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What's wrong with Polygamy?View MessagesViewing posts 101 to 127 of 127 messages posted.
Jump to Page << prev   | 1   | 2   |  3 | “It's one of the darkest secrets of the Warren Jeffs polygamist community. An especially severe form of birth defect is on the rise and may mushroom in coming generations. "I don't want to describe it in too much detail," said Isaac Wyler, who was related by marriage to some of the victims. "It's not a real pretty sight." According to experts and former Jeffs followers, the cause of the birth defect is clear: Intermarriage among close relatives is producing children who have two copies of a recessive gene for a debilitating condition called Fumarase Deficiency. They predict the scale of the problem will increase dramatically in the future. Wyler, who has lived in the polygamist community most of his life, said he expects residents to continue marrying close relatives. "Around here," Wyler said, "you're pretty much related to everybody." Fumarase Deficiency is an enzyme irregularity that causes severe mental retardation, epileptic seizures and other cruel effects that leave children nearly helpless and unable to take care of themselves. Dr. Theodore Tarby has treated many of the children at clinics in Arizona under contracts with the state. All are retarded. "In the severe category of mental retardation," the neurologist said, "which means an IQ down there around 25 or so." Until a few years ago, scientists knew of only 13 cases of Fumarase Deficiency in the entire world. Tarby said he's now aware of 20 more victims, all within a few blocks of each other on the Utah-Arizona border. The children live in the polygamist community once known as Short Creek that is now incorporated as the twin towns of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Ariz. Tarby believes the recessive gene for Fumarase Deficiency was introduced to the community by one of its early polygamist founders. According to community historian Ben Bistline, most of the community's 8,000 residents are in two major families descended from a handful of founders who settled there in the 1930s to live a polygamist lifestyle. "Ninety percent of the community is related to one side or the other," Bistline said. more: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635182923,00.html” 6:21:44 PM 2/13/06 “Guess the breeding will end soon enough.” 6:25:31 PM 2/13/06 “I'm reading Under the banner of Heaven right now....very creepy stuff!” 6:50:37 PM 2/13/06 “sorry Bear magnet but low IQ usually equals more kids, not less.” 4:00:14 PM 2/14/06 “"Fumarase Deficiency is an enzyme irregularity that causes severe mental retardation, epileptic seizures and other cruel effects that leave children nearly helpless and unable to take care of themselves. Dr. Theodore Tarby has treated many of the children at clinics in Arizona under contracts with the state. All are retarded. "In the severe category of mental retardation," the neurologist said, "which means an IQ down there around 25 or so." That ain't even close to functional. Those less severe that continue to inbreed will produce more severly affected offspring until none can reproduce anymore. "Amplification" last edited: 2/14/06 4:42:49 PM” 4:42:13 PM 2/14/06 “Good book, daydreamer. I was reading it right after it was published, and what happens -- a couple of LDS mission dudes knocked on the door! I told them they oughta read it! I lived in a very Mormon part of Utah for a couple of years (79-81). There was a weird vibe to the place, to be sure.” 7:41:46 PM 2/14/06 “Don't confuse what's going on with the Warren Jeff's colony and others of their ilk with the membership of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. (Mormons). None of these people are members of the church, nor do they follow it's teachings.” 6:41:24 AM 2/15/06 “Jeffs found GUILTY on both counts!!!! Woo Hoo!!!! Max sentence could be life in prison!” 1:24:59 PM 9/25/07 “Nawwwwww........... too easy. ;-0” 1:26:58 PM 9/25/07 “why would anyone want to marry more than one woman? i mean really. i have been married to one (1) for 15 years and this is enough for me thank you very much. the guy should be checked into a loony bin!” 1:29:11 PM 9/25/07 “That's just it, they ain't marrying women. They are marrying girls.” 1:33:18 PM 9/25/07 “I really don't see anything wrong with marrying more than one woman if that's what they wanna do. Women of age that is.” 1:36:33 PM 9/25/07 “who?” 2:49:41 PM 9/25/07 “ I thought it said, "What's wrong with Ptolemy?" n   e   v   e   r   m   i   n   d     -   -   -   -  ” 4:07:57 PM 9/25/07 “marko is spot on here.” 4:09:30 PM 9/25/07 “So Nigal would you be one of a few husbands?? Polygamy means more than one spouse not more than one wife as it is most often used.” 4:11:29 PM 9/25/07 “Would I? No. But that's my choice. Either way it is between consenting adults.” 4:48:59 PM 9/25/07 “if a man is talking, and tango is not around to hear him, is he still wrong?” 5:07:00 PM 9/25/07 “what man?” 5:15:25 PM 9/25/07 “As long as they aren't on the taxpayers buck. Consenting adults - no need for stacks of laws.” 6:04:48 PM 9/25/07 “I like Tango. She can bring it. Takes a bit of effort to shake her off you leg when she sinks in. She brings facts to most debates which is more than can be said for most of the guys here.” 6:08:52 PM 9/25/07 “why would anyone want to marry more than one woman? i mean really. i have been married to one (1) for 15 years and this is enough for me thank you very much. - js Somebody's wife reads trailtalk!” 6:20:02 PM 9/25/07 “It's hard enough to get along with one, much less multiple spouses.” 6:34:23 PM 9/25/07 “The only thing wrong with poligamy is that it is not legal in this country. Some men have a heart of stone, and never marry, and some men have a heart of gold, and end a marriage after the money runs out, and then some men just have a lot of love to share. And want to do so. But rape and incest is another thing, so wrong.” 6:40:20 PM 9/25/07 “Oh great! Now we have to not only pay for the wal-mart employees 3 kids so they can buy a new X-Box 360 - now we have to pay for the dudes other 23 kids he had with all his wives.” 6:44:15 PM 9/25/07 “Most who practice this pay there own way, a concept very unpopular here in the USA. Lots of single women with kids are on the welfare programs, supporting there boyfriends, or husbands. Heck you even got some people who think its a way of life. Not many if any poligamist are on the welfare programs last edited: 9/25/07 6:46:05 PM” 6:53:31 PM 9/25/07 “now they do ... Wait until the general population gets in on it.” 7:00:07 PM 9/25/07
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