Typical Behavior for Democrats

“Here's why the Democrats want to keep "counting" the votes over and over again. Check out this mainstream press link.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/florida_votamatic_001115.html”

“No, I refuse to look at that link. I'm tired of this crap. I'm ready for it to be over. I know, I know - it's only been just over a week, but still, I'm tired of hearing and seeing the crap that's oozed from the seams of our great democracy (eeewwww - I almost said "democrat").

One thing, tho. I think that by the election being so close it's kind of an indication of how well we're doing. You know, no mondo rifts or divisive issues - ie, war, famine, pestilence.

GOD BLESS AMERICA!
And Florida!
(or, as Sarabelle would say: "Flowerda")”

“Hey, they ain't ALL democrats.
Some of 'em are lapsed independents.”

“....And gender challenged Greenies'.”

“damn, sol, that bastard is getting away with it, too!”

“"Slosberg, a 53-year-old resident of nearby Boca Raton who owns a handbag company, recently won a seat in the state Legislature amid allegations he tried to buy his election."

I bet his number one product is the scum bag.

"When told of the incident, Palm Beach County?s supervisor of elections, Theresa LePore, declined to press charges, according to the report."

Wow, I'm suprised.

"In the primary election, Slosberg had barely squeaked past Levine. He reportedly had 50.5 percent of the votes to Levine?s 49.5 percent. Slosberg was declared the winner after a recount of the votes."

Only 1 percent? If you're going to cheat, at least cheat big time.”

“Ho-hummm, Yawwwnnn...I'm being baited by slanderous political posts, again. Ohh, the divisiveness of it all....(snore.............)”

“The democrats want a recount, because the old people in Florida couldn't see straight to vote, yet they have those same old people recounting ballots.”

“Florida Observers Say
Ballots Manipulated By
Democrat Examiner
By Steve Miller
The Washington Times http://www.washtimes.com
11-16-00

WEST PALM BEACH, Fl - Five observers to Saturday's hand count in Palm Beach County have filed affidavits in federal court charging that a Democratic county commissioner manipulated ballots so Al Gore would receive more votes than George W. Bush.

Carol Roberts, a de facto appointee to the three-member elections canvassing board, is accused in the filings of asking a Democratic observer to the count whether ballots should count and that she "twisted the ballots and poked her finger directly in sections of, and aggressively handled, the ballots."

On one occasion, observer John Grotta said in a sworn statement, Miss Roberts looked at a ballot and said " 'Unfortunately, the corners aren't detached,' as she was referring to a ballot that would have been a vote for Vice President Gore."

The most pointed charges in the affidavits were cited in a request by the Palm Beach Republican Party that Miss Roberts, a longtime Democrat, step down from the board because of her partisan behavior in last week's sample count of 4,600 ballots.

When the count found that Mr. Gore netted 19 more votes, Miss Roberts was adamant about a full recount, asserting that Mr. Gore could claim as many as 1,900 more votes based on the sampling.

Miss Roberts refused to remove herself from the panel, saying in a public statement " read by canvassing board chairman Charles Burton to a press gallery that is now an encampment outside the Emergency Operation Center here " that the count was done "in full view of public observers from both parties and cameras from all over the world.

"All board members examined and voted on all questioned ballots and nearly all votes were unanimous. . . . I will continue to be fair and impartial and will not recuse myself."

Yesterday, Miss Roberts publicly challenged the election powers of Secretary of State Katherine Harris, a Republican, in the recount dispute, saying Attorney General Robert Butterworth, a Democrat, had the proper authority. Mrs. Harris has been the target of Democrats, who claim she is partisan and must recuse herself.

The partisan rancor has completely divided the sides in the manual recount debate. Palm County's hand count was delayed yesterday pending the state Supreme Court's opinion on the legal standing of the process.

The charge against Miss Roberts "is not a witch hunt," said Mark Hoch, administrator for the county's Republican Party.

"We have complaints coming out of the woodwork, and most of the things we look at are unsubstantiated," Mr. Hoch said. "Carol Roberts, though, can be seen as truly partisan."

Miss Roberts arrived at the emergency center around 6:15 a.m. yesterday with a sheriff's deputy bodyguard and a personal assistant. As a vocal advocate of the manual count in both Palm Beach County and three other surrounding " and Democrat-dominated "counties, Miss Roberts has thrived on the controversy surrounding the recount.

At one point this week, Miss Roberts said she would go to jail to have the manual recount accomplished. In Palm Beach County, recounts by hand and machine have added 787 votes for Mr. Gore to an extra 119 for Mr. Bush " a net Gore pick up of 668.

The affidavits filed yesterday also include charges that elections workers were reluctant to reassess votes despite the protests of observers.

In one case, a worker refused to recount a stack of ballots that contained Bush votes, according to observer Mark Klimer.

Mr. Klimer's statement included the accusation that Miss Roberts picked up ballots from a stack that was to be evaluated later by the entire board and interspersed them with a stack of Gore votes.

He also said the ballot evaluation was inconsistent. Some ballots judged as Gore votes did not meet the agreed standards for a valid vote, the West Palm Beach banker said.

Mr. Klimer said yesterday he was in the counting room for 4 and 1/2 hours on Saturday. A Republican, Mr. Klimer said his interest was not partisan: "I was there to make sure it was fair."

"Beyond a shadow of a doubt, what I saw is the absolute truth," Mr. Klimer said.

Miss Roberts is one of three Democrats on the seven-member County Commission. She was elected in 1986 after serving 11 years on the West Palm Beach City Council.

When she became president of the Florida Association of Counties in 1996, Miss Roberts took some heat for marking the occasion with three days of festivities paid for with $55,000 from her business friends.”

“Ya snooze, ya lose, Georgie!”

“Oh, I'm SO tired of this.
Let's just send Jessie Ventura to the White House and stop this sh!t.”

“Vote smote !!!!!! bllllllah”

“Mel, you're a masochist. You just keep posting on this thread. (Come to think of it, so do I).
Solitary, there is another spin to that story (as usual), if you care to look for it. Spin, spin, spin, spin,spin...anyone getting dizzy yet?”

“dunadan,
I don't think Sol can see the spin to these stories. He's been "blinded by the spite". ;^)”

“My point is that there isn't going to be a real recount of the votes in the contested Florida counties. There's going to be a "reinterpretation" of the votes. The Demomcrats are going to use every technicality in the book to invalidate absentee ballots coming from military personnel (mostly Republican). Then when they figure out exactly how many votes they need to come up with to make Al Gore the President they will tamper with enough ballots to make him the winner.

Why do I feel this way? Eight years of a criminal Democratic administration can lead me to no other conclusion.”

“Opps!...Did I say Demomcrats? I meant to say Demon-crats.”

“Let's not forget Bush said over and over in many of his speeches. "I trust the people! I trust the people!".

Now he doesn't trust his fellow Americans in the recounts.

Hypocrisy, it's the Republican way.

God Bless America.”

“"To everything... spin, spin, spin ...
There is a season... spin, spin, spin...
And a time to every purpose under heaven...."

To paraphrase..... :-)”

“Artex
I think George Bush trusts the American people just fine. It's the "non-partisan" vote counters like the two mentioned above that he worries about.

He's probably seen this quote:
"Those that cast the votes decide nothing.
Those that count the votes decide everything"

Joseph Stalin”

“Did y'all hear about the incident where police in palm beach county confiscated a "votomatic" from a well known local democraps car? First he denied he had it, then he refused to give it back, saying he wanted to use it, although he did not say how he obtained it. Then the palm beach countys supervisor of elections, Theresa LePore, declined to press charges. read all about it at
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/florida_votamatic_00115.html

Bet if it was the other way around Janet Reno and the "jack booted thugs woulda been there enforcing "justice"

Then theirs the one where the democratic activist admits effort to change GOP electors votes.
http://foxnews.com/election_night/11700/beckell_norvell.sml

I hope I typed those right. Anyone that can read these and tell me there isn't anything corrupt going on ON THE PART OF THE DEMOCRAPS is in very deep denial.”

“Margo - Your targeting of all Democrats by the actions of two corrupt individuals is pretty disturbing.

Your broad accusatory tone is rather narrow minded and gives all Republicans a bad name.

Perhaps you and those two corrupt Democrats have more in common than you thought!”

“It's more than just 2. It seems to be the whole state of Florida. And I'm not a Republican or narrow minded, I just calls em likes I sees em. The fact I am calling what I am speaks volumes, for I am no lover of republicans. The dems have taken corruption to whole new levels.”

“Anyone catch the story about the garbled Hebrew-postmark ballot? An absentee ballot came from Israel with a Hebrew postmark. Of course, they needed to determine whether it had been mailed by election night. A call went out for a translator.

They also had to figure out what to do with the "diplomatic pouch" ballots. Those sent by official courier and not postmarked in the U.S. until they hit American soil after the election.

So this is what our election has come down to? Let Congress decide.”

“"No man is righteous"-St. Paul

"No political party is righteous!"
-Dunadan”

“Concerning the Democrats being painted corrupt by the actions of two. I'd say they ought to be. If they truly did not want corruption, then why aren't they condemming the actions of these two corrupt officials and corrcting their actions? Seems they are pretty happy to accept the actions of these two. And that makes them just as corrupt.

Just addressing the democrats right here. I ain't about to say the republicans are angels. But what is fair is fair.”

“It just goes on and on. Either this administration is one of the most bumbling bunch of idiots to ever rule (incompetent)or they truly have criminal intent. Here's another example of the fine mess Bill and Al have gotten us into.
Albright's Unnecessary
War In Kosovo
http://www.polyconomics.com/searchbase/11-16-00.html

11-18-00

Memo To: UN Ambassador Richard Holbrooke From: Peter Signorelli Re: Madeleine Albright's Disastrous War

As the U.S. diplomat who came closest to securing a non-military option for dealing with Serbia and the Kosovar Albanians, you may feel vindicated by the results of the recent municipal elections in Kosovo. In a sense, the province has come full circle, expressing overwhelming support for the party of Dr. Ibrahim Rugova, the Albania leader who supported a peaceful negotiation with Serbia and who opposed NATO's military option. It also turns out that former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Colin Powell was absolutely correct in his advice that the U.S. refrain from military action against Yugoslavia. And George Bush is correct in his perspective of disengaging the U.S. military from the Balkans. Both have been vindicated by the results of Kosovo-wide municipal elections held at the end of last month. That election result, in which out of 25 Albanian political parties fielding candidates the Democratic League of Kosova of Rugova took approximately 60% of the Albanian Kosovarsí vote, is poignant testimony that U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright's disastrous war against Serbia was unnecessary.

Dr. Rugova, as you know, for ten years led Kosovo's non-violent resistance to Serbia's abrogation of its autonomy and still is considered by many Kosovo Albanians as their symbolic President. In years since his unofficial election as "president" (not recognized by Serbia), Rugova created a parallel, illegal state for the Albanians with its own education and health care system and taxation. He always has supported independence as a goal, but always preferring the option of negotiated, non-military approaches with Serbia. We here at Polyconomics strongly urged the Clinton administration to lend its support to Rugova, as he not only was the single-most trusted Kosovar Albanian leader, but also was the only Albanian leader seeking non-military options for the resolution of the dire situation of Albanians under Serbia. Rugovaís perspective, however, collided with the U.S. Secretary of State's agenda to bomb Serbia into compliance with her agenda. When Rugova opposed arming the paramilitary Kosova Liberation Army, disputed NATO's war option and faulted the conditions being imposed by the U.S. at the Rambouilett negotiations, Albright eased him out, and KLA leader Hashim Thaci was elevated as the Kosovar Albanian authority. Sec. Albright simply would not be deterred from her war and a widespread media campaign in the West was conducted to diminish Rugova's authority and appeal, portraying him as a traitor to the Albanians for insisting that a negotiated, non-violent solution to the Kosovo crisis still was possible and preferable.

Thaci and the KLA were "unknown figures, raising money illegally through smuggling, or worse," as the State Department's James Rubin revealed, yet Albright ordered him to work with Thaci, even though the KLA was breaking the October cease-fire. As Rubin put it recently, "The entire US strategy to pressure [Slobodan] Milosevic [was] now dependent on this mysterious rebel." Although the Serbs had been saying for weeks that they would accept lightly-armed UN personnel rather than NATO peacekeepers in Kosovo, Albright shot down any attempt to pursue that route. Italian Foreign Minister Lamberto Dini recently reported that Albright was adamant, cutting off his attempts to pursue that option with a curt "Lamberto....The whole point is for the Serbs to accept a NATO [military occupation] force."

So what did Albrightís war accomplish? Destruction of Serbiaís infrastructure, disruption of trade relations among Danube River-bordered Balkan countries, mass population dispersals, perhaps more deaths of Albanian Kosovars by NATOís bombings than by Serb paramilitary forces, the legitimization and arming of an Albanian insurgent force throughout the province, and not much else. The province is back where it was prior to Albright's war, with Rugova's perspective for peaceful negotiations with Serbia still the dominant sentiment among the population.”

“I've stayed away from posting lately so that I could be more constructive with my efforts on this issue.

I've had two letters published in the local paper. I've written to all my State's senators and congressmen as well as participating in a protest rally.

I hope this is typical behavior for a Democrat, because it's the only way the integrity of the system will be maintained.

All this rehtoric has droned on to the point of being dogmatic.

For me this comes down to one thing. Our elections are either run fair or they're crooked. If it's a fair election, whoever wins is the president and that settles it. If the process is crooked then whoever is usurping our voting rights as Americans should be cast down as an enemy of the people.

And whoever doesn't like it can eat my shorts.”

“What make you think this election is crooked?”

“i'm glad i went backpacking this weekend.

i am tired, now.

i'm glad to be home, with my wife. being away from her makes me appreciate every second that i am with her.

i can't wait to see my grandmother on thanksgiving. she makes the best iced tea. i might go fishing in her pond, too.”

“That opinion about Kosovo is quite a minority fringe opinion. I can't buy it at all. It ignores the "ethnic cleansing" tactics of the Serbs.

Secondly it ignores a fundamental reason for current dissatisfaction with the KLA... they have shown a tendency towards corruption. What I've seen in news and analysis by people that know Kosovo, it is domestic politics... not any changed opinion about armed struggle with Serbia and military steps toward succession that lie behind the new vote.

Study news from many sources (including conflicting ones) and work things out for yourself.

Our major allies consider Clinton to be one of the smartest and most strategically astute presidents we have had. I dunno how to compare him to George Sr. who seemed quite astute, or to the Nixon Kissenger team who were brilliant.”

“Hey, Raddy....

Your Gramma got room for two of us to fish in her pond?
How does she like her iced tea?”

“made in the sun, with lotsa sugar.

come on down to flaw-rida. it'll take you one step closer to the grand title of 'bahama mama'.

the myers was a good start, though.”

“Bahamama....
And Myers, too.
I like the way that sounds.
How close to all that election bullsh!t do you live?”

“i moved away from all of that bullsh!t. i live in atlanta, now, where there is a whole different kind of bullsh!t. LOL!!!!”

“Our frank and open
deep conversations
they get me nowhere
they bring me down, so
give it a rest, won't you?
give me a cigarette
God give me patience
just no more conversation

Give us a drink
and make it quick
or else I'm gonna be sick
sick all over
your frankly vulgar
red pullover
now see how the colours blend

Our frank and open
deep conversations
they get me nowhere
they bring me down, so
give it a rest, won't you?
now will you just give over
the world may be ending
but look, I'm only human

Give us a drink
and make it quick
or else I'm gonna be sick
all over
your frankly vulgar
red pullover
now see how the two colours blend

Won't somebody stop me
from thinking all the time
about everything
so deeply
so bleakly

-Morrissey, Kill Uncle”

“We, the people of Florida, are holding this election hostage. When you
promise to stop sending us your old people, we will release your election.

Bwaaaahahahahaha!”

“okay, you win arclite. We all cry UNCLE!”

“Stuff your election kidnapping up your @^%$ arclite.

We, the ppl of Tennessee, will NEVUHH stop sending you our hobbly elders to Florida!!!!!!!

Hehe”

“I hate to be the bearer of bad new pedxing but the Serbian "ethnic cleansing" of Albanians was a sham. There are fewer than 2200 confirmed Albanian deaths in Kodovo (not the 100,00 you heard about from CNN, Clinton, and Albright. The US military and outside UN authorities cannot actually confirm that even those deaths were caused by Serbians commiting war crimes. Some were just killed in battle.

Basically Clinton used Serbia as a diversion for his troubles back home. He wagged the dog real good. He took a defensive organization, NATO, and waged war on a country to effect the outcome of a civil war.
By charter NATO member countries are only allowed to come to the aid of a NATO member country in the event of attack by a non-NATO advisary.

NATO has never, until this time, been used in an aggressive manner. This is what is really scary to the Chinese and Russians.
They are wondering just what in the hell NATO is up. They are wondering if NATO will step in in places like Tibet or Chezneya (sp?).

It was a dangerous precedent and the Clinton/Gore administration took us there. Only the idiot Tony Blair, PM of the UK, and a Clinton clone thpought this was a good idea. The rest of NATO have been trying to distance themselves from this mess bigtime. That's why they won't come through with the funds they promised to help pay for the occupation of Serbia. And that's why we're still there and will be for ten to twenty years if the Gore Democrats have there way. It was sheer folly to get involved there. And only a fool like Clinton would rush right in.
S”

“i heard that because of the fighting over the election, the serbs are sending peacekeeping troops over here.”

“I don't mind the recount counting votes where the chad was hanging from one corner or attached by only on side. That is a clear intent to vote, but when the democrats try and count dimpled chads as votes, that's where I draw the line. You could dimple the ballot by placing the punch in a hole and then realize that it was the wrong hole. Also, how come this is the first year that the ballots are confusing? They have been using them for years. You would think that the people would have learned in all their years of voting how to use the ballot.
Also did you hear about how a bunch of Floridian soldiers were sent on maneuvers the day after absentee ballots were due? They couldn't vote at all. Thank you Clinton.”

“If the election rules implicitly state it is the vote'rs responsibility to completely remove the chad, including rubbing the back of the ballot to remove, hanging, swinging or dingle berry chads. Why should we concern ourselves with voter intent?

Well, I made up the part about the dingle berries, but the rest of it is in the ballot instructions.”

“More good stuff

Dimples - One Explanation
From J.J. Pace
11-23-00

It was suggested I forward this posting to you......I heard it on the Jon Mathew's Show this morning (Nov 22)....KPRC 950/KJOJ880 in Houston, TX....


Interesting point brought up on local talk-radio this morning....

A guy had been in Fla not too long ago. His group was working in a warehouse where about 150 voting machines were being stored.

Of course they ended up "playing" with the machines, and it seems that if more than one ballot was inserted, the first one was "punched"..the second one had a hanging chad, while the third one had a "dimple"....amazing....

Makes one wonder how many ballots were handed to those deemed to be voting the "politically correct" way.....hmmmmmmmm???????

On Brian Williams' show last night, he attempted to produce a hanging chad or a dimple on a single ballot, with many tries, but finally had to admit it was impossible not to dislodge the chad.

J.J. Pace, TX”

“More trash”

“Cool.   A genuine imitation Stovestomper tantrum.   Are you sure you can't bring up some more?”

“Na..i knew you would look at them and reply somewhere TILT... you are simple...
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“Please quit telling people you're Irish.   It's embarassing to the rest of us.”

“Heck... I'm not Irish...... I just wanted you to think I was..TILT
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“So it was intended purely as an ethnic slur.”

“TILT... you are simple...
Refrigerator
8:54:16 PM

Yep.

Ol' tiltypoo thinks posting true news items about the lies the Demorats,and he, tells is having a "tantrum".
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

Fryed any more children, tiltypoo?
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