pisgah's continuing love adventures

“lipstick hiker, you've inspired me to once again share my continuing adventures wif da womenfolk: nah. . . it didn't really work out with that older girl w/ a boyfriend. She seemed so receptive . . .

I went to talk to her after class one day, and she says "I don't think it would be good if we got involved personally. I mean, we've already gone too far." I'm not exactly sure where THAT came from, but it sucked to hear.

So, I backed off. . . . BUT about a week later, I decided to give it one last parting shot. I tracked her down after class and said something like "I know I screwed up, but here's my number if you ever change or mind or whatever." (I just have THAT much tact. . .) And then, she smiled this devious little smile and giggled (in retrospect, I giggle at myself too) and reassured me otherwise. Then she told me that she had gotten tickets to Center City Fest to see Widespread Panic (they kicked ASS btw) and would see me there.

Of course, I didn't. There were THOUSANDS of people there, and I was lucky to have seen the people that I did. And I was probably lucky not to have seen Ashley as well. I woulda made a fool of myself again.

As I was cleaning out my pockets the next day (of course, so I can put all that junk in the next pair of pants) I ran across that silly little slip of paper with my underlined name and phone number. Apparently, it never got out of my hot little hands. . .

Out of the blue this weekend. . . I was chillin with a good friend of mine at her place, and her parents were gone. (She's a year younger and still in high school) Now, we've been friends since we could toddle around in our diapers. And back in middle school, she was my first girlfriend. Things finished disastrously, and we didn't hardly speak to each other for a year or so.

Anyway, we walked to the park and talked to the park and walked back from the park and talked back from the park. (I'd tell you all the details of our conversation, but you'd be bored, no? You wanna hear about SEX, don't ya? You're so depraved. . . ;^)

We were chillin or what not, and somehow the conversation comes around to her newfound bisexuality.

Now this is very strange: here I am, on the bed of the first girl I ever kissed, talking about what we both find attractive in women.

Strange days. . . very strange days. Somehow or another, she ends up bringing out her Christina Agulara (sp?) desk calendar. She giggled and joked that this is her most prized posession (again, sp?).

So now, here I am, laying on the bed of the first girl I ever kissed, mutually oogling (actually, I think she might've oogled a little harder) a desk calendar targeted at 13 year old teeny-boopers.

The conversation turned once again, and she asked me if I had any Playboy's lying around my house.

So here I am, lying on the bed of the first girl I ever kissed, espousing on the virtues of Playboy magazine.

Eventually, she has me get up, and fetch 'one or two of them.' Meanwhile, she's lying on the bed, thinking of Playboy and Pisgah, and the very sexual Doors CD (American Prayer) that's coming from her stereo. Just a few minutes later, I come tearing up the driveway, screetch to a halt, and go upstairs as calmly, cooly, and collectedly as possible.

So now, here I am laying on the bed of the first girl I ever kissed, getting mutually turned on by the pages of Playboy magazine.

After about an hour or so of laying there and talking about naked women and sex (now guys, talking to a bisexual female about women is a whole lot different than talking to a straight guy about women), we're both getting a little, um, 'hot and bothered' so to speak.

So now, here I am, laying on the bed of the first girl I ever kissed, mutually getting very, very horny. . .

One thing leads to another, and we end up hooking up. I'm gonna spare you of the boring details (yeah, like you'd be bored!. . .), but we had a good time. Now, I'm not sure, and I don't think she is either, what to make of all this. Romantically, we aren't very compatible. Trust me on this one, I've been burned, and I think she has too. As friends though, we've been great since we were little boogers. As lovers (as distinct from romanticly, if that's possible), I'd say we're compatible. . .

So. . . with that melodramatic manifesto, I throw myself to the annals of Trail Talk. What do y'all think I should do?”

“Make shorter posts. :^)”

“LOL Joy! In retrospect, I definately shoulda made that one a little smaller. . .”

“I'm with Ms.Joy...Not only did you repeat a sentence many times, but you said that same sentence over and over again.

Glad you scored the goal you shot for!”

“Maybe you could get to go tag-team with her and another girl!”

“I don't know. Is she hot? If you already banged her, you should just move on, it's never as good as the first time. Unless you can get a threesome, then I would go for it. Remember the words of Snoop and DRE, "Bitches ain't SHIT but Ho's and tricks... lick on these @#$% and @#$# the !@##".”

“TMI”

“I like your storytelling, Pisgah.

Why do people worry so much about where things are going, etc? Just enjoy it!

Wait and see what happens. If you aren't sure about where it's going, just be honest about where it is now. You haven't expressed anything about being madly in love (if you are, then you already KNOW what to do).
If you guys have been great friends for so long, than the talkin' part is easy...

;o)”

“Blech!”

“Thanks AmyG for the first sane bit of advice on this thread. Tarpie, I love ya, but no wonder you got yer ass dumped.”

“This was obviously a physical encounter. If that's what you're looking for, go for it. If it's not, move on.

I disagree with Tarpie (surprised?). Sex gets better as you get to know someone. You learn their rhythms and preferences. Then again, I pick partners who enjoy providing pleasure as much as receiving, unlike testosterone driven teenagers (Tarpie). :o)”

“hmm, i'd think that talking about this to your real world friends would be much more appropriate than posting it here, for the world to see. i'm sure she'd agree.”

“Thanks radlizard. Point taken. I figured a more objective (are y'all really that? wow, maybe not. . .) point of view would do me good. The great majority of my friends are hers too, and the ones that aren't. . . well, they're 'testosterone driven teenagers.'

Sunshine, you're absolutely right about sex gettting better. The problem is all the emotional stuff. You see, I'm a sap when it comes to this kinda thing, and I can get emotional pretty quickly. She comes at things from the opposite point of view. It's hard for her to get intimate. We've seen both our emotions get totally destroyed in 'romantic' relationships with each other before, and we've tried the nympho 'let's just hook up' thing before too, and that didn't work. So I think we're shooting for somewhere in between. Light-hearted fun basically. It's spring, almost summer for god's sake. And now I'm overcerebralizing it again. Note to self: take AmyG's advice, take it as it comes. BE light-hearted about it, dammit!

Okay, now that you've seen my neurotic side in all of it's nekkidness, I'll go back and hide now. ;^P”

“Hey pisqah, take my advice - STAY AWY FROM CHICKS THAT ARE CONFUSED! Unfortunately that makes up abot 90% of the female population, so you have to shoot for the rare 10%. I am still trying to find that needle in the haystack after going through several of the 90%, so I have some experience backing my advice. Good Luck”

“"BE light-hearted about it, dammit!"

LOL Pisgah!
Thats the spirit!
Force your self to be relaxed and accepting, even if you buRst an artery in the process!

AmyG provides some sage advice. (Hmmm does herbal essence come in Sage?)”

“No love w/o a glove!”

“Pisgah, next time just call the thread "GUESS WHAT EVERYONE PISGAH GOT SOME TAIL" it woulda saved me that long and laborious post of yours.

I would be willing to bet that the foundation of a good relationship is not layin pipe on the first date. Where is Dr. Laura?”

“I totally enjoyed your story Pisqa. I think the older women definitely wants to be with you, but just wants to dump her current beau. She probably can't get herself to leave him right now. I think she is being honest, but should have not shown interest in you until she was separated from him already.

About the new younger girl, from what I've seen of bisexual men & women, they both seem to prefer partners of the same sex above all. This girl probably hasn't gotten her kicks with another girl lately, so she went for an easier target, a man.

You should do what you want with your relationship. I personally would only see the younger girl on occasion when she is looking for love for the evening. If you dated her for any length of time, you have to know that she will stray with a women, in my opinion.

Keep this one on the side and move on to someone that will be better suited to you. I think that if you are a person that is kind to women, and you show that you have a lust for something in life, ie., work or hobby, you will look interesting to a great amount of women out there that are DYING to meet a man.”

“Son, you've obviously hooked up with a Slut.
Unless you want to become a Live In Stud to a Shack Up Honey (aka Unpaid Whore) and possibly become a Pedophile breeding Biological Errors in a Godless, Liberal household, put an end to it.
Do the right thing and tell me you're not just aPerverted Guy Looking for a Warm Place to Put It.
Now go take on the day, bastard!”

“She just came out a month ago, so I dunno about wanting to be with another woman. She has no clue what it's like. And hyper, it's hardly a first date. We've known each other for longer than I can remember. . . this weekend was just the next chapter in a strange, strange relationship.

BTW, she came over again this afternoon. I'll spare y'all the details since some people don't like laborious posts.”

“pisqah, she sure seemed to have a big interest in women. She also used that interest (purposefully, I think) to get you worked up. Women can be so sly. There's lots of women that want sex, but they don't want it to seem like it's their idea.

She came over again??? and you're not giving detail????, lol.”

“Pisgah - In order for us to be able to offer the correct advice...we'll need to see some pictures.”

“hey there dude, I'm workin first postin pictures of myself. Like basic identification stuff! Give it a while . . .”

“;^P forgot to add that. . .

yes lipstick hiker, women can be soo sly. It's incredible. . .”

“pisqah, m-nutz has the right perspective here. Pics would be nice. Maybe your friend has a driver's license pic to post too, lol.”

“lol ;^P”

“Ms. Hiking Lipstick,

I and numerous others in the mental health profession would appreciate it if you would stop trying to help, bastard. Giving lame advice of dubious value is my department. Are you your parrot's mother? BAWWWWWK!”

“What exactly dies bi-sexual mean?”

“Richard-
That's a chick who rides the Rubber Rodeo AND the Baloney Pony.”

“Is she sleeping around on you. Ya know there is something you can do about that.”

“Been there, done that!

Get it while you can, because it won't be long before a another woman comes into her life.”

“Dr. Laura, I am my parrot's mama. He can't understand my advise; maybe that's why he is so happy, lol.

I give hubby advise. Sometimes he takes it, sometimes he doesn't. I don't force anything on him. We have found that when he doesn't take my advise, things don't turn out as well. People need the opportunity to do as they like, even though they might be wrong.

Buddur, right on!”

“Dude, you have a chance at a three-way, don't pass that up.”

“Continuation:

Lipstick, you were right. She wants a woman right now.

She's been obsessed with this girl (Ms. Teen NC, actually!). We (all her friends) have talked to her about it, and it looks like she's backing off. Time will tell.

On the Eastern Front, there's a promising girl I've been talking to who's gonna be on my floor next year at McGill. She's really cute too.

Again, time will tell.”

“My old girlfriend that's gay always liked Jane Fonda. We were 13 at the time.

Good luck with the new prospect, but don't count on her. Keep your eyes open, smile and say hello to every girl you see. Process feedback & proceed :{}”

“Thanks LH. Will do.”

“Uh oh, you're going to listen to me, yikes. I have to put a disclaimer on it.

If you use any of my advice, I cannot guarantee that you will get the desired results or any results, or you might just get slapped. It's kind of like buying one of those hair or breast growing products. I guarantee nothing. Take it at your own risk :{}”

“breast growing products? wtf?? I've never seen any of those before. . .”

“Well, tonight there's been a new development.

(if you really give a sh!t)

Tonight, I went out with some of my bi friend's friends (she's studying for the SAT II's). One of them, the girl to whom she first came out - and who came out as bi at the same time - and I really hit it off. Bacpac, she's a Bisexual Jewish Socialist who jokes about a Sierra Club plot to kill the President. :^) Her summer job is going door-to-door collecting money to prevent drilling in ANWR. So, we'll see how that works out. We're gonna have dinner next wed night (after they're exams) with our mutual friend and one other girl.

So. . .we'll wait and see. I hope this one doesn't want a girl instead of little ole me. . .”

“F**KFEST 2001!!!!
You Da Man!!!!”

“V.D. is for everyone.............”

“Sheesh, now the young people talk about what kind of sex they like before they even ask each other out? Did you two at least flirt with each other? Trade clever banter? Offer the other a taste of food off of your plate? Admire each other's earrings and tattoos, or compare sporting equipment?

Bacpac, what does your daughter talk about with a boy before they decide to go on a date? Does she tell you?”

“pisqah, there's a breast suction product out there as well as pills to enduce your breasts to grow. Your not thinking of.....uh....fitting in are you..... grow some breasts .....maybe slip in unnoticably amongst the bi-girls, lol?

Seriously, if you want a fling with this new bi-chick, you'll probably be okay. Anything long term, and she's going to cheat on you with a women, unless she's honest and just tells you.”

“young&creaky: no we flirted. We didn't even bring up her sexuality. I just knew about it beforehand.

Compare sporting equipment?? lol

You've seen too many gear threads. . . :^)”

“Better she cheats on ya with another chick than another dude. That would be kinda cool I'd think. If Susan ever did that, I prolly get excited!”

“Pisgah, not gear threads. I think I just hang out with a lot of adults with kids in sports. We adults get inline skates, bikes, ice skates, etc. because the kids have them. Golf, running, and tennis are popular too. We compare equipment and give advice. Like the neighbor who saw me diving into bushes while skating, because I couldn't get the hang of braking. She got her skates on and then taught me how not to kill myself. I guess you and your friend don't talk sports equipment. Sorry to have mentioned it.”

“Lot's of women rub toilet paper on their breasteses, look at how big it makes their asses!”