Republican Rep. Joe Wilson is a douche b ag

“I'm simply asking you to explain how you reached that conclusion. There's no need to get emotional.

Limbaugh said so....”

“it's called research....


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obamacare-wont-cover-illegal-immigrants--55021087.html

From a report by The Congressional Research Service


Obamacare won't cover illegal immigrants? Yes it will, says Congressional Research Service
By: Mark Tapscott
Editorial Page Editor
08/26/09 10:58 AM EDT


Among the many claims being made durng the August recess by Democrats from President Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-NV, and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-CA, to the lowliest back-bencher is that Obamacare absolutely, positively, cannot possibly ever in a million, zillion years provide coverage to illegal immigrants.

Just this past weekend during his regular Saturday address - devoted to addressing what he called "false claims about reform" - Obama said he wants "an honest debate" on health care reform, "not one dominated by willful misrepresentations and outright distortions."

In what he called the "first myth" being spread by critics of his proposal for a government-run health care system, Obama said they are wrong in claiming illegal immigrants will be covered: "That is not true. Illegal immigrants would not be covered. That idea has not even been on the table." Obama said.

Well, Mr. President, that idea must have been tucked under a stack of background briefing papers over there in the corner of the table because the Congressional Research Service (CRS) says this about H.R. 3200, the Obamacare bill approved just before the recess by the House Energy and Commerce Committee chaired by Rep. Henry Waxman, D-CA:

"Under H.R. 3200, a 'Health Insurance Exchange' would begin operation in 2013 and would offer private plans alongside a public option�H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens�whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently�participating in the Exchange."

CRS also notes that the bill has no provision for requiring those seeking coverage or services to provided proof of citizenship. So, absent some major amendments to the legislation and a credible, concrete enforcement effort in action, looks like the myth on this issue is the one being spread by Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et. al.



I'll grant you that this is an op ed piece about the report but there it is in black and whitein the CRS's own words from the report. Read the second to the last paragraph again....IT DOESN'T CONTAIN ANY RESTRICTIONS ON NON-CITIZENS.

Clearly, Obama lies, and now so do you...”

“What do you mean 'now'?
Moonbats could not live with themselves without lying.”

“A whole new set of laws pertaining to illegals could have been written over the last 14 years when all the while republicans ran the house and Senate, before those awful dems came along and took that control away.”

“Instead, the Republicans crashed the economy sending millions of illegals back across the border. That's showin' em.”

“OK strat... now we're getting somewhere.

I posted a link to the bill to make it easier for you. You claim to have dissected the "bills" so I assumed you've read them all a few times. I wanted to make sure we were talking about the same bill. My understanding is that everyone is working off of HR 3200: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.txt.pdf



If you'll scroll to page 143, you'll find this passage:

SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.
Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.



Can you explain how Obama saying: "There are also those who claim that our reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally." constitutes a lie? How am I now a liar?

(Please keep your insults and name-calling to yourself. It is disrespectful and hardly in character for someone who yearns for the national unity we felt on 9/12.)”

“Please keep your insults and name-calling to yourself. It is disrespectful and hardly in character for someone who yearns for the national unity we felt on 9/12.)�
viOLiN
9:10:27 PM
9/16/09

*snicker*@vileboy”

“Yeah, he's not gonna "insure" them but they will still get benefits is they are in the "exchange". He's not even going to ask them if they are citizens, so...you do the math. Plus, by all accounts this is gonna be another trillion on the pile of dept he's already racked up. Obama and his crew can't be trusted. He hangs out with Bill Ayers, Wayne and Dale Rafkie, Van Jones, CHarlie Wrangle, Harry Reid(called Bush a liar nd mush worse), Cas Sunstein, Govenor Blago, Rev Wright, the list goes on and on and on and on and on and on. Add to that the trillions of dollars of our money he's spent, hooking up the unions at every turn, taking over GM and Chrysler, then you have the cash for clunkers clusterphuc, the ACORN scandals, taking over the mortage industry, Federalizing banking, monitizing our own dept, printing money like it's cotton candy.....Sketchy is what sketchy does. I don't trust them. Anyone who does is blind or foolish.”

“So if the bill, as you admit, won't insure illegal aliens, how is Obama's statement ("There are also those who claim that our reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.") a lie?”

“... and what benefits would they receive in the insurance exchange? The opportunity to by private insurance without government subsidy like they already can?”

“He's lied so many times, why would you trust him now? He's a liar. This isn't about healthcare. It's about a massive Washington power grab. If he/they were serious about the illegals and abortions they wouldn't have shot down the amendments banning the coverage.”

“All emotion. Wasn't that the knock on "libbies"? Sounds like some people only have one emotion....hate-filled anger.”

“Okay so Vile, the Mommy Government won't "pay" for illegals...but the Hospitals will still be REQUIRED to treat them (come on do you believe they will risk turning the illegals or suspect illegals away?)

Eventually the bills will run up so high (refer California) that the government will HAVE to step in and pay for it.

Are you denying that this is EXACTLY the way it will go? You know as well as anyone the purpose is for the camel to get his nose under the edge of the tent. Without a dedicated plan to remove illegals they will continue to come in.

Its semantics. You are smart enough to recognize that.”

“So many FEEEEEEEELINGS...”

“But, but, yelling makes me feel so good.”

“#&%!$ting one's trousers is way better than yelling, or so I'm told.”

“fail
last edited: 9/17/09 8:13:42 AM”

“California passed Prop. 187(with 61% of the vote) that denied all publicly funded services to illegals , but the court shut it down .

nolanchart.com/article6614.html

I can't get this to open the Prop 187 page it just goes to home.
last edited: 9/17/09 8:15:24 AM”

“Do people really want to turn away someone from emergency care if they can't prove citizenship? If someone with an accent shows up at an emergency room after being hit by a car or with a gun shot wound they should be allowed to die?!

Is that where you guys are headed?

Jesus has a warning for people like you.”

“Vile is so silly. By law, no one can be turned away from an ER if they are hurt.”

“What about a communist accent, Viola?”

“I am Svetlana! Treat my wounds you capitalist!”

““Do people really want to turn away someone from emergency care if they can't prove citizenship? If someone with an accent shows up at an emergency room after being hit by a car or with a gun shot wound they should be allowed to die?!

Is that where you guys are headed?

Jesus has a warning for people like you.”
vioLin
12:20:19 PM
9/17/09

nah, if they make it to the emergency room they should get basic emergency care. The better thing would be to gun them down on the border first. Like a game show. Fortify the border using defenders armed with supercool real weapons and explosives. The defenders would be costumed and have names like Turbo, Lightning, Nitro, Blaze, Storm, Viper, Sabre, etc. Each week we can include guest defenders to keep the ratings up. Make a 10 miles strip of "game zone" land. Then any border jumpers who make it across win a green card.”

“Yeah, wait until that fifteen-year-old kid is tired and dehydrated from walking across the desert. Easier that way.”

“Everyone should buy a gun. You never know when you are going to wake up and realize,' I am a commie and don't have a gun so I can save america from myself'.”

“Gee Pops, tell us what the commies were like in the old days!

"Well sonny, they were just as scary as the imaginary commies that you have to deal with nowadays, only scarier."”

“Irish commie. Next thing you know the guy will be playing old-timey music on a geetar.”

“How about What Do Ya Do With A Drunken Sailor?

We can make up our own satanic verses.”

“Count me in, Beelzebub!”

“Hyway, do you remember the milk cow border fencing that had gay swordsmen in green tights on the backs of the cow and helped move the cows southward as the manure piled higher and farther to the south?”

“So Vile really chooses not to explain WHO would end up paying for the illegals and by omission agrees that eventually the Leftists Would find a way to make paying for the illegals LEGAL!!!!

Thank you Vile baby.”

“GARN! Foiled again!”

“When Old Joe googles up his name, this thread is gonna pop up. Makes a man proud.”

“I googled Joe Wilson and didn't find any Trail Talk hits in the first 5 pages. We need to step up our game.”

“actually, this is the first hit ...


How Joe Wilson's Heckle Became a Campaign Cash Cow‎ - 1 hour ago
Joe Wilson a favor by rebuking him on the House floor? In the week since the South Carolina Republican interrupted President Obama's speech, Wilson has ...
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Somehow, I think he can live with that.”

“He might start calling himself "Addison" again.”

“WTF??? wow we went through a whole day of Vile baby praising and defending the PREZBO on his NO illegal pleadge...then certain BRILLAINT posters made the suggestion that maybe ...just maybe the whole "illegals" (read that a CRIMINALS there) thing would be solved by declaring them "legal". I.e. a bait and switch.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/18/obama-ties-immigration-to-health-care-battle/?feat=home_cube_position1

Mr. Obama added, "If anything, this debate underscores the necessity of passing comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all."

Republicans said that amounts to an amnesty, calling it a backdoor effort to make sure current illegal immigrants get health care.

JUST F'ing brilliant. Its like declaring Rape over...and then just making rape not a crime.”

“Back to work lazy civil servant!

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“It really is like about a 220-pound bag of douche.... only walking and talking and having some other douchebags sending it money.”

“It's like health care, the drug war, the wetback war all in one--LEGALIZE IT. Why have half assed rules that can't be enforced and why have the gov halfway into HC, because it's just going to be blamed for everything anyway andhelp make the private sectors rich.

Damn XL, did you finally figure out how to get rid of crime? Rape has a victim.
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“joe is a hero, I will send him my bible signed by Sarah Palin”

“LOL...as soon as you quit molesting your elderly patients.”

“Of course his fellow douchebags cannot see the douchebag for what a douchebag he truly is.

"Looking at the world through your douche-colored glasses ---- "

”

“Better clean your glasses and take a look at the guy that campaigned inn Disneyland and now is thrown out in a real world where things aren't as he imagined back on the Stump.”

“
All Hail!





King of the Douchebags

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“President Obama said this week that his health care plan won't cover illegal immigrants, but argued that's all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage.”

“No, we already have a King Douchebag.

You can be the Queen Douchebag, but you'll have to wear a smaller crown.”

“Addison with Walmart Condom 2nds.”

“SNL: The back story to the Wilson debacle: http://www.hulu.com/watch/96393/saturday-night-live-update-thursday-republican-meeting
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