yet another shooting. again. still. anot her.

“RE: Pennsylvania

I just wanted to be the first one to get this string rolling. . .”

“http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32835-2001Mar6.html

Here's another one. Who says this doesn't happen every day?”

“I said it, and I only hoped that it wouldn't happen every day. I have to ask "what the f**k is wrong with this world?"”

“It's the sheep syndrome. Kids following what other kids do. I think under age kids need a stiffer penalty for killing.

Here we go again. We are looking for 4 black men that killed a cop in the Demoines area of Seattle. The cop requested back up, but was shot in the head before the backup arrived. May he rest in peace.”

“Lipstick, is your last name Eichemann?”

“hyper, isn't he the nazi guy? I'm Italian, lol. I'm just tired of us white folks being brutilized.”

“Duke”

“What color was the cop? Nevermind.

Tea, never stop asking that question, and never stop searching for the answer. I don't know the answer either, but I suspect that is is more complicated than some would have you believe.”

“LH & Hyper,

LH isn't your last name close that that?”

“Sorry, LH...your "us white folk being victimizd" doesn't hold water here. According to news reports, at least one of those that were involved was wanted on a felony warrant. Regardless of the race of the suspects or the police officer (and to my knowledge, his race hasn't been released, nor has his name), this would have happened with this group of kids...they just didn't want to be arrested.”

“Hyperpacker, stop calling names. If 4 blacks killed a cop in Seattle we have every right to express our opinions about it.”

“I've got it. We should apply the death penalty more frequently when those savage coloreds kill good white folk. Wait. We do that already. Nevermind. Where's that damn rope?”

“Steve you actually see no problem with the focus being on the shooters color? Dead is dead, regardless of the color, would this be okay if the cop was white or the shooters were? Lipstick you ought to be sick of anyone being brutalized black or white. We are all cut from the same cloth.”

“Lets turn this into a racist thread.
L.H. Ive been reading about your racist views for years and have always stayed out of it until now. You always have a way to try to talk your way out of it but a month later you'll say something again that shows your ignorance.
Take a lesson from my son. He happens to have two friends of color and has NEVER once labeled them as his "BLACK" friends. To him they are just people that he likes to have as friends. I find that admirable in a society filled with people like yourself.
Another thing that always bothered me, you bagging on Californians moving to Washington. If you were a native I would understand, but your NOT. How long have you lived in WA., 3 Years?. In another 20 maybe you can start talking crap.”

“Too late Ken, the cop was a white person. Blacks are against the death penalty, because the many men that are on it. They don't consider stopping the killings, they just want to lower the penalty. Does that make sense?

SARBoy, I didn't necessarily think it was a killing due to predjudice, but it is another black on white killing. Remember when the blacks (months ago) went into the city and were terrorizing everyone?

Right on, Steve Hiker, I'm not saying that anyone should not have black friends or associate with them. I'm just stating facts. It's reality, I don't know why everyone gets so uptight. I never said I hated blacks or anyone else. There is good in every race.

I'm just a little disappointed that the blacks and whites of WA don't get along. I thought things were better here than in NY. WA is filled with wonderful people that look to help one another. It's a shame that all these crimes put a damper on WA for all the world to see.”

“It surprises me how fast some people are to jump on whites when black commit crimes.”

“Lipstick you may be part of the reason folks dont get along. I grew up 6 miles from the michigan KKK's grand dragon . I now live 3 miles from Detroit.I have seen the hate on both sides,its sick. I have seen cross-burnings on the front page of my local paper as a child. Its sad to see your inability to see outside yourself.”

“Dang steve I guess white folks dont commit crimes. Ever hear of Tim McVeigh? The issue isnt color, its murder.”

“hyper, I do think it's sad about anyone being killed, unless they were a bad person to begin with.

cal, I know you don't like what I say. I am not a racist. That is a harsh and untrue remark. I wasn't raised that way. I think it's great that your child has black friends and they all get along. Maybe children from you son's generation will grow up more tolerant of each other. I was never brought up to see "color" on people. I accept all good people into my life regardless of race or religion. I just state the reality of life. If that bothers you, don't look at the news. I'm just repeating what's on the news and radio.

I have been the recipient of predjudice at a young age and continue to be a victim of it in my older age, and I still don't hold it against all people of a particular race or religion. I think that's about as good as a person can be.”

“LH you should be a ballet dancer the way you spin and dance away from your comments.”

“What really bugs me is the attitude of many blacks AND whites, that you can't hold blacks accountable for their acts. Remember the OJ defense? "Whites are racist for bringing me to trial."

When LH mentioned that gangs of blacks have attacked whites (twice) in Seattle, she was accuses of being racist. Nonsense.”

“Lipstick, think about this please. Go get a newspaper. Seattle, are you? That will do just fine. Read that paper (no, not the same one) each day. Every single day there will be a story of a person killing another person. Most of the perpetrators and victims will come from the impoverished areas of your city (read: colored neighborhoods.) Where is your indignation? Why not start a new thread on your favorite hiking site every time a black person kills another black person? It happens hourly in this country. Don?t you care? Are they expendable? Are you secretly glad that they?re killing each other off? Shoot, you?d be typing 24 hours per day if you reported each case of a black person killing a black person, if you cared. But off in Iowa, the coloreds kill one of us, and you can?t shut up about it. Lipstick, that?s bigotry. And it?s sad. At least I?m sad.”

“Thanks steve hiker. I would say the same if there were gangs of Asians, Italians, Indians or anyone else committing a lot of crimes. Believe me, these gangs of blacks are beating on their own people too.

hyper, I never wanted to be a ballet dancer because it hurts to stand in on your toes in those shoes. I'm not dancing around anything. Others are going way too far in misconstuing everything I've said.”

“Steve, O.K. maybe racist was a little harsh. How about "bigot"”

“I think people who deny the obvious are the ones who are dancing.”

“calnatv, how about "calling it straight."”

“bummer, steve beat me to it”

“calling it straight would have been " four men killed a cop" Not four black men killed a cop”

“Steve, duh! of course you hold criminals accountable for their actions. No one has said let the killers go because they are black. Folks are saying screw color,get the bad guys.

I must also add that I dont buy the arguement that folks commit crime out of poverty. During the depression in the late 20's early 30's poverty was much more real than today and crime was no near its current levels.That is an excuse. The cause of crime is the simple fact that folks dont give a flying fork about each other, be they poor or middleclass folks climbing the corporate ladder or corporate CEOS.”

“Steve, Its nice to see you have a "black Dog"”

“That is a matter of opinion. I choose not to omit obviously relevant facts.

When the cop is white, and the white girl with blonde hair was attacked by a gang of blacks, "four black men killed a cop" and "a gang of blacks attacked a white girl" is more complete and (IMHO) more accurate.
I don't deny black racism.”

“I live in NH where in my parts racism isn't a problem...the one colored guy in my county pretty much just keeps to himself...I grew up just outside NYC though...and spent alot of time there...I saw white cops harrasing black people for simply being black...black cops harrasing whites for being white...blcks fighting whites...whites fighting blacks...and it was racially related all of it...but you cannot gang up on the blacks...putting them down...whites are just as guilty...as are the others...people have been killing people for as long as people have been around over race,color,religion,or whatever differences there are...look at the kkk....Hitler's Germany...all forms of "ethnic cleansing" it isn't a single group that needs a finger pointed at it...
but one race is to blame....
the human race”

“Well Steve, I can't help but to feel sorry for you "NOT". I know racism and bigotry will never go away but I will never accept it. And by not labeling people I am living a much happier life then people filled with hate.
No matter what your color or beliefs, just don't mess with me or my family and I get along with almost everybody.
O.K. thats anough,discussing this over the internet is to easy Bye BYE. Have a wonderful and happy life”

“you got that right, brother.”

“cal beat me to it. that last remark was directed to mr. or ms. zen.”

“Ken, it is interesting that you refer to minorities as colored. In most of the US people consider the term colored to be a racist slur.”

“Like that racist National Association for the Advancement of Colored People LOL”

“what the fu&k?!?!?!?

some people are simply worthless pieces of sh!t. who gives a rat's ass how tan they are? who cares?”

“christ. some of you are not worthy of the label "human". who cares what color the person is who did the deed or what color the person is that died. it is tragic either way. it is tragic you fools can't see past the skin color.”

“"but it is another black on white killing. Remember when the blacks (months ago) went into the city and were terrorizing everyone?"

lh, i noticed you were THE FIRST one decrying the death of the black guy dragged behind the pickup in texas. you are a small, small person”

“Lumpy (and the rest of you), name calling and personal attacks will get you nowhere. Stick to the issues or be quiet.”

“Who let the dogs out!!!!! How in tarnation did this thread turn into a racist one. LOL. Chompin on the bit aren't we folks.

Listen up all you, Christ killers, Fritz's, Frogs, Dago's, J.J.'s, D.F.N, Limeys and Leprechuans, Macaroni's, Dog eaters, Mick's, Mockeys, Charlies. Jerries, Moosephuckers, Muttlethead hillbilly sister lovers, Nachos, Ese's, Netheads, Nine irons, Paki's, Penny chasers, Mutts, Ragu's, Slants, Sheep-phukers, Sorta Ricans, Spics and spiggers ,. Squaw, Towel head, White Chocolates, WOP's, WIC"S, Wagon Burners,, TONY's, Tobey's, Spudnigger, Rutabagas, Rug pilot, Rail hopper's, Pretendians, Polocks(can't forget them), pinkos, Muktuks, Kiwi's, Hoser's, Harbor bomber, Greasballs, Gooks, FLIPS and Fob's , Crackers, Bjorks, we're all racist bigots and if you think otherrwise you are running from something.

I'm human and there for prone to error. Sorry if I left anyone out. I hope I did not offend anyone if I forgot you. Mic's forever!!!!!!!!”

“Lumpy, I will not address anything you say, because I don't like how you addressed me in past threads. You are plain ignorant.

rad, you should be aware in life about who is grabbing you by the neck in life, choaking you, to death. Is it the duck, perhaps the llama or would it be the lion. If you don't turn around to see who it is, you'll never survive. It's a natural thing in life to see who is chasing behind you.

Briar, I don't think it's right to grab any old black person and make them pay for the sins of the gangs of blacks. Btw, in my neighborhood where I grew up, a black man dragged a white cop under his car. The horrible description has left my mind, thank God.

The poor girl from the Mardi Gras was on tv today, saying that she doesn't understand why these guys were punching her in her face. She said they gave her punches like she was a man, and even men didn't deserve to be beat like that. One of them kicked in her face after she was punched to the ground.

They keep showing these seens on tv, so that the injured will come forward and others might be able to identify these hoodlums along with all the other incidents.

For the departed cal, what is a bigot? They put down black people. I don't do that. They think certain nationalities are all they same, and I certainly don't feel that way. My neighbor was black. Then she moved. She's still black, but she liked me & I liked her, and we were good neighbors to each other. We talked and shared recipes.”

“How come no one has accused lipstick of wanting to be black?”

“lipstick,

all i know about the person who is grabbing me by the neck is that they bleed red, no matter how fair they are. and they will be bleeding alot, but let's not turn this into a gun thread.

i do discriminate. i discriminate against cultures, not how blue or yellow you are. if you come from the drug or gang culture, i don't want to have anything to do with you. if you have no self respect, i don't want to have anything to do with you. if you make a decision about someone based on their dermatological melanin content, i don't want to have anything to do with you.”

“The yet another shooting. again. still. another. happened in Williamsport Pa which is most recently been in the news because of the TWA flight that exploded several years ago after taking off from JFK airport and several high school students from Williamsport were on board. These kids are crying out for attention and help. Sadly, their crys are crimes and their problems are being compounded. Fortunately, she (yes she) didn't kill any one, the bullet richocheted of the floor and got one student in the leg. Still terrifying.
I really am torn up by all this. What a tragedy for the parents of these kids killed and wounded. Their pain, I can't even fathom.”

“Uh, I'm trying to direct this away from the racial slant (no slur to the orientals). Isn't the REAL cause of all this the fact that, in schools today (don't complain that I don't know what I'm talking about--my wife's a teacher) kids are NOT taught that anything is right or wrong; they're taught ONLY that it is more important to create their own reality, that truth and ethics are relative, that the true measure of maturity is how one "feels" about oneself and that it doesn't matter what is done in school because the parents will ALWAYS come to their kid's defense. The parents are whipped today into thinking that their children are always right and oppressed (perhaps that's their way of trying to correct for the fact that they either destroyed their family through divorce or that they are never home because they feel the need for both parents to work is more important than giving a loving home to their kids), the teachers are whipped by the NEA into thinking that no child is "wrong," only misdirected and there should be no corporal punishment because it's violent, and the kids are whipped because no one bothers to take the time and effort to instruct, discipline and love them into adulthood. (my soapbox is pretty large today)

Everyone bemoans the horrible things that happen in our country--school shootings, babies in dumpsters, infants ripped to pieces by dogs, gang rapes, bodies stuffed into 55gal drums (the infamous "Can Man" here in Overland Park, KS), blah, blah, blah--and yet no one has the, er,uh. . . testicles to change it.

We're reaping what we've sewn and there's plenty more evil coming. . .”

“"BURNT" toast???? does that mean you may be DARK?!?!?!?! this is apparently a wonderbread only thread!!! LOL!!!!”

“Backpac, I was being ironic back there. Trying to bring to the surface an attitude that I detected. Sorry for the confusion. I'm glad that you understand that colored isn't a nice way to refer to people.”

“radagast--you've seen my site. I'm so pasty-pale that I NEVER tan--I just burn-n-peel, baby!

In light of the NAACP comment, how 'bout this:
NAALAAPY: National Association for the Advancement of Liberal African American Peoples, Ya'll?

think Quasi Infume will go for it? Jesse?”