Tea Party

“Amen, brother! Without an enema, what's a mother to do?”

“Poor Marko, degraded to hugging up on Sale, and fantasizing about Stovie ...
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“Tea Partiers Mocking Man With Parkinson's Disease: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXsRH73Cnw8


Interview with Parkinson's victim: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfvnNzgQy7Q”

“sickening is right

The guy was using his disease to tell people that the community should force people to pay for his healthcare.

He should have some self-respect.”

“If you listen to the interview and read the sign, he was actually thanking them for the operation that he already had, that was partially paid for by Medicare.

The lack of compassion displayed by those protesters is hard to comprehend.”

“true, but I did listen to the interview and read the sign and the sign he was displaying at the protest was for forcing the community to pay for his healthcare, and everyone else's.

Did YOU read the sign?

Got Parkinson's?
I do and YOU might.
Thanks for helping!
That's community.

There were two designated sides for protesters and he went to his oppositions side and used his handicap to push his opposing philosophy on them.

If we would have stayed with the other protesters, that never would have happened. He was obviously trying to get a reaction, and there is no telling what he said before filming started.

He was using his disease to tell people that the community should force people to pay for his healthcare.

Did you read the captions on his interview?

"The surgery cost $150,000. It was partially covered by Medicare and the Cleveland Clinic."
"Bob believes EVERYONE should have access to health insurance."”

“The guy was using his disease to tell people that the community should force other taxpayers to pay for his church.”

“Yep, that was pretty shytty V. But unfortunately the actions of a few doesn't discount the message of the whole. Just like when some liberal does something crappy.”

“The guy was using his disease to tell people that the community should force other taxpayers to pay for his mortgage.”

“So tell me Sarge... would Jesus tell a sick person to #&%!$ off and die?

What kind of society do you want to live in?”

“He'll say those few aren't really X-tians, in fact they were probably commies in connie clothing.”

“I is cute when one of vileboy's trolls act all "moral" like.
*snicker*”

“�I is cute when one of vileboy's trolls act all "moral" like.
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Stovie
8:56:02 AM
3/20/10

You iz cute as a butt(on).”

“Ill behavior is ill behavior no matter what a person's political leanings. Violin knows it when he sees it. That doesn't make him a hypocrite.

It's the fact he only points out ill behavior when it's done by those with opposing political leanings. That's what makes him a hypocrite. LOL!”

“It's the fact he only points out ill behavior when it's done by those with opposing political leanings. That's what makes him a hypocrite

~is shocked that people do that on this board~”

“bow chicka meow”

“Deplorable behavior on the part of a few Tea Party supporters for sure. People can act in disgusting ways sometimes.

And I’m sure, if I search back through the threads, I will find violin’s disgust with leftist G8 protesters who vandalized private businesses. Can we see the teary video of the private business “hero” who comes to work on Monday only to find his business vandalized and his property stolen?


Targeted by the Tea Party: Parkinson's Hero Speaks

What makes this guy a hero? I had spinal surgery and paid about $150,000 in out-of-pocket expenses. Does this make me the “Spinal Tumor Hero”?


2:05 into the video the caption reads "Bob believes everyone should have access to health insurance."

Well bully for Bob. After getting his pricey education, he thinks private insurance companies should either be forced to accept clients or that government needs to pick up the tab for everyone. This is not socialism how?


This guy spent a lot of money to get an education, including a PHD from Cornell, and now he thinks other people should be paying for his healthcare?


And the funny thing is that leftists, like violin, will use deplorable behavior by a few in order to ignore the entire message of the Tea Parties. As if they needed more rationalizations.

It’s the same type of rationalization that says, “I’m going to take other people’s wealth and distribute it to others as I see fit but I’m not a thief.”

The same type of rationalization that says, “I’m going to ignore the speed limit and drive faster than the law allows but I’m not a criminal.”

The same type of rationalization that says, “I will use government to force you to conform to my world view but I’m not a control freak.”


Leftists create a fantasy world of denial in order to rationalize their deplorable behavior.”

““The guy was using his disease to tell people that the community should force other taxpayers to pay for his NRA membership.””

“And the funny thing is that leftists, like violin, will use deplorable behavior by a few in order to ignore the entire message of the Tea Parties.

It's just basic cheap politics. If you don't like what someone has to say you don't even have to give a cogent rebuttal. Just marginalize them.”

“of course not V, but Jesus also wouldn't go around begging for money


Is THAT the kind of society you want to live in?”

“No matter how many times they repeat the same tired old mantra, it never gets old... to them:

What kind of society do you want to live in?
Rev Truth V Wicked
6:43:15 AM
3/20/10


“Habits of improvidence having for generations been cultivated by the Poor-Law, and the improvident enabled to multiply, the evils produced by compulsory charity are now proposed to be met by compulsory insurance.

The extension of this policy, causing extension of corresponding ideas, fosters everywhere the tacit assumption that Government should step in whenever anything is not going right. “Surely you would not have this misery continue!” exclaims someone, if you hint a demurrer to much that is now being said and done. Observe what is implied by this exclamation. It takes for granted, first, that all suffering ought to be prevented, which is not true: much of the suffering is curative, and prevention of it is prevention of a remedy. In the second place, it takes for granted that every evil can be removed: the truth being that, with the existing defects of human nature, many evils can only be thrust out of one place or form into another place or form – often being increased by the change. The exclamation also implies the unhesitating belief, here especially concerning us, that evils of all kinds should be dealt with by the State. There does not occur the inquiry whether there are at work other agencies capable of dealing with evils, and whether the evils in question may not be among those which are best dealt with by these other agencies. And obviously, the more numerous governmental interventions become, the more confirmed does this habit of thought grow, and the more loud and perpetual the demands for intervention.”

Herbert Spencer - The Man Versus The State - Williams and Norgate, London and Edinburgh, 1884 (pp 46-47).”

““The guy was using his disease to tell people that the community should force other taxpayers to pay for his Airline flights””

“Teabaggers in DC protesting the Healthcare Reform Bill are shouting that John Lewis is a #&%!$ and Barney Frank is a faggot.

Kinda reminds me of this place.


(appearing soon on a youtube near You ---)”

“They actually spit on Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, Tilt.: http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/20/spitting-and-slurs-directed-at-lawmakers/




Are all tea-baggers racists and bigots?

Surely not.


Would I be ashamed to align myself with a group that behaves like this?

You betcha.”

“spitting ... being mean ... throwing dollars ...

Dude, if that gets your panties in a bunch, you better take em off because I don't think you understand just how far we tea-party types are prepared to go to go to stop this country from turning into what you government teat suckers call Utopia.”

“I would think it would be embarrassing to go to a protest and associate with angry people engaging in despicable behavior. Protests seem to attract some angry wackos.


A fair-minded person would also think people would be embarrassed to associate with those who engage in violence.

A history of G8 violence
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=56114

Union Thugs Deliver Unprovoked Beating on Black Conservative at Carnahan Town Hall
http://stlouisteaparty.com/2009/08/07/union-thugs-deliver-unprovoked-beating-on-black-conservative-at-carnahan-town-hall/


A fair-minded person would think people would be embarrassed to associate with those who deny freedom of speech.

Access Denied
By: Christina Hoff Sommers
The only exposure to dissident perspectives that the average undergraduate may get is on the rare occasion that a politically incorrect speaker is invited to the campus. This happens rarely because such visits are resented and resisted and almost never internally funded. When Thomas Sowell, Ward Connerly, Andrew Sullivan, David Horowitz, or Linda Chavez, do appear at a college, they are routinely heckled, jeered, hissed at and sometimes threatened. In November 1998, the president of Columbia University, George Rupp, forced the last minute cancellation of a conservative conference when a mob of 250 students threatened to disrupt it. As the invited speakers, John Leo and Dinesh D'Souza, made a hasty retreat to a nearby park, jeering protesters, exhilarated by their success in getting them evicted, brandished placards that said, "Access denied: We Win."


A fair-minded person would think people would be embarrassed to associate with those who persecute academic freedom.

Student Says School Persecuted Him for Being Conservative
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,467626,00.html

Long-Distance Indoctrination
http://www.academia.org/long-distance-indoctrination/

But when Professor Michael Filozof placed an American flag bumper sticker on his door that read, “I support President Bush and U. S. troops,” the decoration led to his dismissal from a tenure-track position at MCC.

The Liberal (and Moderating) Professoriate
http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2007/10/08/politics

At the same time, he added, the extent of the imbalance and some informal research he has conducted "give me pause" and has him wondering about the possibility of bias against right-leaning thinkers. He examined the scholars being asked to give Tanner Lectures (a top lecture series at leading universities) and the political leanings of economists and political figures among honorary degree recipients at a top university (which he declined to name). Liberals receive more such honors by far, he said.

It's not that there are no conservative professors, he said, but their share is so small as to raise questions that deserve more attention. …

…While Summers said that this attitude creates "a problematic role for universities to put themselves in," he said that it explains the "extreme hostility" of some in academe to conservative ideas. …


A fair-minded person would think people would be embarrassed to associate with those who practice bigotry in any form.

The study -- which found that Penn's faculty members are overwhelmingly Democratic by a ratio of 12 to 1
http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/node/39861


A fair-minded person would think people would be embarrassed to associate with those who believe it proper for government to force diversity of physical appearance and gender, but not diversity of thought:

Summers said it would be "extraordinarily unwise and dangerous" for government to try to force more balance in hiring.
http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2007/10/08/politics


A fair-minded person would think people would be embarrassed to associate with a university professor whose idea of a free exchange of ideas with those of differing viewpoints is to “hone” his preconceived dogma:

One reason he thinks this is important, Summers said, is to help liberalism. "As someone who is a strong Democrat and is a liberal, and does not think that we have won the argument with the country over the last 40 years, rather to the contrary, it makes me wonder whether if you do not engage in intense dialogue with those whom you disagree with in substantial number whether your own arguments will be sharpened and honed to maximum effect," Summers said.



Violin’s posts show the leftist message very clearly:

“Yes, I’m a liberal, and I’m sick of it being a bad word. I don’t know at what time in history liberals have stood on the wrong side of social issues.”
George Clooney


But none of that seems to embarrass leftists. For some reason, it’s not embarrassing for leftists to associate with those who live their entire closed-minded lives with the unending mission to persecute others, engage in violence to achieve their ends, and steal wealth.

A fair-minded person should be embarrassed for them.”

“Yeah but the problem there is "fair-minded". Not something V has shown himself to be. Don't get me wrong, I think V is a good person and he is very funny. But fair-minded, no.”

““of course not V, but Jesus also wouldn't go around begging for money"

Jesus is not around much, but his followers seem to be everywhere begging for money. Turn on the TV.”

“Nigal, people who are incensed when nasty language is thrown their way, while they are not embarrassed to be associated with nasty language against others, destruction of property, violence, and theft, are not fair-minded.


PHILADELPHIA.; LABOR AGITATORS ACTIVE--RIOTOUS DEMONSTRATIONS EXPECTED
Several of the leaders have stated that if the condition of the laboring people cannot be improved by fair means, it can by force, and the working people are urged to that extreme.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9407E0DD1431E53ABC4851DFB4678388669FDE


Late-night protest at UC Berkeley turns violent
BERKELEY, Calif. (AP) -- A late-night demonstration over budget cuts turned violent in Berkeley when protesters broke into a campus building, torched trash cans, smashed windows and threw rocks and bottles at police, authorities said Friday.

Police arrested two people near the University of California, Berkeley campus, said Officer Andrew Frankel, a spokesman for the Berkeley Police Department.
The unrest began around 11 p.m. Thursday after a crowd of more than 100 people gathered on campus for an open-air dance party to build support for an upcoming statewide protest over education funding cuts.

Students and activists have staged demonstrations in recent months at public colleges across California to protest deep budget cuts that have led to steep tuition hikes, enrollment cuts, faculty furloughs and reduced course offerings.
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=7299514




People like that have no ethics.

After reading Herbert Spencer, it's obvious that they've been at it since at least 1884.

The leftist message never seems to change, but that's a good thing. It clearly shows their bankrupt views and belief in violent coercion.”

“Nigal has very low standards for vile.
Anyone that cheers the destruction of another TTer's home is NOT a "good" person.”

“I missed that one Stove.

You mean he insists we be concerned about his misfortune while he takes pleasure in the misfortune of others?

I have never minded that we disagree on issues, but that revelation surprises me. Are you not exaggerating?


Violin was concerned enough to post a cute little cartoon after I had gone through a life-threatening procedure and endured months of following agony (It still hurts to sit here for long). Not knowing each other well, I wasn't expecting anything more and appreciated the gesture.

And I was especially grateful for the concern he showed in asking me how a person without health insurance could be against further government intrusion into healthcare.”

“Is that all you saw arc?

Dayhiker first posted about your health issues on the college football thread and I immediately emailed him and asked him to keep me in the loop as I didn't have your email address. I posted encouraging words to you on that thread.

You expected me to send flowers to the hospital? Come visit you? I guess I should have gotten an address and sent a card. Please forgive my thoughtlessness.

As for the douche bag posting before you, I emailed him and offered him financial help. I'm sure I'll be criticized for mentioning it, and I generally don't make my charity public, but it does put his constant douchebaggery since then in a certain light. He loves to play the victim when his daily taunts eventually get a response.

I haven't interacted with the $hithead in several years, but not a day goes by without him attempting to get a rise from me.

I'd hate to ignore you too arc, but you're acting like a total fuchead. Really. I'm getting nothing positive from it. Are you? Feel free to contact me privately if you have some personal issue you'd like to resolve, but I'm through entertaining this crap publicly.”

“you mentioned it! you mentioned it!”

“crash, chime in.”

“Eyewitness to Tea Party Protest: Adding Insult to Insult
by Joel B. Pollak

I was actually at the Tea Party march against the health care bill in Washington, D.C. yesterday. I don’t attend political events on the Jewish Sabbath, so I simply decided to go and observe, lending a quiet voice of protest. I was in our nation’s capital for the conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, and wandered down by myself to Capitol Hill after morning services at the historic 6th & I synagogue.

I saw thousands of people–fifteen thousand, I guessed at the time–gathered on the west lawn of the Capitol building. There were American flags and lots of Gadsden flags (“Don’t Tread on Me”). I noted some of the more humorous signs (“I’m not wee-wee’d up, I’m pissed off”), as well as some of the more esoteric ones (“Restoration, not Transformation”). Almost all of them were home-made with poster-board and marker.

I did not see any comparison of Obama to Hitler, nor any sign advocating violence of any kind. I did see two signs bearing a hammer-and-sickle–which I personally find just as offensive as the swastika, though it is bizarrely trendy to some Americans. There was one sign with an image of Obama and the words “undocumented worker,” which was the only hint of Birtherism I witnessed. The rest of the signs were straightforward slogans: “Kill the Bill”; “Start Over.”

The crowd was far from uniform. There were black people, white people, Hispanic people–both in the audience and on stage. One of the speakers invoked the example of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. as an inspiration–and the crowd roared its approval, as it did for mentions of Thomas Jefferson and John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan. A few of the speakers invoked religious sentiments about abortion. That was as edgy as it got.

At one point, the crowd to the right of the stage started to boo loudly. It was impossible to see exactly why, from where I was standing, but soon a group of people–members of Congress, apparently–ascended the stairs to the Capitol. If media reports are to be believed, that was the moment when racist and homophobic language was hurled at Rep. John Lewis, and a protestor was arrested for spitting at Rep. Emanuel Cleaver.

I can’t speak about what actually happened–I could not see the incident, nor did anyone else seem to know what was going on. The first I heard of it was when I turned on the news after the Sabbath. Since then, I have seen YouTube video of the event in which Rep. Lewis and others walk slowly through the crowd, and not a single epithet is heard. Presumably, if video evidence to the contrary existed, it would have been aired by now.

I don’t know why Rep. Lewis and the other members with him decided to walk right through the protestors. Did they intend to provoke the protestors? If so, few of those present seem to have taken the bait, from the video that is currently available. At least one did, though, and was arrested by Capitol Hill police–and so now the entire protest, and the entire nation’s opposition to the health care bill, is being tarnished.

Obviously, any such rhetoric and behavior is totally reprehensible and beyond the pale. It is an insult to the nation and to the Tea Party movement itself, which in my experience is made up of ordinary people from all walks of life who are opposed to the massive expansion of government we are living through at the moment. If what the media has reported is true, then an apology is certainly due to the country as a whole.

The only epithet I personally heard yesterday was the one hurled at us by two passersby: “Teabaggers.” Those who first promoted this phrase on MSNBC and who still use it today know exactly what it means. It is a crude sexual metaphor designed to denigrate ordinary people who are just standing up for their rights as best they know how, the way no party–not even the Republican party–has done in this debate.

Journalists have also contrived false accusations against protestors before–as in the case of a man who carried a rifle to one town hall meeting last year, whom MSNBC only showed from the shoulders down to hide the fact that he was black, while accusing the protestors of racism. There have also been racist attacks against black Tea Party protestors, such as Kenneth Gladney, who was assaulted outside a town hall in August.

Then there is the scandal I have personally documented–the way in which groups of paid organizers told their followers outside a town hall meeting in my own community that they should drown out residents who asked questions about the health care bill. That video, which was filmed in August, led me to uncover the strategy written by felon and Democrat strategist Robert Creamer as a blueprint for the events of the past year.

For the record, I have spent my life fighting against prejudice of any kind. I was the first white member of my high school’s Afro-American club. I interned for our nation’s first black female senator, Carol Moseley-Braun. I tutored children in one of the poorest black townships in South Africa, where many of my students lived in shacks without toilets or electricity. I lived in a Muslim community to learn more about the Islamic faith.

I don’t have to take accusations of racism and homophobia. I have spoken out against prejudice before, and I do so again today. I am glad to see the Republicans and the Tea Party leaders do so as well. What is unacceptable is that these allegations have been used to trash a movement that is made up of ordinary, fair-minded people of every race and creed who are simply standing up for their rights. That is offensive to me as well.

I look forward to the day, beyond this vote and this Congress, when Americans will be able to debate complex policy issues in a spirit of civility and open-mindedness. It is heart-breaking to feel the way this administration has set Americans against one another, a far cry from Barack Obama’s rhetoric at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. I am determined to be part of the solution. That is what I believe the Tea Party stands for at its best.

http://ow.ly/16Rf78”

“The Pea Tardy just is.”

“The term "Teabagger" was first promoted on MSNBC?

Really?

http://teabagparty.org/
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“Successful and hard working Americans are being forced to pay through the nose for the mistakes of others and for a massive new social agenda that is antithetical to America's work ethic. The party in power is no longer representing the interests of the individuals and small businesses who make this country successful.

Took me two seconds to find out what they are about. I'll take another two seconds and read it to ya if you like Violin. I don't mind.”

“I know its early Nigal.

I was responding to the writer's assertion that MSNBC started calling teabaggers, "teabagger".

If you'll notice, they registered the domain name.”

“I'm afraid the sun won't come up today.”

“Perhaps those baggers would be a bit more contemplative and less angry if there was green tea in those bags.”

““The term "Teabagger" was first promoted on MSNBC?


That is not what it says.”