuant to the Administrative Procedure Act. Section 7. This act shall become effective on the first day of the third month following its passage and approval by the Governor, or its otherwise becoming law. last edited: 1/15/09 12:31:30 PM” 12:49:57 PM 1/15/09 Here's you change you wanted.... “Land of the imprisoned, home of the cowards” 1:03:03 PM 1/15/09 “why do you hate accountability, strat?” 1:04:01 PM 1/15/09 “whatever why are you gay?(not that there's anything wrong with that)” 1:06:54 PM 1/15/09 “Go try to buy wine or been at your local Target. They require a scan of your drivers license. Gawddamn Obama.” 1:07:17 PM 1/15/09 “I will protect us, and give Crash a roundhouse kick to the head. ”1:22:00 PM 1/15/09 “This retardery was started by 3 guys who patented a way to laser etch serial numbers to bullets. They tried to get ammo manufacturers to implement this, and were promptly laughed out into the street. So, these douchebags wrote up some legislation and had it introduced to state legislatures in "accountability for the children" clothing. They just want to profit off this. You can read about it here: http://www.seattleweekly.com/2008-03-05/news/three-seattle-guys-want-to-bar-code-bullets.php There are many reasons why it wouldn't work....” 1:24:43 PM 1/15/09 “other gun / ammo news.... Holder: Gun-control options ‘narrowed’ Posted: 03:36 PM ET WASHINGTON (CNN) — Attorney General-designate Eric Holder conceded during his confirmation hearing Thursday that the government’s options for regulating the possession of firearms have been narrowed in the wake of the Supreme Court’s 2008 ruling that the Second Amendment ensures an individual right to bear arms. “Reasonable restrictions are still possible,” Holder said, including measures such as a ban on the sale of what are called “cop-killer” bullets. But, he granted, “we’re living in a different world” since the high court’s 5-4 ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller. Holder said that he previously viewed the Second Amendment as a “collective right” to bear arms, not an individual right. The Heller ruling, Holder said, was a “very significant opinion.”” 1:27:13 PM 1/15/09 “The ammo coding legislation was introduced to a bunch of state legislatures, including MO, and they all shot it down.” 1:31:40 PM 1/15/09 “Change, Change, change to a POLICE STATE.” 1:34:57 PM 1/15/09 “Amazing isn't it but the same people who want to restrict private ownership of weapons...(distinctly included in the Bill of Rights) Are also the same people who routinely oppose presentation of "identification" to vote in Federal Elections (not included any of the founding documents).” 1:40:50 PM 1/15/09 wah! i want my guns! wah! “ ”1:42:32 PM 1/15/09 “Reasonable restrictions are still possible,ďż˝ Holder said, including measures such as a ban on the sale of what are called cop-killer bullets. *facepalm* Thanks, Obama.” 1:43:11 PM 1/15/09 “you got evidence to back that up, xl?” 1:43:15 PM 1/15/09 ““The ammo coding legislation was introduced to a bunch of state legislatures, including MO, and they all shot it down.” Mutt 4:31:40 PM 1/15/09 Was that with or without coded ammo?” 1:43:18 PM 1/15/09 “I'm worried about the terrorist birds from Canada that caused the Airbus emergency landing in the Hudson River and don't have time to worry about some damn bullets.” 1:50:48 PM 1/15/09 “Crash check the Second Amendment for the protection of individuals to carry firearms...and sadly NO I don't have evidence of the second...since we operate by English Common Law (essentially you can do it unless it is outlawed) as opposed to Napoleanic (you can only do what is allowed by law). Course you could have found it too if you had checked...http://www.answers.com/topic/right-to-vote-1 (try it instead of www.michaeljacksonfantasy.com) You would have found The Constitutional Right to Vote Nowhere in the United States Constitution is there an explicit declaration of the right to vote. Initially the Constitution appears to have left that right up to the states, which generally limited the franchise to white male property owners, who were citizens of a certain age, occasionally of a specific religious faith. For example, in Minor v. Happersett (1875), the U.S. Supreme Court rejected a claim by a Missouri woman that as a citizen the Constitution gave her a right to vote. The Court rejected her claim, indicating that citizenship did not necessarily include the right to vote; states could decide who had that right. Oh and if you were around in 2000...and not looking under stalls in boys rooms in elementary schools you would have seen "Yet in Bush v. Gore (2000), the Supreme Court stated that there was no constitutional right to vote in presidential elections because the Constitution, in creating the Electoral College, left it up to the states regarding how electors would be chosen. What all these decisions suggest then is that the constitutional right to vote is highly qualified, resting more in what states cannot do regarding discrimination against specific individuals than in affirmatively granting a right to vote." Its okay Crash, while you were learning to teach...UM I was actually learning things useful.” 1:51:49 PM 1/15/09 “All you pro-business people should be for this. The only reason I'm not in favor is there still may be people I want to shoot.” 1:56:27 PM 1/15/09 “there still may be people I want to shoot - nimble Pull bullet, file off serial #, re-seat bullet.” 1:57:46 PM 1/15/09 “mutt encourages people to break the law. what wonderful conservative values” 1:58:50 PM 1/15/09 “Oh criminy Nimble, just remember to pick up your spent casings. Or better just keep a few old boxes for those occasions.” 1:59:43 PM 1/15/09 “Law, what law?” 2:01:33 PM 1/15/09 “I am sorry Crash but maybe you can give us the law that prohibits filing off serial numbers of bullets? What if the person were just intending to lighten the bullet for carry purposes? YOU know a could of micrometers of brass on the casing to lighten the bullet. And I am pretty sure you can file anything off any item you own as long as you never intend to resell it (kinda like mattress tags). How bout this...we make it a law to where only the bullets that will be shot at you HAVE To have those serial numbers. I am betting if we talk to the killers real nice they will go for it.” 2:07:45 PM 1/15/09 “(c) Any person who willfully destroys, obliterates, or otherwise renders unreadable, the serialization required pursuant to this act, on any bullet or assembled ammunition is punishable by imprisonment not to exceed one year, and a fine of one thousand dollars ($1,000).” 2:10:15 PM 1/15/09 “Okay so if it was a RELOAD....what would that mean (LOL)?” 2:12:10 PM 1/15/09 “And that's a law now, supertroll?” 2:12:36 PM 1/15/09 “(c) Vendors of handgun ammunition in this state shall register with the department in a manner prescribed by the department through rule. Vendors shall record the following information for each caliber of coded ammunition in a form prescribed by the department: (1) The date of the transaction. (2) The name of the transferee. (3) The purchaser's driver's license number or other government issued identification card number. (4) The date of birth of the purchaser. (5) The unique identifier of all handgun ammunition transferred. (6) All other information prescribed by the department. yeah, like, Religion, Race, sexual orientation, IQ, Aids POS/NEG.... "ALL" other info prescribed.....” 2:13:21 PM 1/15/09 “Not yet Mutt, if the bastids get their way it WILL be....” 2:14:09 PM 1/15/09 “So Crash Bang is wrong yet again, isn't he.” 2:15:14 PM 1/15/09 “Really my point was that there are any number of ways to get around this stupidity. Not to mention that the database for this thing would be practically impractical and full of errors and omissions, to the point it would be of little use to law enforcement.” 2:16:23 PM 1/15/09 “Biggest problem I have is the destruction requirement; (I'd just keep the 3,000 rounds per weapon I have for sale on the black market...heck, you think DRUGS have a huge profit potential?..they'll be smuggling AMMO across from Mexico), and the problems marking handloads...not about doing it, HOW to do it......(Is THAT requirement like putting your NAME on every handload?...I mean I've heard of putting your intended TARGETS name on a round, so it might work...should be easy to tell which John Smith it was that loaded the round huh?)...” 2:16:29 PM 1/15/09 “Oh yeah, I had forgotten they want us all to dispose of our old ammo - LOL” 2:18:23 PM 1/15/09 Firearms refresher course “Fw: Firearms Refresher Course : "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson FIREARMS REFRESHER COURSE 1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject. 2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone. 3. Colt: The original point and click interface. 4. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control. 5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords? 6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words. 17. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms. 8. If you don't know your rights, you don't have any. 9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither. 10. The United States Constitution (c)1791. All Rights Reserved. 11. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand? 12. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others. 13. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday. 14. Guns only have two enemies; rust and politicians. 15. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety. 16. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive. 17. 911: Government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer. 18. Assault is a behavior, not a device. 19. Criminals love gun control; it makes their jobs safer. 20. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson. 21. Only a governm ent that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them. 22. You have only the rights you are willing to fight for. 23. Enforce the gun control laws we ALREADY have; don't make more. 24. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves. 25. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control. 26. Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist” 2:19:03 PM 1/15/09 “I agree ST, just being able to prove that you didn't mix up a batch (my range reloads all the time) or even a "yeah there were a bunch of us at the range I think we were all swapping ammo." The real problem is that if you can identify the cartridge is nice...but um normally it is sitting there on the ground. Its the BULLET that did the work. WAY too many holes in this law, good chance it will get beat in court.” 2:21:26 PM 1/15/09 “is this where the Black Helicopter Club meets? LOL Feel like moving to Waco?” 2:25:55 PM 1/15/09 No, but really.... “What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?” 2:29:38 PM 1/15/09 “How are you going to read the serial number when all that is left is a mushroom of lead? I think some of the law makers have watched too much CSI on TV.” 2:30:27 PM 1/15/09 “even if youre not breaking the law by filing off the serial numbers, youre still trying to circumvent and undermine the law/regulation great conservative values” 2:50:39 PM 1/15/09 “Well... I'm one of those rare libbies that's actually Pro 2nd Amendment... I suspect it comes from growing up in the South and being around guns my whole life. I respect them and value them primarily as a way of providing food and, of course, protection. Seems to me that there's a movement afoot to make ammunition hard to get... A gun ain't no good without ammo... Uggg....” 2:56:46 PM 1/15/09 “Awesome...26 great bumperstickers. Would be 27, but there's no evidence Jefferson ever said that. last edited: 1/15/09 3:08:25 PM” 3:04:50 PM 1/15/09 “Bang, bang, you're all dead (now fall down).” 3:15:47 PM 1/15/09 “This is as retarded as registering Bic lighters to cut down on smoking. At the same time it's just as retarded to blame Obama for this.” 4:01:35 AM 1/16/09 Join today. 6:06:56 AM 1/16/09 “Heck I was always taught to dig out the bullets after you whacked the guy.” 6:09:16 AM 1/16/09 “See it's funny. When Bush was in office the conservatives on here called anyone disagreeing with them 'Chicken Littles'. This was in relations to stuff like the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, problems with the economy, over the global warming debate, the supreme court. Before Obama even takes office a bunch of morons are running up and down the internet wailing and screaming and panicking about stuff they think he might do.” 6:35:37 AM 1/16/09 NRA NATIONAL EMBLEM “ ”6:45:30 AM 1/16/09 “there's only one real issue here: does it help solve crime? will it cut that 30% down to 25% (i suspect no) if so, then this is worth it. if not, it's just another enormous waste of money but none of you wingnuts are addressing that (not that i could really expect you to objectively address it anyways). it's all waaaaaaaaaahhhhhh my rights oh noes they be taking away my bulletssssssssssssss” 6:48:57 AM 1/16/09 “oh, and fvck you, xl, for that bathroom stall crack. i really expect better out of you. maybe i shouldnt last edited: 1/16/09 6:30:49 AM” 6:50:15 AM 1/16/09 “If it pisses off the crooks ---- cool.” 7:04:39 AM 1/16/09 “Huh? Bathroom stall crack? How'd I miss that one??” 7:06:42 AM 1/16/09
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