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It's better to have a competent lying slut as President, that an incompetent.
pedxing
4:02:05 PM
11/18/05

Or in Clinton's case an incompetent, lying slut.
NoProb
4:52:06 PM
11/18/05

All of you are "CAMP", really "CAMP".
salebored
6:33:38 PM
11/18/05


last edited: 9/28/06 7:21:21 PM
Violin
7:21:04 PM
9/28/06

“”

Even I think there's more than that V.
Nigal
7:21:55 PM
9/28/06


Don’t forget about the stain on the lapel of your favorite sport coat ya got when he came campaigning through NJ in ‘95. :P
Nigal
7:24:19 PM
9/28/06

Silly dim violin still can not figure out the Fuego button.

Everyone knows Clinton's legacy is on a certain blue dress.
[VBG]
last edited: 9/28/06 7:34:17 PM
StoveStomper
7:26:38 PM
9/28/06

StoveStomper
7:33:09 PM
9/28/06



StoveStomper
11:02:58 AM
9/29/06

The Clinton legacy is very similar to the Chamberlain legacy in England from 1937-40.

Peace in our time.
manuka
11:10:22 AM
9/29/06

The Clinton legacy will be a narcissitic campaign that ignored the realities of life. It was the ultimate example of the 60 flower child in a position of power.
XL400236
1:47:20 PM
9/29/06

Nigal
1:55:09 PM
9/29/06

Frankly, other than the blowjob fiasco, I can't see how anyone can complain about how the country was run during the Clinton Administration.
chili
7:51:48 PM
9/29/06

The Republicans are better at revisionist history.

Was it worse that Clinton got a blow job or that George W. Bush got caught driving drunk?

If there was an investigation of George H.W. Bush, would he have had to testify about his supposed affair with Jennifer Fitgerald?

But the Republicans have been a more disciplined party. They push the play more than Democrats do.

And if you control the pace of the game, you control the game.

But can they spin their way out of Iraq?
reformed lurker
9:12:20 PM
9/29/06

It's funny how hard the Republican's and Faux News Manufacturers are trying to spin Clinton's response as a melt down. The facts are rather uncomfortable to them.
pedxing
11:40:02 AM
9/30/06

Libbies Spin.
The facts about the Plame lies are rather uncomfortable to Libbies.

The 'fact' is Clinton lost it.
Wag that finger! LOL

Facts don't matter anymore, GGGGStomper.

It's all about how you can spin events.

And it's all about getting your base to believe.

In reality, Reagan shouldn't have pulled the troops from Lebanon and Bush shouldn't have given de facto approval for Saddam's invasion of Kuwait and Clinton should have invaded Afghanistan and Bush should have done more than spin the magic 8 ball before invading Iraq.

But, none of that happened.

There is enough blame to go around.

But it doesn't really matter. Bush will still have his "Iraq Problem" whether he has a one seat majority or a one seat minority in either house the day after the election.

Does he have a plan?

Personally, I like the scenario of a one seat Republican majority in both houses so that they can keep taking it up the ass.
reformed lurker
6:51:51 PM
9/30/06

Sarge
2:54:48 PM
9/16/07

Good lookin' kids there.

Hey, that looks like a '68 Chevy pickup in the background!!

I had a couple of 1966's and a '70.
last edited: 9/16/07 3:02:24 PM
MarkO
3:02:24 PM
9/16/07

Wow.  They look like two people from the 60s.

I'm guessing Sarge could've placed highly in a Ross Perot look-alike contest(?)
Tilt
3:10:17 PM
9/16/07

Nice Shoes !!
MarkO
3:14:16 PM
9/16/07

Nice 'Fro!   LOL
Tilt
3:15:52 PM
9/16/07

Who is that mystery man?
MarkO
3:17:33 PM
9/16/07

knot eye
Tilt
3:20:57 PM
9/16/07

Oh schit, I can feel the Wrath of Neo-Khan already!

I'm gonna burn in Hell, Michigan.
MarkO
3:27:56 PM
9/16/07

Here's a classic for ya ----
Tilt
3:51:34 PM
9/16/07

Who you callin' Knot Eye??
MarkO
3:53:57 PM
9/16/07

I don't know -------- LMAO
Tilt
4:10:58 PM
9/16/07

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- North Korea has an untested ballistic missile capable of hitting the United States, top U.S. intelligence officials said Wednesday.




I think this along with 3000 dead at 9/11 is going to be the post script of the 42nd Administration.
XL400236
4:19:54 PM
9/16/07

Pffr... Does it never occur to anyone that untested means nobody knows squat about it is capable of?
Ramblinrev
4:29:31 PM
9/16/07

Geez Tilt, you're a freakin' computer whizz!!

Check the properties, knucklehead................even a Luddite like me knows that!

Is anyone daft enough to believe that North Korea would "hit" the U.S. with anything?

That would be the biggest case of "suicide by cop" in world history.

Did Willy Jeff give Ding Dong Ill that missile??
That ONE UNTESTED missile???

Oh crap, I'm moving to Ireland tomorrow.
I'm so scared!!!!!!
MarkO
4:31:44 PM
9/16/07

No Marky Mark his buddy Gorelick setup a block between the agencies so Loral Aerospace could sell technology to China and N. Korea (marky Mark remember when the Chink Missiles went KABOOM on the launch pad?)


Then there is this....its great.
XL400236
4:58:18 PM
9/16/07

I don't "remember" your fractured fair tales version of history XLax, because it didn't happen.
MarkO
5:00:15 PM
9/16/07

BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ....WRONGO there MARKY MARK

http://www.fas.org/news/china/1998/booklet.htm

August 19, 1998

The China-Technology Transfer Handbook


Did the President put a higher priority on commerce with China than on American security?

Beginning in April, the New York Times ran a series of articles that investigated the complex relationship between the U.S. aerospace industry, the Clinton White House, and the People’s Republic of China. The reporting detailed how the Clinton administration re-prioritized technology transfer policies to the benefit of U.S. aerospace companies—and possibly the benefit of Communist China’s nuclear missile and space program.

Since then, many in Congress, the media, and the foreign policy community have leveled serious questions about the role the Clinton administration played in the transfer of sensitive technology to China and whether these transfers affected national security.

The questions about national security and missile proliferation are so sensitive, so far ranging, and so important that at least six congressional committees have held hearings on the subject. These include the Science, National Security, International Relations, and Select Intelligence committees in the House; and the Senate Government Affairs and Senate Select Intelligence committees.

Many stories have been written and many questions have been raised. The scope of the situation seems to broaden in its complexity with almost weekly revelations. The questions, which remain largely unanswered, have sparked the creation of a select investigative committee in the House, chaired by Rep. Christopher Cox.

This handbook is a compilation of the many resources Congressional leaders are using as they try to determine if America’s national security has been harmed. Its purpose is to make sense of an ever-widening and complex scandal.



ANd then there is...

Clinton Gave China Chips for Nuclear War
Charles R. Smith
Wednesday, Oct. 1, 2003
Newly declassified documents show that President Bill Clinton personally approved the transfer to China of advanced space technology that can be used for nuclear combat.
The documents show that in 1996 Clinton approved the export of radiation hardened chip sets to China. The specialized chips are necessary for fighting a nuclear war.

"Waivers may be granted upon a national interest determination," states a Commerce Department document titled "U.S. Sanctions on China."

"The President has approved a series of satellite related waivers in recent months, most recently in November, 1996 for export of radiation hardened chip sets for a Chinese meteorological satellite," noted the Commerce Department documents.

These special computer chips are designed to function while being bombarded by intense radiation. Radiation hardened chips are considered critical for atomic warfare and are required by advanced nuclear tipped missiles.

Judicial Watch obtained the documents through the Freedom of Information Act, a Washington-based political watchdog group.

Several documents were withheld from release by the U.S. Commerce Department for commercial and personal privacy exemptions, but none of the documents were withheld for national security reasons. Judicial Watch is expected to appeal the withholdings.

Decade of Betrayal

U.S. intelligence sources stated that the newly released documents illustrate the extent to which the Clinton White House placed trade – and trade with China specifically – above national security.

"In all likelihood we will be glowing in the dark before we discover the true extent of the Clinton decade of betrayal," stated Rick Fisher, Asian Security Fellow at the Center for Security Policy.

"If it was indeed intended for a new PRC weather satellite, then it is possible that it was used for their new polar orbit weather satellites. This is significant because the Chinese themselves acknowledge that their polar orbit weather satellites directly contribute to their long-range missile targeting capability. This becomes even more important for their new smaller but more accurate warheads, used on their new DF-31, DF-31A, DF-5 Mod2 and JL-2 missiles. If they encounter significant weather, warhead accuracy degrades, reducing their utility," stated Fisher.

"Inasmuch as similar U.S. military weather satellites perform the same missions, the Clinton Administration had to have known they were assisting a PLA strategic military capability," concluded Fisher.

In addition, the Chinese military is clearly interested in acquiring advanced radiation hardened computer chips for its strategic nuclear arsenal.

U.S. Chips for PRC Nukes

Currently, China has only liquid fueled, long-range missiles, and the majority of them are based inside underground silos. These long-range rockets are reported to be "bore-sighted" – meaning the underground silos are aimed directly at target cities inside the United States.

The Chinese army is now attempting to shift its strategic nuclear arsenal to a solid-fuel "launch on command" capability. These new missiles are rail- and road-mobile and require sophisticated electronic guidance systems to accurately strike their intended targets.

As part of this upgrade, the Chinese army is also modifying its nuclear warhead designs to arm new survivable missiles such as the DF-31 and JL-2. Chinese engineers are planning to equip these new missiles with MIRV technology, allowing each missile to carry multiple nuclear warheads.

Again, the U.S. radiation hardened computer chip technology is a logical addition to the reconfiguration and upgrade of Chinese nuclear weapons.

Stolen U.S. Chips

Another critical element of the Clinton-supplied waiver is the fact that it took place during an investigation of Chinese espionage into missing U.S. radiation hardened satellite chips.

In February 1996, a Chinese Long March rocket carrying a Loral Intelsat satellite failed and crashed on lift-off. The Loral Intelsat payload was badly damaged. The Chinese intended to launch the Loral satellite into deep space as they had been paid to do by Loral CEO Bernard Schwartz.

However, fate took a twisted path, and so did the Chinese rocket. The Long March rocket failed on launch and crashed into a nearby Chinese village, killing over 200 innocent civilians. The failure of the Long March allowed the U.S. to recover the sealed satellite guidance box, which revealed the control board of radiation-hardened chips was missing.

The missing board from the Loral Intelsat satellite is no mystery. It quickly became obvious that Chinese engineers removed the special electronics and kept the board for examination. The stolen Loral electronics consist of radiation hardened, encrypted telemetry chips, stored in a secure flight control box similar to those found on airliners. The NSA changed all U.S. satellite codes as a result of the stolen Loral chips, costing American taxpayers millions of dollars.

1996 Illegal Campaign Donations

Another factor involved in the November 1996 waiver issued by then-President Clinton is the fact that illegal money entered the U.S. elections from the Chinese army. The money was donated to the DNC from a variety of sources including convicted Chinagate figures John Huang, Charlie "Yah-Lin" Trie and Johnny Chung.

The 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign readily accepted much of the money from the Chinese army sources without question, and in some cases took these donations in cash. The allegations of Chinese espionage and illegal campaign donations were never investigated properly.

The successful effort by China to obtain U.S. microchip technology included espionage, sabotage and perhaps bribery. The red intelligence windfall freed the Chinese army to more accurately target American cities with atomic weapons using advanced U.S technology.

The legacy that President Clinton left for the 21st century is a modern Chinese army equipped for global nuclear war.


* * * * * *
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/29/25139.shtml


AAAAAND Marky mark gets punked again!!!!! Go back to the Card Catalog and misfile some folders....
XL400236
5:18:33 PM
9/16/07

LOL>..how bout this from the WASHINGTON POST

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/missile/keystories.htm

Hill Conferees Agree to Return Satellite Export Licensing to State
September 19, 1998
A House-Senate conference has agreed to transfer export licensing authority, reversing a 1996 decision by President Clinton that came under fire this year amid allegations of unauthorized technology transfers to China and favoritism to a big campaign contributor.


Yeah Marky Mark your hero traded the safety of the ENTIRE NATION for some money.....T
XL400236
5:22:57 PM
9/16/07

clinton legacy?
Stains on an Intern's dress.
StoveStomper
5:29:34 PM
9/16/07

WOAH...I found it in an interview with Colonel North about his time in the military (interview on ZER PeEPLE Brokastink Services) LOL...PBS (so for libbies it IS the gospel.

Let me tell you, I've been one of those guys out there in the field. I've been one of the guys who was at the lower end of the totem pole. I know exactly how they feel about it. I can remember as a young lieutenant being sent into the DMZ in the divided Vietnam, from North Vietnam. And being told I couldn't take any more than 15 people with me 'cause some jerk in Washington said that was gonna be the policy. I know what it's like to be there. The fact of the matter is that it was not in the case of the Barry Seal operation an effort to in any way destroy their operation or put them in jeopardy. I understand it because I spent most of my life in that kind of circumstance wearing a green uniform as a U.S. Marine. The people in the field need to know that the government of the United States has within it people who really do care about them. And unfortunately, when cases like this happen, they're often left feeling holding the bag and thinking nobody does.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/special/north.html
Wow an officer who followed orders and DID HIS JOB and didn't come back whining about it after his return...HERO.

MARKO...YOU ARE TRULY a punk.
XL400236
6:13:06 PM
9/16/07

Guys, as the official thread bringer back upper, I must advise you that this isn't fuego. It's just intended to laugh at Bill and Hillary.
Sarge
7:15:04 PM
9/16/07

Well I for one am LAUGHING at the Clintons...even as the spectere of mushroom clouds over California loom.
XL400236
7:22:22 PM
9/16/07

As Junior's legacy goes down the toilet, they yearn for the Glory Days of the Clinton Administration?

When the Republicans were kicked to the curb back in November I asked this same question: WHY spray all this bile on everyone EXCEPT the Republican politicians who betrayed your trust and got themselves thrown out of office (and directly into prison in some cases)?

I say give credit where credit is due.

(and if you don't wise-up, it will only be 'worse' in 2008,  < GRIN >)
Tilt
8:38:29 PM
9/16/07

LOL...Ya think so huh tilt...well the Dems have done none better. NO I think eventually SHRILLARY will be connected with the most corrupt administration in history and eventually she will get the same treatment as say SIR, CHA'LES (LOL)..(I hear the Focus is out of business).
XL400236
3:53:00 AM
9/17/07

How many woman would stay with a man who had sex with other women?

Why?
bacpac
3:55:25 AM
9/17/07

politics
Sarge
4:47:02 AM
9/17/07

For the kids.
Sassafras
4:49:22 AM
9/17/07

Love.

Bacpac, clearly you understand there are many reasons to stay together after an act of infidelity by a partner. With your religious enlightenment you certainly understand a concept such as forgiveness. Why are you so jaded? I am shocked!
Nimblefoot
5:06:45 AM
9/17/07

UM Nimble...forgiveness also requires "amending your ways" On the other side. Clearly we have examples where people were not "forgiven" or "accepted" by Jesus because the REFUSED to AMEND (meaning CHANGE) their ways. This mean you change your actions so it will never happen again.

I love the crowd that wants "forgiveness" for a man who clearly will never change his ways. Kinda like the whiney Britney fan who wants her forgiven when she clearly had no intention of changing her ways.
XL400236
5:10:12 AM
9/17/07

Forgiveness has nothing to do with the behavior of the other party. Changed behavior will certainly make it easier, but not impossible. It's all about letting go...
Nimblefoot
5:15:37 AM
9/17/07

XLax is a Britney fan.

Keep me updated on that sitiation, please.

There are those of us who "let it go" in regard to a certain incorrigible arsehole here.

But then there are some of us who get a kick out of poking it with sharp sticks.
MarkO
5:23:33 AM
9/17/07

LOL..Nimble...so lets say Duke Cunningham gets up to be sentenced and says, "I am sorry" I am guessing you would FIGHT to let him stay in politics?

Or better yet, say....Oh Ted Bundy had REALLY Apologized...the whole crying "I'm so sorry." I am assuming you would be the first to open your home to him and let him stay with your family?

(LOL) I think not. What it is with most of the Libbies in life is they want to FORGIVE and FORGET if the person is useful to them. KINDA like well most good socialists.

But you want OTHERS to have to do what you yourself would NEVER do. In essence its Hypocrisy.


There is Forgiveness by us and there is understanding that "Let Caeser have what is Caeser's" Meaning there are heavenly forgiveness but you still must pay a penalty on earth.

but the 60's crowd will NEVER get this
XL400236
5:27:13 AM
9/17/07

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