Filthy, Dirty, Hippie Returns

“bare-chested? LOL! I'm old and I shave my back!”

“And please revesl to us Nafai, oh most esteemed judge of what is a worthy backpacking thread, which threads would those be since we've never noticed you posting to any of them? Could it be because you ain't got the skillz?”

“Hey Melsie,

Welcome home girl. I hope you and yours had a great trip. It was great to see y'all again. How's Jabba doin?

Fook....
You're a f'in moron. Mel does not have to "hide behind her chat buddies when challenged". Her actions on this board, in the field and in our homes do not need protection. You obviously have NO clue who Mel is or what she's about. "hiding behind an online persona"???? Mel is as genuine here as anywhere. I KNOW. There is certainly more info on Mel than you, and if you can't handle a public fight, beat it coward. You don't have the skin for this place. No one is trying to take away your right to your opinion, but there is a difference between opinion and a punk bitch with big mouth. So if'n you don't like logging in to "looserville" LOG OUT FUCKO”

“So Nanook just shows up and starts insulting everyone? What kind of butthead would do that???”

“rotflmao”

“hehehe”

“10 Bears, bacpac, do some research morons. MEL started this shyte with me, because my opinion differed from hers.

I think it's sad that you consider this a public fight. Come to my house.”

“Got any pizza?”

“yes.

and pizza.

but fresh out of drugs.”

“Sure, let me see if I got the address right, The corner of Mean Street and Don'tmesswithme Boulevard?

Better load up the Fridge.”

“Shut up!”

“Oh boy, Here comes the User.”

“Well Sweetheart, just let me run down to the local SuperK and pick you up a little EX.

Uh, while I'm at it?
Do you like anchovies on your pizza, or do they remind you too much of your sister?

And if you're REALLY lucky, and we can lure him out of hiding, maybe our erstwhile friend, and helpful troll, Gentle Ben will show up tell you about drugs and his sex life with Wanda.

Last time he made contact here, he gave us a rundown on his pot patch, and his brand new AK47.

Fook....
You got a dog?
Ben would shoot it for you.

Phil...

Sorry I didn't get to visit with you while I was down in La La Land.
My dad was sick, and we had to go to San Diego to visit with John's folks while we were on the LA circuit.
It was a rocket run.

I also had to take 10 Bears his "new" Dana Design Astralplane Overkill.

Man, selling my pack felt like I was cutting off my arm.
But I know 10 Bears will give it a a good home, and I'll get to see it again this summer on the Llama Rama.
We got to visit with him and his pretty little lady, and see Didjfan, and Marcia too. Didj...
Marcia is just adorable!
How can I convince you and 10 Bears to move up here?!
More pictures of giant trout?

Lovely happy hour down in Old Town around the fountain in the patio with the mariachi band playing.
Smoking foot long doobies, and shooting up speed.

We simply MUST do Casa de Bandini again.
The margaritas are divine, and the food is to DIE for.

Rosey...
Got your E and the reply is on the way.
You going to be doing any XC (no, Fook. That is not code for a drug, unless traveling off the trail makes you high) behind Clarence King?
There be bears back there.”

“Dammit Mel, He just invited us over for Pizza and beer. Now he will get all hostile again.”

“I like anchovies,.....and sisters!and..... Mohaaaaaaaa!”

“No, but I am going to post this so everyone can see how horrible, vile, offensive, and jerklike I was that got Mel riled up enough to start a specific thread to "deal with me."

Here's the link to the original thread: Thread

And here's a comment Gordon made: I hope the second paragraph does not imply you powered down a six-pack while driving mountain roads at night and while fatigued.

And here's my comment that followed, the source of the brutish insult:

"i was thinking the same thing gordon. that, and I think statements like these:

God invented sacred herb for peace, mushrooms for hilarity, and codine for fun. [mel]

come from the weak."


I'm such a horrible, mean person for saying that! How can I face the public again?”

“That's the problem Fook...
You can't.

Gimmie a big, wet, sloppy kiss.
Right under my mustache.”

“Fook...
No need for outside research. You're a roving control group all on your own. I don't think this should be a public quarrel, but if thats where it goes, stand up. You don't have to stand tall, but stand up.
Thank you for your gracious invitation to your home. I'll need to do a few warm up hikes, so I can make it to the top of your imperical tower of ivory.”

“You've never faced the public. You've only popped up here periodically to thrust your anti-drug diatribe down our throats and insult a community member. So until you can prove that you are backpack worthy, eat a d!ck!”

“I can't believe mel could remember a post that far back.

Shroom flashback?”

“Sorry; I just got here.

What the hell?

When I read posts like Nafai's "of a filthy dirty hippy who is taunting me through an online persona." I have to wonder who the hell Nafai is, if not an online personna, and what the hell is filthy dirty hippy if not taunting.

And actually, Mel is not a persona, it is her real name, dumb@ss. I hate to point fingers, but who the hell are you? With whom have you hiked? What's in your bio?

Mel has more backpacking knowledge in her poop than you do in your whole large intestine.

And what do you mean nobody here's contributed to fruitful bp'ing posts? I've learned more from these guys in the last two years than those kids they hire at REI.

Your posts are not clever, nor are they based on fact. You'd like to be as popular a troll as Mutt, but you haven't the skill to rile. Keep working, kiddo.”

“Well finally the rest of the cavalry shows up. Too much too late in my opinion. We had the dialog down to favorite pizza toppings before you lugs showed up.”

“Nafry, Do you know a guy named Ice Tea?”

“Did you bother reading that thread? Or forget that Mel started this one?

The only troll here I see is Mel.”

“Rosey
"popped up"
"to thrust your"
"down our throats"
"member"
"eat a d!ck"
You some kind of prevert (sic) or something?”

“Nafai, you probably should have quoted the post that began
with:

"Mel, you sound like a dirty hippy. And like most dirty hippies, I'm sure you're quite happy."

and ended with:

"Rvel in ignorance, it makes you feel better about things you know are retarded. Oh, I'm sorry, you call it "enlightened."”

“It just occured to me that in some ways Mel is sort of the "anit-rad," a left coast opposite.

"Or is Rad the right coast "anti-mel?"

BTW: "Revel" is mispelled in my earlier post due to my error, not nafai's.”

“I guess I shouldn't post. I doubt I hike as much as Rosey, in terms of years, miles, difficulty of terrain. Its what I like about this place. We are all equals, just some are more equal than others.
$.02”

“I read the thread. You were out of line calling Mel a filthy, dirty hippie.”

“Ok, lets become adults and go on to another subject. But I still want my pizza! Mohaaaaaa! Yo bear and I like everbody! ALMOST!”

“Mr X and Mel et al were irresponsible to give the impression they condone drinking and driving (which is what started the whole thing going IMHO).”

“Melsie?

Pizza?anchovies?your sister? stop you?re f?in killin me. LOL You are ON girl.

Not to worry. The Astralplane is secure in it?s astral temple, replete with smoking foot long doobies, margarita glasses, and mariachi music. Now if I could just find that hat with the dingle-balls. All who behold her chant the sacred mantras of altitude, clean water, clear skies, happy feet, Four Winds and good medicine. She?s anxious to hit the trail. T-MINUS 12 WEEKS AND COUNTING!!!!!

Ms. Bear?s (newly anointed trail name: BLAZE! more on that later) sends her regards. She had a great time with all.
Casa de Bandini was awesome. Man? the food?the margaritas?I could?a taken a swim in that margy?it was HUGE! The menu was what? 10 pages?not to mention the company was awesome :) Let?s do that again soon.

Big trout pictures??? Maybe some pics of naked, bohemian, filthy, dirty, hippie fun would do the trick LOL! Actually it won?t take much convincing me. ;)

Didj?

It was a pleasure to meet with you and yours. Tell her we said ?Hi?. I look forward to crossing paths with you in the future.

And now?back to my mantras?lacookaracha- lacookaracha- lacookaracha- lacookaracha- lacookaracha-lalalala?”

“I love you people.
I want to adopt all of you.

No Fook.

Dude...

You must remember this:

When you drop into a well established, greatly experienced, backpacking on-line group, most of whom possess superior intellects (hey you all, I'm playing your song), a wicked sense of humor and fun, and a great appreciation for irony, you'ed either better know your sh!t when you post, or put a sock in it.

Nobody loves a holier than thou know-it-all.
Especially a dumb know-it-all.

I can get away (most of the time)with being a know-it-all because everyone here knows I'm not usually serious, unless of course we're talking about this sport we all participate in.

Since I've been hiking the Sierras for more than 30 years, and more recently packing in them with my idiot llamas for the last six, I can at least claim my backcountry knowledge isn't skimmed off the top of backpacking sites, and play stations.

The Good People here have either met me, stayed at my house and hiked with me, or have participated with me in TT information trading, banter and nonsense.

These Nice People (most of whom I have the great privilege of being able to call my friends), know to whom it is they speak.

Since it is blatently obvious you're new, and don't really know ANYTHING about this site, or the people who post here, you don't know squat about me either.

I expect you don't really know squat about backpacking too.

I stopped messing with drugs a LONG time ago.
Probably while your mother was still changing your knappies.

I like my beer, and that's no sin.

People of Taste and Sensibility like beer.
And those who don't?
Well, maybe they eat ice cream instead.

As for you?
Just another pesky knat with a shelf life of 1.6 months.”

“Flyguy:

LOL! I didn't consider the Freudian implications of my language.”

“Who needs Freud! Yer imagery was downright pornographic. Bonus points to fly for catching it, even though his user name remains open to interpretation.

Speaking of interpreting user names tho' what kinds of associations does "roseymonster" conjure up?”

“Wouldn't you like to know, big boy.”

“Wasn't PedXing one of the Five Chinese Brothers I read about in 1st grade?”

“LOL! Limpy!”

“Well said, Mel (not that you require mine or anyone else's approval for your opinions). My advice now (FWIW) would be to let the troll's posts fall on deaf ears from this point forward.

Those who have a clue will always find the trail. Those who don't will sooner or later find the cliff.”

“Strider My Love....

You know, usually I don't do the knee jerk reaction thing.
But you bring up a valid point...

It's been so long since I was troll bait, I never stopped to consider that Fook might be one.

He's only slightly more subtle than Gentle Ben.

GADZOOKS!

Fook is a troll!!”

“.....but I've had so much fun baitng him.

Whatever shall I do, now that his ruse is exposed?
(Is that nasty?)”

“strider has the best advice. Arguing back and forth is one thing, but it's best to ignore trolls that are malicious. They will soon disappear without an audience to play to.

I don't mean to ruin your fun mel, lol.”

“I posted what I said initially, and flyguy is right with his reasoning on why I said what I did. Anything else that came about in that thread was due to the direct attacks on me and my beliefs.

Your right, Mel, I don't know you. But you don't know me any better. Prove that anything I have said falls under the category "unintelligent". I wasn't the one changing around names and using third-grade insults (you still call me Fook, btw. What gives with that if your so bloody mature?)

And I have never expressed that I thought I had more knowledge or experience in backpacking than anyone on these boards. Read the few posts I have made on TT. I'm a backpacking newbie and appreciated the help I received from more experienced people--your dehydrating and camp food book included.

I never once thought that a well-established community of "Good People" and "Nice People" would so outrightly bash someone for a comment stating that drinking and driving and reliance on chemicals for pleasure was "weak".

I am not and never have been a troll. Trolls start threads and start fights. You started this thread, and this fight. Why am I responding? You push, I push back. I prescribe to the thought that someone shouldn't dish things out if they can't handle them in return. That's hippocritical, and the only thing I can't stand more than a hippocrite is someone who doesn't even stand up for what they believe in. The lack of spine.

I am close friends with many people that are even much older than you Mel, so even though I'm a bare-chested, strong-minded twentysomething, I understand and appreciate the wisdom of elders.

I've never met you, been to your house, etc. And for that you claim I can't know or understand you. How is the situation any different for you? We know each other only through what is written on this board. And my only contact with you outside of cooking tips was attacking my beliefs--with petty insults laced with condescention.

Then you brag, I guess, it didn't make a lot of sense, about previous people you have "taken out" of these boards with your illustrious flames. *picturing various monkeys in the background hooting and hollering*. It's a sad, unnecessary territorial display that doesn't even make sense.

And it also won't work. Even if everyone here were to refuse to speak to me or answer my questions because I had the nerve to question something that you and Mr X. condoned (jokingly or not), I would not leave. I'll stop visiting when I can no longer gain information about the sport I am taking up. And unless you're a moderator, have me banned, or otherwise (which I'd just come back with a new profile), you're just going to have to live with me, my sentiments, my opinions, and my leftover pizza.

peace.”

“you're right, btw, not "your" right.”

“"I wasn't the one changing around names and using third-grade insults"

-Nafai

Really?

"”

“Ah nuts to it. I was going to copy and paste examples of "”

“"do some research you morons" and the like, but this piece of crap Macintosh is giving me grief.

Hell with it.

We all know you're behaving like a jerk, wether you are in real life or not.”

“Strider is right. Having held off on posting to this moronic thread (no offencse to my fruiends here, it's just that y'all keep feeding this miscreant), I find it yet again at the top of the list.

Let it die. Nafai will soo find his posts falling on deaf ears. Responding (yea, OK, like me at the moment) only encourages the diatribe. Seems to me, that if anyone continues to respond, he wins caus ehe knows he's feeding THEM.

End it. Move on.”

“Yeah! If we stop posting the loud mouth will go away.

Works everytime. MoooooooooHaaaaaaHaaaaa”

“Fook Honey...

Nobody likes a newbie who ain't humble in his status.

You come in blowing hot air when you first arrive, and most people are going to find that damned disagreeable, and inhospitable.

It's also pretentious.

I think I can truthfully say that all of the regulars here welcome new people. I know I do.

It's rare to have someone still literally, and figuratively wet behind their Trail Talk ears making judgement calls on a regular.

These people KNOW me because we've all been talking here for more than a few years.
You get to KNOW people when you trade personal stories over long periods of time.

We hear all about the new babies, grandchildren, wearing too tight underwear, blistered feet, nude hot springs, guns, politics and religion.

We don't KNOW you because you have had little to contribute in the short time you have been posting.

What you have contributed began with a direct personal insult to me, on a topic that for the most part the replies were "just for fun".
And because you're new here, you don't know any of us well enough where you would pick up on that.

Subtlety is lost on you because you are new.

But what you've done is display bad manners, pure and simple.

The people here who KNOW me also know that I do not actually advocate the use of drugs, unless they are OK with dosing themselves with whatever it is they use....
Beer, scotch, pot, prescription medication meted out by a physician, or overdosing on Hagen Daz.

We have had our thread on drinking and driving.
And on that thread I did not extoll the virtues of driving stoned out of your mind.

See, you're new, and you missed that.

One of our regulars was picked up on a DUI (and that might even have been on a bicycle...Who WAS that anyway?!),and I think lost his licence and maybe even had to spend a night in the hoosgow.

I had my own encounters with crashing a car while drunk. And that was 25 years ago. I learned a lesson from that. I didn't die. I was lucky.

If you happen to be a T-Totaler, why that's fine with me.
Your body belongs to you, not the government, or those people who would condemn you for putting into yourself whatever you want.

I advocate freedom of choice. That's all. And that's not illegal.
But a lot of folks aren't comfortable with that idea.
And that's their choice.

I think you're too young to ever have read "Desirderata".
It's an old "hippie" maxim that amounts to doing whatever you want to do as long as it hurts no one else.

I started this thread so EVERYBODY here could see how big you were trying to be for your britches.

You hiding in a thread that not everyone read just kept your rudeness out of the mainstream.
I brought the battle out to you.

Matt the Webmaster is one intelligent guy.
He deletes any thread that violate his personal beliefs. And the only ones like that are generally the SERIOUS ones about drugs..oh...kinky sex is also frowned upon, as is profanity.

Go back and see if you can find Tarpies F--K thread from last year.

You may have noticed that this thread has not been deleted.

Matt knows most of us are grownups, and usually act that way here. He also knows that we can act like a bunch of drunken, drug and sex crazed, gun toting idiots. And none of it means a thing.
He also knows that when we talk about nude jello wrestling, and snorting tequila shooters, we're kidding.

So, here I believe I'll take Strider, and Obi Wan's wise advice..

See you on the air waves....”