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EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!!View MessagesRE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “Glad to hear you PNW folks are okay! Good luck with the clean up.” 11:11:13 AM 3/01/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “MICROSOFT TESTS NUCLEAR DEVICE AT SECRET OLYMPIA FACILITY REDMOND (BNN-2/28/01)--World leaders reacted with stunned silence as Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) conducted an underground nuclear test at a secret facility in Washington state. The device, exploded at 10:55 am PDT (1:55 pm EDT), was timed to coincide with talks between Microsoft and the US Department of Justice over possible antitrust action. ?Microsoft is going to defend its right to market its products by any and all necessary means,? said Microsoft CEO Bill Gates. ?Not that I?m anti-government? he continued, ?but there would be few tears shed in the computer industry if Washington were engulfed in a bath of nuclear fire.? Scientists pegged the explosion at around 100 kilotons. ?I nearly dropped my latte when I saw the seismometer? explained University of Washington geophysicist Dr. Whoops Blammover, ?At first I thought it was Mt. Rainier, and I was thinking, damn, there goes the mountain bike vacation.? In Washington, President Bush announced the US Government would boycott all Microsoft products indefinitely. Minutes later, the President reversed his decision. ?We?ve tried sanctions since lunchtime, and they don?t work,? said the President. Instead, the administration will initiate a policy of ?constructive engagement? with Microsoft. Microsoft?s Chief Technology Officer Nathan Myrhvold said the test justified Microsoft?s recent acquisition of the Hanford Nuclear Reservation from the US Government. Not only did Microsoft acquire ?kilograms of weapons grade plutonium? in the deal, said Myrhvold, ?but we?ve finally found a place to dump those millions of unsold copies of Microsoft Bob.? Myrhvold warned users not to replace Microsoft NT products with rival operating systems. ?I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of a radioisotope thermoelectric generator inside of every Pentium III microprocessor,? said Myrhvold, ?but anyone who installs an OS written by a bunch of long-hairs on the Internet is going to get what they deserve.? The existence of an RTG in each Pentium III microprocessor would explain why the microprocessors, made by the Intel Corporation, run so hot. The Intel chips ?put out more heat than they draw in electrical power? said Prof. E. E. Thymes of MIT. ?This should finally dispel those stories about cold fusion.? Rumors suggest a second weapons development project is underway in California, headed by Microsoft rival Sun Microsystems. ?They?re doing all of the development work in Java,? said one source close to the project. The development of a delivery system is said to be holding up progress. ?Write once, bomb anywhere is still a dream at the moment.? Meanwhile, in Cupertino, California, Apple interim-CEO Steve Jobs was rumored to be in discussion with Oracle CEO Larry Ellison about deploying Apple?s Newton technology against Microsoft. ?Newton was he biggest bomb the Valley has developed in years,? said one hardware engineer. ?I?d hate to be around when they drop that product a second time.?” 3:52:31 PM 3/01/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “No Way” 4:15:09 PM 3/01/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “Update: A street opened up along side cliffside houses that may have to come down. The Boeing takeoff strip has buckled. Many highways are still closed, one bridge will take 6 months to repair. Two hundred thousands went without power. More bad news. A young man was killed at Mardi Gras in WA. He was trying to help a girl that was being hit and was on the ground. Groups of black males were caught on film bashing white girls faces into glass on parked cars. They also were shown to all walk by this one white girl and take pot shots with closed fists to her face.” 2:18:44 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “And they say earthquakes are bad. People can be worse!” 2:21:37 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “Why the heck is Mardi Gras being celebrated anywhere outside of New Orleans, anyway? That rioting is sad!” 2:24:16 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “I know I pointed out the blacks, but whites were rioting too, but they didn't go beating on women. These routy kids I believe had no intention of coming to the Mardi Gras just for fun. Windows were boken & stores were looted.” 2:27:54 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “Those savage blacks. We should band together and segregate them. That would teach them.” 2:47:23 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “ken, go ahead, make fun, but I just saw that video again on the news with those big black men beating the living crap out of that small white girl. They ripped her head around by her hair & all took turns at giving her closed fisted punches to her face as she fell to the ground and tried to get back up. What if that was you sister or a cousin? Are you one of those liberals that wants to save the serial killer on death row or the serial rappists? I saw this criminal act like "look at these men beating this girl". I'm a woman first, and wished I could reach into the tv to help this poor defenseless girl. Then my thoughts went to who they were, and that they were beating other white women violently at this parade. Why did these black young men pick out these little skinny white young women to violently and yes, savagely beat her? This one girl had to have had broken bones in her face with open gashes. She may not even look the same after this beating. All the pain, all the stitches, all the blood, and what did she do to desearve this? She was white.” 3:17:22 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “Earthquake! Equal parts of; Amaretto, Southern Comfort & yumblilicious Sambuca Layer in exact order into a Pony or shotglass. Guzzle several quickly and you will think you be in a EARTHQUAKE!!!” 3:29:36 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “Buddur: No kidding! And what's with those who aren't catholics celebrating anyway!? I am sure they're going to fast. . . .” 3:34:46 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “LH, I share your horror at the thought of a human being savagely beaten by a gang of criminals. It turns my stomach, as it does yours, and I share your hope that the individuals will be caught and punished according to the law. I also share your empathy for the victim, and I hope she recovers, as you do. All civilized people, liberal or conservative, male or female, black or whatever, will share our horror and disgust at this brutal attack. Highly emotional times aren?t the best to make sarcastic remarks, so I apologize for that. I do have a tendency to shoot my mouth off from time to time. That said, calling attention to the races of the attackers and the victim, and repeating the racial identifications several times, cannot possibly help the situation. Although I know you didn?t intend to, some of your statements could be construed as fuel for racial hatred. A helpless victim was attacked by a gang of vicious criminals. Let?s leave it at that.” 3:40:26 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “well said, ken.” 4:01:04 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “I agree with you to an extent ken, but these were racial attacks on whites. It's just a fact. It has nothing to do with how I feel personally. The video is mind boggleing. The girls flew around the street like rag dolls being beat back & forth from man to man. I can't get that scene out of my head.” 5:03:03 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “I have to disagree LH! This was simply a very graphic display of what happens when kids are not held accountable for their actions because they are "kids". Do not believe everything you see or hear. The small snipits of video you saw can be very misleading and suggestive. The media are masters at creating the image of things that aren't really there. Whites beat up whites, blacks beat up blacks, and every possible variation in between! Just because a black man kicks the crap out of a white woman does not constitute racism. It just shows that our society has long forgotten how to treat women, or people in general. It's sad, very very sad. I just hope that I can teach my kids differently.” 5:39:27 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “I don't know how it works in Washington, but in most places, whites who attack blacks are guilty of "hate crimes," but blacks who attacks white are not. By the way, did you see the footage of the scared driver who plowed through the crowd of people? Wasn't he white?” 5:54:34 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “Explorer, it was the same in New York and it's the same in WA. If you look at a black the wrong way in, it's racist. Yet, a black can do anything to a white person and it's okay. Yes, there was a man that had kids attacking his car & kicking in his windows that fled into a crowd. I'd be interested to know how all these people fared from the car & the black on white beatings. switchback, I disagree, I think the video showed what really happened. I think a person no matter how young they are, know better than to abuse women, nevertheless, picking out the white women. That's misplaced anger. What did these girls do to deserve this?” 6:22:30 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! 7:00:27 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “winddragon, that's an uplifting story. I think the dog was better off at a hospital for people. If he turned up at a veternary hospital, the veternarian probably would have done nothing without receiving payment upfront.” 7:11:24 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “OK, now you?ve gone and set me off again. Lipstick, explorer, here?s the problem as I read it from what you?ve said. A gang of THEM can brutalize one of OUR WOMEN with CLOSED FISTS and TAKE TURNS and get off SCOTT FREE while every time WE drag one of THEM behind a truck the DAMN LIBERALS go and call it a ?HATE CRIME!? OK. Let?s assume that that is indeed the problem, so you needn?t restate it in other language. Instead, please offer your solutions. Let me leave you with these thoughts. Racial hatred is amongst the easiest of human emotions to feel. It takes conscious effort to avoid it, and avoiding it isn?t easy. In troubled times, it is best to keep our heads and not throw gasoline on fires. Now if you'll excuse me, I really need to leave this thread.” 7:43:26 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “Explorer, you think ken's upset, lol. I don't go for the dragging of a black person either. I don't think it's right for anyone to pick out innocent people and brutilize them. I would have felt equally as bad if white boys were attacking black girls. In this case, it happens to be the blacks attacking the whites for no reason. I'm just stating a fact.” 7:50:52 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “I cheated. I looked back. Does look kind of angry, doesn?t it? Lipstick, if we ever talked this out thoroughly, I?m confident that you and I would end up in complete agreement. I tend to come across as somewhat more? what?s the word? stern?uptight?anal?than I actually am. Just part of being me. Hope you?re OK from your ordeal, and that poor girl has my best wishes too. Now I really have to go for real.” 8:07:22 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “Ken, chill. First of all, don't lump me in with LH. I was just trying to throw a couple of interesting and thought-provoking facts into the debate. I was not taking LH's side (sorry). Maybe I should have stated my position more clearly, but I get accused of over-writing. My position on hate crime laws is that they are ridiculous and unnecessary. It is preposterous and wrong (usually) for the law to take into account what was in a person's heart when he committed a crime. The gang who beat that girl are guilty of aggravated assault or attempted murder or whatever they may be guilty of. What difference does it make if they beat her because she was white or for some other reason. I've been attacking George Bush on some other threads today, but one of his best moments in the debates was when Al Gore tried to take him to task for a lack of hate crime legislation in Texas and brought up a particular case and Bush said basically that we sent they guy to death row you want me to execute him twice? Exactly right. Murder is murder, and race don't enter into it. I bought up the guy in the car to point out to LH that violence was also being committed by whites. Even if the guy felt justified for running down the people who were immediately surrounding his car, he then proceeded to run down completely innocent, uninvolved and oblivious people in a crosswalk down the street. I don't know the extent of those people's injuries, but I hope he goes to prison for a long long time.” 8:49:06 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “>It is preposterous and wrong (usually) for the law to take into account what was in a person's heart when he committed a crime. Except that it's also a fundamental premise of the criminal code: the difference between first-degree and second-degree homicide, and manslaughter, is what was in the murderer's heart at the time (and immediately before) the commission of the crime. It's not novel for the law to recognize certain motivations as more reprehensible than others. Some say the result is the same, regardless of the motivation; as far as the immediate victim is concerned, that's certainly true. The thing is, hate crimes are far more damaging to the social fabric than crimes with other motivations. If the guy in Texas had been killed in a convenience store stickup, his family would have been just as bereaved; but it wouldn't have had the same lasting damage to race relations in the area. As for Attias, what he did was heinous--but from everything I've heard he really is mentally ill. I have been impressed by his parents' statements, which acknowledge the tremendous grief he caused and make no effort to take the blame off of him.” 9:08:29 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “>>"Except that it's also a fundamental premise of the criminal code: the difference between first-degree and second-degree homicide, and manslaughter, is what was in the murderer's heart at the time (and immediately before) the commission of the crime. It's not novel for the law to recognize certain motivations as more reprehensible than others." That's not exactly right. The difference between murder and manslaughter, and the different degrees thereof, has to do with intent, not motivation. There's no question that those guys intended to hit her, so their motivation shouldn't really matter. By the same token, if she had died and they intended to kill her, it would be murder, but if she had died and they had not intended to kill her it would be first degree manslaughter (the foreseeable consequence of their actions, or something like that; I'm not a lawyer). I agree with you on Attias (and the parents), but I was talking about the guy in Seattle who panicked because some "rioters" (word in quote for lack of a less inflamatory term) were surrounding his car and ran a bunch of them down.” 9:34:00 PM 3/02/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “I wonder if those men taking pot shots at the defenseless woman would've done it to her if she were the same color? Anyways, I must state that I have not seen any of this on the TV, nor heard of any of this on the radio...just on TT. Must be a local thing. And about the guy who "ran a bunch of them down" when his vehicle was surrounded...good for him because he's may not have lived through the event! Bernard Getz of NYC lives on in the hearts of all who are sick of putting up with unnecessary and unaggravated aggression! I know you actually fight fire with water..but the term "fight fire with fire" means something! I'm not a hate breeder, but hearing of these atrocities just burns me up!” 12:25:09 AM 3/03/01 RE: EMERGENCY: Earthquake Now!!! “I just came back from a trip to Tacoma/Seattle and everywhere I went I saw a negro man with a white woman. It's obvious they covet and resent white women for their superior beauty and genetics. Bringing Africans to North America is America's worst mistake!” 11:27:40 PM 3/04/01
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