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Tell you what NonC - why don't I treat you like you treat others.

Why don't you convince me that you're not FOS. Of course I'll #&%!$ you off if I'm not convinced.

Y2
11:36:45 AM
8/19/09


Now you're making stuff up, no doubt based on the emotional cartoonish characterization you have of me which can't be much different than you have for whatever generalized "right wing extremist" fabrication you hold in such fear.
~Mutt


Assumptions, thought projections, myopia...that's all you've got. You go ahead and respond to me in whatever way your heart desires and all the while keep peddling what you're peddling, lol. I'll call it like I see. Feel free to do the same, just quit whining about it.â€
Nonconformist
11:54:56 AM
8/19/09


Sorry NonC - you didn't convince me. Fail I'm afraid. You nearly had me for a while then you started quoting Mutt.

I mean seriously, you can't even put your own views on this one - you cut and paste.

That's just about the funniest post you've ever made, and you weren't even trying. You ARE a funny guy.
last edited: 8/19/09 8:07:07 PM
Y2
8:14:42 PM
8/19/09

oh, I'm sorry, I forgot to put lol in the middle, that means I'm really a cool guy who doesn't take it seriously right. I may call you a #&%!$ but I give a little wink.
Y2
8:16:48 PM
8/19/09

LOL @ Barney Frank, He was slow to peg the mob, but Dining Table they are- could be just another day on TT. dining tables will give HC another 3 1/2 years of something to eat off of.
salebored
9:38:06 PM
8/19/09

You're so cute when you're mad.

Whatever Stovie---er, I mean Y2. By all means, keep peddling your BS, L-O-L. You're as big a fraud as T*lt.
Nonconformist
4:04:25 AM
8/20/09

Me and Stove stomper lol I'm not convinced. lol You conservative sheep are such dumb Kool Aid drinkers. You're the dumbest of all. lol

Me and Tilt lol. I'm not convinced. lol You conservative sheep are such dumb Kool Aid drinkers. You're the dumbest of all. lol
Y2
6:40:54 AM
8/20/09

That's the spirit! Just cut back a little on the el-oh-els lest people think you're deranged.


Tell you what: I'll throw you a bone here and from now on I'll just agree with everything you say without asking for explanations or specifics. Will that make you happy? Fine, then we'll call it a truce.
Nonconformist
7:04:06 AM
8/20/09

How conformist of you Non. NomistforConnon, I guess? He'll drag a nice shiny flashy colorful one by soon and you'll strike again.
last edited: 8/20/09 7:00:33 AM
salebored
7:11:00 AM
8/20/09

Tell you what: I'll throw you a bone here and from now on I'll just agree with everything you say without asking for explanations or specifics. Will that make you happy? Fine, then we'll call it a truce.â€
Nonconformist
7:04:06 AM
8/20/09


Still not getting it huh. Not really surprising.

I don't want you to agree with me. But for the past couple of years I've taken time to respond to you, put the occasional thought into my answers. I've even put some effort in to 'convince' you.

Then, all you've done, at the end of it, having not bothered to say what you think, is said.... 'uh huh, that's BS, you stupid liberal dick' - or words to that effect.

Now I'm saying something about it, it's because I 'disagree' with you. It's because I'm a hateful libby huh.
last edited: 8/20/09 9:12:57 AM
Y2
9:25:29 AM
8/20/09

You're right Y2. I agree with you.
Nonconformist
9:26:52 AM
8/20/09

I didn't hear no fat lady sing.
salebored
9:48:33 AM
8/20/09

“You're right Y2. I agree with you.â€
Nonconformist
9:26:52 AM
8/20/09

Well good. You certainly did fail in your efforts to convince me that you're not FOS.
Y2
9:51:37 AM
8/20/09

You're right Y2. I agree with you.
Nonconformist
9:52:37 AM
8/20/09

WE SURROUND THEM!

(dramatic hamster music)






WTF is that crap supposed to mean anyway?   ROF


Tllt
9:56:30 AM
8/20/09

All we need is Gov.
salebored
9:56:47 AM
8/20/09

it means that we, the enlightened majority of the minority of nonpartisan right-wing independent thinkers who do what Glenn Beck tells us without questioning it, surround all of you, the kool aid drinking fools who can't or won't see the fascist socialist nazi communist anti-white conspiracy being put into place right now by the muslim kenya-born black panther president who's iron-fisted weak-wristed totalitarian pu$$y leadership has singlehandedly led America to the brink of Orwelian totalitarianism. We don't actually know what any of those words mean, but Glenn Beck uses them and he cries a lot and loves America, and we love America too, so we will don our tinfoil hats, hoist our misspelled and grammatically-incorrect signs ("descent is the highest form of patriotic") and spend millions of dollars buying teabags in order to protest wasteful spending.

does that clarify it for you, Tilt? Jeez man, pay attention...
pepsisformosa
3:54:27 PM
8/20/09

All we need is Gov... Dauntah....dah....dah...daw ...All we need is gov.
last edited: 8/20/09 4:02:08 PM
salebored
4:15:07 PM
8/20/09

What does, 'wee weed up' mean? I think I am.
salebored
4:22:00 PM
8/20/09

Congratulations Mr. Beck. You have now become the new Boogyman of the left.

I'm amazed at how threatened and afraid people are of opposing views. How intellectually insecure can ya get?
Nigal
4:39:41 PM
8/20/09

hahaha, clearly you've mistaken my sarcasm for fear. If Beck offered any sort of fact or backup, then he might be scary. But making trumped up hollow claims to the swaying masses of ignorant butthurt conservatives who can now pretend to play politics? That's not scary. It's reckless and idiotic. Hilarious, even. But not scary. He's no better than the wackos who claimed Bush hit the pentagon with a cruise missle on 9/11... he just has more followers because so many people are terrified to have a liberal - and a BLACK one at that! - running the country.

This is your cue to call me an elitist. Go wild. Threw a few fvcktards and asshats in there for goot measure. I love those
last edited: 8/20/09 4:35:02 PM
pepsisformosa
4:43:55 PM
8/20/09

No, I this is my cue to call you frickin' obsessed. Let me check, yep, definitely obsessed.
Nigal
4:47:47 PM
8/20/09

Obsessed that a TV personality is making millions by blatantly spreading complete untruths and making idiotic and reckless claims to those who know next to nothing about politics except that their man isn't in the office? Someone calling the democratically-elected president a fascist and a racist while not-so-subtly suggesting revolution? Yeah. I think it's pretty sick. More people should be "obsessed" with combatting this kind of crap.
last edited: 8/20/09 4:43:23 PM
pepsisformosa
4:56:42 PM
8/20/09

luckily, in a victory for reason and logic, it appears that the tide is turning against this swine, as more and more companies pull their support while his claims get more and more ridiculous
pepsisformosa
5:05:14 PM
8/20/09

No, the fact you even have to post about him. The fact you give such long drawn out responses show it to be true.

And the fact you posted twice in a row.
last edited: 8/20/09 4:52:42 PM
Nigal
5:05:52 PM
8/20/09

I'm not the one who took the time to e-mail verizon to thank them for supporting him. But yeah, I'm obsessed. Totally.
pepsisformosa
5:07:26 PM
8/20/09

Ha! I don't even listen to him. Hell, you seem to know more about his show content than I do.

I would e mail Keith Olbermann's sponsors too if the tighty righties were posting petitions.
Nigal
5:13:50 PM
8/20/09

so, left or right, you'd defend someone who makes a career out of misleading people - just because people were petitioning his removal?
pepsisformosa
5:16:22 PM
8/20/09

I want it all to be out there. I want the radical right to have a voice. I want the radical left to have a voice. I want the conservative libertarians to have a voice. Hell, I even want the G-d hates fags baptists to have a voice.

What I do NOT want is groups pushing their personal agenda in an attempt to remove that voice simply because they do not like what they are saying. That is weak and insecure. Don't like Glen Beck? Turn the channel weakling. Don't like Kieth Olbermann? Change the channel weakling.
Nigal
5:24:02 PM
8/20/09

Beck backs it up bigtime. He's not a liar at all. He's not a racist, he's just a guy who tells it like he sees it. Be sure to watch his show next week, he'll be exposing some major corruption he's been looking into.
Stratd00d
5:24:07 PM
8/20/09

oh, I'm on pins and needles in anticipation. Beck the muckraker. Champion for liberty, freedom, and truth!
pepsisformosa
5:24:58 PM
8/20/09

What are all these lies you're talking about? You just hate him because he's exposing the band of theives
Stratd00d
5:32:39 PM
8/20/09

that's all fine and dandy - yay bill of rights and all. But to actually write a company that's funding hateful nonsense like Beck and thank them... come on now. Admit it. You just said that to piss off libbies, didn't you?

To pose as telling the truth and get a group of people all whipped up about tyranny and fascism (when at least 90% of them don't even know what those words mean except that they're baaaaaaaaad)... sure, that's his right as an American (even in this tyrannical fascism we're mired in, according to him)... but excuse me for letting out a hearty gut-laugh as the fraud slowly loses his sponsorship and credibility. Plenty of people make careers out of criticizing the other half of the political spectrum - but they back it up. They don't call the president a racist or compare him to hitler. They live in the world of reality. I think partisan hackery like that from either side is pretty silly, but at least it's rooted in fact.

Beck is at best severely misguided, and is more realistically probably deliberately pouring on the empty rhetoric about tyranny not because he believes it, but because it's making him money. Because people like strat and HPD tune in every night to listen to him spew his hate and they believe that he's actually saying something of substance. I'm not threatened by it (though I find it disturbing that anyone, under the banner of "truth," can convince such a large group of nutjobs of so many falsehoods)... I'm amused to death by it.
pepsisformosa
5:33:18 PM
8/20/09

Who said anything about rights? We all have a right to say what we want. We DON'T have the right to do it on TV. Ya have to earn that yourself.

To pose as telling the truth and get a group of people all whipped up about tyranny and fascism (when at least 90% of them don't even know what those words mean except that they're baaaaaaaaad)...

Ok, THIS is my cue to call you an elitist. In reality I have a lot more respect for you and your views than I let on here. But it's when you say things like this that you seem to slip into the elitist left masses a little more. The assumption that people hold a view opposite from what you may believe simply because they are ignorant is about as intellectually dishonest and elitist as one can get. You're better than this Pepsi.
Nigal
5:42:53 PM
8/20/09

he's not hateful at all, ever, not in the least. He's just not.

Sponsorship? Dood check the ratings lately? Are you aware that his book is on it's 8th week at #1 on the NYT bestseller list? He'll have no problems finding sponsore that aren't liberal.

He asn't misguided. He's does research, shows a lot of actual video clips backing up what he's talking about. You can keep calling me a stupid nutjob but you are the one who keeps repeating yourself and offering no substance, only mean spirited BS. Everything you say about him is wrong. You can't possibly watch his show so how can you be so sure about your opinion of him?

There's like 3 threads on here about how much you hate him...why dp you resort to putting people down falsely like that? I don't get it.....

What have you heard him say that's hateful?

What lie have you heard him tell?
Stratd00d
5:45:24 PM
8/20/09

I find Glen's haters, just like the Rush haters, tend to know next to nothing of show content other than what gets cherry picked, spun and spread.
Nigal
5:47:39 PM
8/20/09

I'm thinking they probably get most of their data from John Stewart and blogs....
Stratd00d
5:54:28 PM
8/20/09

Don't forget The Huffington!
Nigal
5:56:58 PM
8/20/09

That's a given....

They really seem to be getting twitchy...uncomfortable, and it's exposing their mean spirited underbelly
Stratd00d
6:05:00 PM
8/20/09

I ordered a'T'm shirt and underwear with Rev. Becks picture. Well, the picture wasn't on the 'T', Butt on the underwear.
salebored
6:23:24 PM
8/20/09

One time my brother got the crabs....
Stratd00d
6:24:38 PM
8/20/09

So how was it taken out of context when he said that President Obama has "a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture"?

How is that not a hateful and untruthful thing to say? ...or did he back it up somehow?
Violin
6:28:16 PM
8/20/09

It's his opinion, I think he may be correct, based on the evidence he produced on that particular show. I'm sure the blogs didnt' mention that part though....
Stratd00d
6:33:30 PM
8/20/09

These guys must have missed the 1,000 times Beck has stated he is not a journalist and he is little more than a rodeo clown. He's a commentator. An opinion giver, if you will.
Nigal
6:39:44 PM
8/20/09

What evidence did he give on that particular show, stratdood? What makes you think he may be correct? (specifics please.)
Violin
6:51:22 PM
8/20/09

He showed his ties to Rev Wright, he played audio of Obama talking about his views on reperations, and talked about a couple of the czars and some associates who have very radical views on the subject. It wasn't in a hateful way. He just explained how it ties into everything Obama does. Look at the so called healthcare bill. It's choc full of affirmative action quotas for doctors and nurses

I guess you should watch a show before you claim you know what it's about.
Stratd00d
6:57:17 PM
8/20/09

NOW calling someone a racist is hateful? LOL! Is there some kind of rule book you guys follow or do you just make shiit up as you go along?



Yes Nigal, pepsi (cough*fruad*cough) is just another name on the long and growing list of people who---even though they don't listen to them, watch them or read them---somehow magically knows exactly what gets said or written. The force is definitely strong within them. I'm sure his list of examples of lies and hate is just as long as the other clowns' here.
Nonconformist
4:07:18 AM
8/21/09

Strat - specifics... What are Obama's views on reparations? What are racist about them? What radical views do his advisors have on race? Produce some specifics in the proposed health care legislation that Beck feels are racist. How does that reflect on Obama (seeing as how he's not on any of the committees that produced them)?
Violin
4:44:28 AM
8/21/09

A reasonable request V. Let's lay it all out there.
Nigal
5:10:30 AM
8/21/09

Nigal, I'd agree that me simply assuming that Beck's fans don't understand fascism or tyranny would be pretty elitist and stuck up. But I've challenged both strat and HPD to explain tyranny and why Americans are being victimized by it, and neither was up to the task. And just judging by their claims about fascism (that this health plan is somehow a step towards it, for example), I'd say they don't have a very firm grasp at all of what fascism really consists of.

I can get you plenty of quotes if you want them
pepsisformosa
9:16:08 AM
8/21/09

my problem, my real honest to god problem with Glenn Beck, is that he doesn't need to lie. Everyone, left or right (except those who are completely blinded by their party of choice) can agree that the government - both sides of it - is corrupt. That most, maybe all, of our politicians are probably in somebody's pocket. That some sort of real change (not Obama's "change" but something that's more than just a marketing ploy) is desperately needed if this country is going to continue to be a world power.

But when you start calling democratically elected leaders tyrants... when you suggest that we're headed toward fascism and insist that the president has deep-seated racial hatred - you're just being absurd. I understand that Beck wants the same thing I do - real reform and change in the US Government. But trying to get it through over the top sensationalism and downright dishonesty is no better than invading a country to remove a real tyrant by making up stories about chemical weapons.

To fix dishonesty and corruption in the government by using dishonesty and corruption to incite people to action is just ridiculous.

So THAT is my problem with Glenn Beck.
pepsisformosa
9:27:59 AM
8/21/09

The tyrant is biz, is that to difficult? Even when some biz withdraws ads from Glen Becks slot, that's all PR , because what he preaches leads biz to the land of milk and honey.
salebored
10:24:44 AM
8/21/09

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