Oklahoma Federal Bldg bombing Anniversar y

“Can't believe it's been 6 years already. What a tragic event! I remember hearing of the explosion just as I was leaving my Apt to go to class. At the time, who'd've evern thought an American would've done such a thing.

CNN says Taco Bell purchased the property, and are planning to build a Drive-Thru/Take-Out Memorial, and a % of food proceeds will go to a Memorial Fund!”

“And, not coincidentally its the anniversary of the firey end to the Waco standoff.

I pause in memory of the lives lost in both events.”

“Taco Bell?
Eeeeek
What an awful tribute.

Can't believe an American could do such a thing???

I'm surprised more of those "patriots" haven't caused more trouble.

Those Jackbooted FBI/ATF Thugs must be on the job.”

“"In times of peace, the war like man turns on himself".

Nietche(sp?)”

“I was going to pay some bills today, but I was out of stamps.


There is no way I am going near the Post Office today!”

“What does everyone thing about Timothy McVeighs execution being put on monitors for the people who lost their kin to watch?

I personally think they should all be able to watch. It will be a anticlamatic for some, since they will still be without their loved one, but it will help bring closure and help them with their grief.”

“I think they should have followed the Faith Based Execution proposal Bonzai posted about a while back.”

“Watching or knowing that some sicko has been X'ed might not bring closure for such an act.
This can only bring empty and hollow revenge.

McVeigh might now be a martyr for like-minded wackos.
I just hope the Jackbooted Thugs stay vigilant for future McVeighs.”

“I think death is the easy way out for McViegh...he should spend the rest of his life in a miserable jail and agonize as long as the victim's families suffer!

Either that, or let him loose to some of the victim's family members who would like to get their hands on him! Now that'd be "Reality TV"!”

“I can't imagine losing one of my babies to that misguided idiot.

If watching him die will help those people to heal, by all means let them. Anyone else who wants to watch is strictly voyeuristic.”

“April just has bad Karma for Americans between Oklahoma and Columbine the two worst acts of terror in American history happened on consecutive days.

"They declared me unfit to live
said into that great void my soul be hurled.

Wana know why I did what I did
Sir I guess there 's just an evil in this world"

? Bruce Springsteen (Nebraska 1984)”

“buddur, prison is too good for him, it still lets him enjoy food, comaraderie & maybe sex (though I think he would be put in seclusion), rights for visitors, mail & who knows what else, even though it's not under the best of circumstances.”

“As horrible as capitol punishment may seem... I think that as a society we need to make it clear that there are somethings so horrible and evil that we have no choice but to destroy those who commit these acts.”

“Tom the Turd supports Capital Punishment? Wow, and we thought he didn't have anything in common with dubya.”

“Don't forget Hitler's birthday is also tomorrow! There's a whole rash of "relive Columbine on Hilter's birthday" threats floating around the local high schools and even elementary schools. Everyone is on edge and most parents are keeping their kids out of school tomorrow.
What a sad pathetic city I live in.”

“Berlin?”

“Sin City, i.e. Lost Wages, i.e. down and out scum of the earth magnet, i.e. Las Vegas”

“I truly understand why people support the death penalty, but I can't join them. I don't know if prison is enough punishment for the most reprehensible crimes...that's certainly a good argument for supporting it. But I can't.

I believe in reincarnation...and believe that the spiritual world is capable of delivering the best consequences for evil actions. That doesn't diminish the role of society in crime punishment...I just think that life in prison, instead of death, is what I can support. There's a greater judgement the criminal will face.

For those families who want to witness his execution, I hope it does bring them closure. But I think it will only give them pain.”

“The relatives, friends, parents, children, husbands, wives, mothers and fathers who have lost loved ones are asking to see the execution, so it must be important to them, and I respect that.”

“I saw a movie last night on the Nuremberg trials and one of the characters made an interesting statement. He said that he thought that evil was the absence of empathy. While this was most likely a "movie line" rather than an historical quote, it is thought provoking.”

“Thanks for the observation Vix. That idea about Lack of empathy is thought provoking and important.

Abscence of empathy explains a great deal. Some evil comes from a lack of empathy ("the capacity to experience the feelings of another as it feels to that other"). But some evil involves empathy... knowing how it would feel for the other, feeling a taste of the pain, terror, the other will experience or is experiencing and proceeding. Not only do some people do terrible things to others despite empathy, some people have learned through empathy how to increase the suffering of others. Some child molesters are very skilled manipulators because they are incredibly good at empathy... knowing how their fictim and their victim's family members feel.

Warning... I am about to slip into professorial lecture mode:

The empathy notion is part of a "enlightenment" model of goodness: "to know the good is to do the good," "ignorance (including ignorance of how another feels) is necessary for evil actions. This is essential to a lot of liberal thinking about social problems and social justice. There is more to evil than ignorance (including abscence of empathy).”

“Good....bad....I'm the guy with the gun.”

“I'm not convinced TM did it. He want's to be a martyr too badly. What kind of person blows up a federal building and then flees the scene wothout plates on the car? And then has a gun ON THE SEAT when pulled over. (at least that's the story I heard).”

“It's been 7 years already.”

“I remember the day like it was yesterday. I heard on the news that 9-11 survivors were down there for the ceremony, and all gained from mutual support.”

“Violin, speaking of misguided idiots, let's not forget the members of the NRA. They are the ones holding onto their guns in the pretense that the government is evil and that they need their guns to protect themselves from the government. Just like Waco. The NRA member and Timothy McVeigh have a lot in common.”

“I remember it very clearly too, Pathman. My daughters were 2 1/2 and 6 months at the time, and the pictures of the injured babies were heart wrenching. People died who just happened to stop into the credit union at the moment of the blast. A terrible sadness that something like that happened, and it wasn't an act of nature.”

“Not only is it the anniversary of the federal buidling bombing, it's also the anniversary of the Waco seige. 13 years, and several branch Davidians are now getting out of prison.”

“o my goosh. i forgot to back a cake”