How Cold of Weather Can I Run My Gas Sto ve In?

“This is a complicated subject, affected by a variety of factors, but complex or no, I give the question my best shot on my blog: How Cold of Weather Can I Run My Gas Stove In?

I give both a simple answer for easy planning purposes and a more complex answer for those who really want to get into the details.

Have a look if you like,

HJ”

“Either buy an ad, post the info on TT, or quit pimping your blog.”

“Sleep with the cannister and only expose to the cold while using. I have yet to run into any issues and I've used the cannister is all weather conditions. If you plan on melting snow then bring a white gas stove. Simple enough that I don't have to read blogs or do complicated tests as this has all been done 'in the field'.”

“wow.. but yeah. My white gas stove is my "go to" in ALL conditions.. but my canister stove(s) has never failed me.. and yes Sandy -- 100% agreement in all aspects.”

“So when you say GAS?.. you really meant canister? I was reading your blog. I never refer to my technitrail as a GAS stove.. that would be my other stove that I'd refer to as a GAS stove... ?”

“To Stovie and anyone else: Actually our policy has been to allow people to promote things - especially when they contain useful and relevant information - as long as the poster is willing to engage with other members. Overselling can be a problem, especially when there are things for sale. And, of course, posters are welcome to give their opinions, postitive or negative of the products offered.

Personally, I'm happy to see the additional on topic posts and discussion & I agree with points offered by sandyann and town dog.

To answer TD, I think the difference in terms relates to two meanings of "gas" - one meaning is gas as in gasoline and similar products. The other is gas as in gaseous, not liquid. It sounds like most of us are thinking of the former kind of "gas" while the blog uses the latter.”

“For those not interested, you can just not click on the link. :)

For those who are interested, there's a lot of good information.

And yes in answer to the question, by gas I mean canister stoves not gasoline.

You'll have to pardon me, I need to go wax my Cadillac and get my purple suit from the cleaners so I can "pimp my blog" properly. :)

HJ
Adventures in Stoving”

“Sandyann wrote: > “Sleep with the cannister and only expose to the cold while using. I have yet to run into any issues and I've used the cannister is all weather conditions. Good points, AND I think that there is some good info on my blog and my magazine articles -- for those who are interested.

HJ
Adventures in Stoving”

“I know you do..lol”

“The problem I have is with a half-empty canister, even when I sleep with a "cold weather mix" and shake the thing while using it's not equal to 10*F and 1000'AMSL”

“Oh yeah. One other critical item to remember. Do not let your cannister stove get wet and then freeze (pocket rocket, snowpeak, etc). You will have to wait for it to defrost and then shake all moisture out before trying to use. You'll never get a flame otherwise. I learned this the extremely hard way on a bitterly cold morning. Put the stove away with the cannister to prevent this from happening.”

“How can a guy with such an informative well written blog write such a convoluted thread title?”

“good question..I used my pepsi can stove in 12 degree snowy weather. worked well..

but yes sleeping with your fuel in a good idea.”

““How can a guy with such an informative well written blog write such a convoluted thread title?”

lol. Yeah, that kind of sucked, hunh? Suggest a better title, and I'll use it. This offer good on TT only. You heard it here. :)

HJ
Adventures in Stoving”

“> “The problem I have is with a half-empty canister, even when I sleep with a "cold weather mix" and shake the thing while using it's not equal to 10*F and 1000'AMSL”

Yeah, the closer you get to empty, the less propane you have because the propane burns off at a faster rate. Toward the end of the life of a canister, there's no propane left at all, and your cold weather performance goes to heck in a hand basket.

HJ
Adventures in Stoving”

“Dude, the constant posting of your link smacks of spam.

Ok, I think I know what you mean by the title, but I am not really sure because of the wording. But how about this title: "What is the lowest outdoor temperature for burning a gas stove?"

Welcome to TT, by the way.”

“Why would anyone want to burn a stove, Creeky? ;-)”

“That must be a Minnesotan expression. I've never heard of "running" stove though. How about "using a gas stove". Is that better, Stovie?”

“> “Why would anyone want to burn a stove, Creeky? ;-)”

lol.

Maybe "using" is a better word.

Not trying to spam anyone with a link under my initials. Just putting it out there.

HJ
(I have a blog. You guess the address) :)”

“IDK, Everytime I read "adventures in stoving" it makes me laugh...I'll probably wear off..

The constant self promotion doesn't really bother me...and there really is just about every thing one would ever need to know about stoves on his blog. I've decided to admire the hard work. ;)”

“Hey, I'm improving your vocabulary. Stoving as a word? Who knew? :)

HJ”

“Using a canister stove is better. ;-)”

“Sounds good. Give me a full title, and I think we're there.

HJ
Do NOT Click Here or you'll help me pimp my blog”

“lol.

HJ
Adventures in Stoving”

“Stovie. Go ahead and express your opinions, but please do so without calling other people names (yes, I deleted a your name calling post).”

“BTW: Nice CYA by deleting the personal attack by your fellow 'mod'.”

“HJ, hang in there.
To all, HJ is a fellow Stovie, we collect camping/backpacking stoves mostly. All kinds, new or old, good or bad.
At least this is bping related.
Duane”

“We all have profiles here.. and most of us could spam the world with our predigrees. In a nice way.. ?.. My idea of what used to set all of us apart.. we all know who we are..”

“Hi, Duane,

Thank you. But what's this about me collecting "bad" stoves? There are no bad stoves. ;)

(OK, well, I guess I do have to admit that some stoves are better than others)

Did you take your Rapidfire out this past weekend? How did it go?

HJ
Adventures in Stoving”

“"There are no bad stoves"



...except Chinese stoves, isn't that right Jim?”

“lol.

All right, all right. I suppose if a stove blows up and kills you, that it could be considered a bad stove.

Sheesh, what did stoves ever do to you? ;)

HJ
Adventures in Stoving”

“In all seriousness, DO be very cautious regarding stoves from China. See below my "signature."

HJ
Adventures in Stoving

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1416/08 Norway Category: Gas appliances
Product: Multi-fuel burner and gas lamp

Brand: TYLDUM
Type/number of model: BRS-6 Moonwalker/Camp 6, BRS-8 Booster Multifuel Z-498, BRS-21 Wind Resistant Gas Lamp Z-497, BRS-9 Gasoline/Gas Multi Stove, HM166-L3 Mini gas cooker/ Gas Burner 2800W Z-358, HM166-L6 1/2 Versitale camping oil gas furnace/Himalaya Varifuel Z-388 2/Himalaya Gas burner Z-388-1, HM166-L1 Gas burner, HM166-L9 Camping stove.

Description: Gas burners and gas lamps intended for outdoor use.

Country of origin: China

Burns

The product poses a risk of burns and explosion because it is made inaccurate in many details, e.g. gaskets, surface towards gaskets. This may lead to gas leakage and fire from e.g. beneath the nozzle and the change between hose and tube.

One incident reported.
Voluntary withdrawal from the market by the importer. ”

“Uh oh ... http://www.outdoortracks.com/product_info.php/products_id/266

That's my stove! You really should take this thing on trade, for the research value.”

“HJ, I thought of the Rapidfire since I have so many canisters, instead, I took two old G's it turned out. I had to take a close look as the silver/gray one had the crossing pot supports, but otherwise except for color, was identical to the blue one with the four separate supports. Both ran great. I tested the windscreen, at a simmer (yes it will simmer some) with the ws removed, no action in my pot, but put the ws back and the pot started simmering again. Here I thought I had two XGK II's but may only have one after looking at the G I had on this bp trip. Now I need to take my lightly used GK out, another blue stove, love them!
Duane”

““Uh oh ... http://www.outdoortracks.com/product_info.php/products_id/266

Thats my stove! You really should take this thing on trade, for the research value.”

Which research value are you talking about? The burn unit at my local University hospital? ;)

HJ
Adventures in Stoving
last edited: 11/30/11 11:15:55 AM”

““HJ, I thought of the Rapidfire since I have so many canisters, instead, I took two old G's it turned out. I had to take a close look as the silver/gray one had the crossing pot supports, but otherwise except for color, was identical to the blue one with the four separate supports. Both ran great. I tested the windscreen, at a simmer (yes it will simmer some) with the ws removed, no action in my pot, but put the ws back and the pot started simmering again. Here I thought I had two XGK II's but may only have one after looking at the G I had on this bp trip. Now I need to take my lightly used GK out, another blue stove, love them!
Duane”

Hi, Duane, if your G has the crossed pot supports (which are superior in my mind), then those are an after market modification. The crossed pots supports came with the late model XGK II (the XGK "Expedition" that we've talked about before), but a lot of people got rid of the danged floppy supports with the "X" supports came out because the "X" supports are so much better.

Hey, so when are you going to find me a nice GK? I've got a Coleman "X" stove reserved with your name on it... :)

HJ”

“ Which research value are you talking about? The burn unit at my local University hospital? ;)
. -HJ

A win/win. ;)

No really, I was thinking this stove could only be safely used in the hands of someone with a vast array of stove knowlege and experience. Afterall, that Coleman is probably made in China too..and variety being the spice that it is..”

“Yep. I'll know exactly what's going on when it explodes in my face. Now THAT would be an adventure in stoving. lol.

Hey, can people do PM's on this forum?

HJ
Adventures in Stoving”

“argggggggggggg”

“HJ, it seem the little later models are harder to come by then the MF, 9. My barely used, in the box GK with all the goodies is about the only one I have seen. You'd cry seeing how nice it is. I'll have to break down and fire it up out in the wilds.
Duane”

“Ah. GK rarer than 9? Interesting.

Well, then I'll just have to continue to hope. I've got a very nice "G," so I'll content myself with that vintage stove for now. It probably would run with kero if I changed the jet and double primed.

HJ
Adventures in Stoving”