Honduras

“TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras (AP) - A military coup has divided Honduras between two leaders - one recognized by world bodies and another backed by the country's congress, courts and military.
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....Obama administration in recent days had warned Honduran power players, including the armed forces, that the U.S. would not support a coup, but Honduran military leaders stopped taking their calls.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090629/D994A9NG3.html”

“Obammy's do nothing approach in Iran set the tone.”

“Will we stop giving them money and letting their crazy into our country? No, we trained them in the 80's in the art of drug dealing and murder.”

“The One's desire to clearly ignore the Honduran constitution and support an illegal extension of this Marxist's term really doesn't bode well for US.”

“Interfering in Latin America has been a habit for over 100 years and a hard habit to break for the U.S.

Smedley Butler says.....

War is just a racket...

"I spent thirty-three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism...

I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."”

“MarkO's GOD was so upset at what had happened in Honduras, he didn't go out for ice cream.”

“Please, Stovie, without cutting and pasting, tell us all what the U.S. should do in Iran and Honduras.”

“Nice cut and paste there markO. LOL”

“The Messiah is just worried about a coup of his own.”

“�Interfering in Latin America has been a habit for over 100 years and a hard habit to break for the U.S.


LushO..google the Monroe Doctrine...(named after PRESIDENT Monroe.

Still showing the signs of incompetent education daily.

Honduras is just another excellent example of "someone wants to be the big dog when the big dog is gone"....”

“Hey Cocaine Dan, GOOGLE Colonialism.”

“Animal Farm”

“drunkO stopped having new thought's back in the late 1960's.”

“To be fair (and it was a great weekend so I gotta be) MarkO is more or less right.

Since the end of the Spanish/American War (you wanna debate a "made up war" read about Hearst's involvement in that) we have seen what we did later in Afghanistan (post Soviet Union) exemplified.

What I mean is we "freed" the Central American Nations but never really spent time helping the poor ill educated masses learn any other way to govern.

As a result its like watching a car enging (revolutions per minute).

The sad thing is that in each case, officials come in who are so westernized they would rather steal what they can when they can. Until they get caught.

The US is more often than not (in the past) stuck with a "devil that we know" in diplomacy.

The other factor is that none of the nations really was "formed" hell they were mostly carved up by European nations (much like Yugoslavia and the Arab nations) and often times there are still bitter battles between communities.
last edited: 6/29/09 7:51:04 AM”

“this just in...and its a SHOCKER!!!!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124623220955866301.html


That Mr. Zelaya acted as if he were above the law, there is no doubt. While Honduran law allows for a constitutional rewrite, the power to open that door does not lie with the president. A constituent assembly can only be called through a national referendum approved by its Congress.

But Mr. Zelaya declared the vote on his own and had Mr. Ch�vez ship him the necessary ballots from Venezuela. The Supreme Court ruled his referendum unconstitutional, and it instructed the military not to carry out the logistics of the vote as it normally would do.

WHAT a President who thinks he is above the law??????

Wait this is Honduras...mebbie someone a bit closer to the Potomac needs to review this. Needless to say we now see why would Her Thighness (shrillery) and the PreZBo be siding with Chavez on this????

HMMMMMMMM?”

“Iraq, Israel and Afghanistan are now in the amerias continents?”

“Yeah it's interesting that Zelaya is basically a communist thug who's wanting to be president-for-life, and here Obama is, actively supporting his criminal actions, and calling the legally-justified arrest by the Honduran military a "coup". And yet Obama gave NO support to honest democratic reformers (or rather reform minded people) in Iran in the critical stage of its election upset.

You know the old phrase you can judge a man by the company he keeps....”

“I guess Many of you are proud of your countries Cuban relationship over the last fifty years. Keep talking cowboys.”

“WOW...PrezBO sides with Castro and Chavez....maybe he is picking his mentors...”

“Remember Obama insulting the Brits?

”

“what's so bad about Chavez? I know he was the media's boogeyman for a week or so, but really... why is he a bad guy again?”

“Silly Libbies just LOVE Presidents For Life.”

““The Messiah is just worried about a coup of his own.”you crazy righty bastards would just love it, wouldn't you.. now run along and actually study up on the region, politics and what democracy actually means.”

“A military coup in a banana republic really has the right wing kooks pining for the good old days.”

“what's so bad about Chavez?

You really have to ask what's so bad about Marxism?”

“markO the Marxist.”

“�what's so bad about Chavez? I know he was the media's boogeyman for a week or so, but really... why is he a bad guy again?�
pepsisformosa
2:17:42 PM
6/30/09

And here ladies and gentlemen is the evidence of total disconnect of the liberal mindset.

Pick a topic, Free Speech? NOPE its gone as more and more private media outlets are shut down.

Industry? LOL”

“MarxO?”

“LOL, how appropriate (but I image he'd only like it if he was one of the pigs more equal than others.)”

“Pick a topic, - XL

Violent crime? Skyrocketed under Chavez, with kidnapping becoming a serious pervasive problem.

Economy? Chavez has done nothing to diversify the economy, nor enable the underclass to gain relevant skillsets (one could say the same thing about the American welfare underclass that liberals created, though, to be fair - LOL) Venezuela still doesn't have the indigenous technology necessary to develop its own oil industry.
last edited: 7/01/09 6:04:35 AM”

“Muttolini?”

“LOL”

“lushO wouldn't understand it.”

“Nah he will one day...”

“Chavez is not a Marxist, he's a Bolivarian. He may have taken some influence from a Marxist historian (mind you a historian, not from Marx's actual writings), but that doesn't make him a Marxist. I'm sorry to burst that bubble for you, and I know it's so much more convenient to group people into buckets labeled with scary names nobody really understands anymore, but on that claim, you are incorrect. Marxism and Bolivarism are actually extremely different things.

The reason Chavez is such a "bad guy" to the western media is because he's anti-imperialist and doesn't want to "share" his oil with America. He won't pal up to America like most of the other countries out there - he doesn't play the politics game and suck up to get a handout, and that infuriates the "America, love it or leave it crowd." How dare anyone not do what we want? We're AMERICA dammit!

I don't agree with a lot of things Obama is doing. If I were to be polled, I'd say that overall I'm dissatisfied with his service so far. But you're really stretching pathetically far when you imply that his shaking hands with Chavez is something to be upset about. There are plenty of real things to not like about the way Obama's running things - stick to the facts and you'll get a lot more support”

“LOL - someone must have just skimmed a Wikipedia article.”

“sorry, should I have posted a cartoon instead? would that have been better?”

“It's time for peps to namecall, like all his other 'discussions'.”

“The bushes have sprouted new commies.”

“Under many a right-wing military dictatorship the mentally and physically infirm are among the first to go, Stoviet.”

“Obama has repeatedly snubbed democratic allies Britain, France and Germany, failed to really stand for Iranian democracy, and now backs the Honduran communist who illegally tried to stay in power.

Typical Moonbat”

“Stoviet, are you going hiking with that pack of lies?”