Stormin' Mormons

“The whole Osmond family sucks.”

“Ah come on. Lets lay off bashing. I know we all feel the need to be better than somebody but does it have to be public???”

“The secretary at my new job showed me pics of her and her daughter and Donny Osmond at his last concert. They got to go backstage, meet him and all. It was cool...for her!

I remember Mormons coming to our door all dressed alike...black pants and shoes, white shirts and ties and clean cut. You could spot 'em from a mile. Very nice people, though!”

“The LDS bashing is really getting old. Have we done something to offend you??? I know I never pushed my religious views on anyone. I'm a bit puzzled by the sarcastic and ignorant comments I've been reading here lately.”

“I'd do Marie Osmond.”

“I made one flip remark which, especially in retrospect, looks like needless Mormon bashing. I regret that comment.

On the other hand, when a group tries to win converts and sends missionaries into communities to spread their message, it hardly makes sense that its critics be silent.

It can be hard to find the line between reasonable criticism and disagreement about ideas and unwarranted put downs/bashing. The post that started this thread was on the wrong side of that line.”

“I made one flip remark which, especially in retrospect, looks like needless Mormon bashing. I regret that comment.

On the other hand, when a group tries to win converts and sends missionaries into communities to spread their message, it hardly makes sense that its critics be silent.

It can be hard to find the line between reasonable criticism and disagreement about ideas and unwarranted put downs/bashing. The post that started this thread was on the wrong side of that line.”

“I agree with Walkindude!And MaryPhyl.”

“I'm not bashing mormons, just the Osmonds. And I'd do Marie too walkin' dude”

“If we removed all the bashing threads what would we have left?”

“lol bacpac”

“If you weren't bashing Mormons why the title to your thread?
PedXing, do you not think other groups do the same? They send their missionaries to other countries. You just don't see it here in the states.
Buy the way I am not a mormon but I am married to one.
All groups try to convert people to their beliefs.”

“Have I implied in any way that I don't like mormons, or have I bashed the mormon religion at all? I think not, I just like making fun of the Osmonds. Please lighten up. I am glad that you are married to a Mormon, its cool that they didn't try to convert you!”

“I'm not criticizing Mormon's for trying to convert or recruit people. I agree lots of groups do that and everyone one of them is a fair target for criticism.

If you go out and sell an ideology, others have the right (and sometimes the obligation) to to point out disagreements - to "block the sale."

Jewish, Buddhist, Protestant, Catholic, Moslem, Zoarastrian, Pagan... I think everyone has a right to argue for their beliefs and people who disagree can argue back.

I think we are allowed to get a bit silly, and have some fun doing it too. I have to admit that I change my mind about how far is too far. When it seems one sided I tend to be more cautious.

"I want it to be remembered that I kicked Dick Nixon while he was up." Hunter Thompson”

“Well even though I put a post on this subject my thoughts on anyone knocking on doors should not be aloud. I don't like others beliefs pushed on me.I take this stand with everyone.
I don't believe in converting or saving the masses.
PedXing maybe I didn't understand your post. I took it that Mormons were the only ones out there converting the masses.
I am not serious about this thread just posting my thoughts on the issue.
I am a person that gets too excited about this stuff just thoughts.
Sorry if you thought I needed to lighten up.
Oh by the way they have tried to convert me but after 27 years I guess they gave up.....LOL”

“What "sux" about the Osmonds? They are a perfect example of a great American success story. They have talent galore, and have utilized it to make their corner of the world a better place - and get damned rich in the process. Their examples of virute and hard work are things we can all aspire to duplicate - regardless of our religious convictions.

Hiking Bare -
Won't you elaborate?”

“Their songs sucked, their stupid Christmas specials sucked, Donnie is a fruitcake, Marie eats too much fruitcakes, and they represent everyting that is wrong with society today. The Baldwin family is much better by far.”

“no, the baldwins are idiots.

they should only open their mouths while acting.”

“Who gives a Rat's A$$.”

“You are right rad, the Balwins suck too, but they are better than the Osmonds! :)”

“The Baldwins are gone, aren't they?
Aren't they among the bunch-o Hollywood types that were gonna move to Zimbabwe (or something) if GW got elected?
/o:

What gives?!
...inquiring minds wanna know.”

“they wussed out.”

“i thought that barbara was going, too.”

“Just like true liberals, they never meant what they were actuallt saying!”

“Is there anyway other than "aloud" to knock on a door?”

“Hiking Bear, bashin the Mormons and the Osmonds is one thing but I draw the line on bashin Fruitcake!”

“lol, no offense to fruitcake!”

“Barb... I was just clarifying. I had no bone to pick with you. Your comments were welcome.

By the way, Collin Street Bakery in Corsicana Texas makes damn good Fruitcake.”

“Claxton, GA -
Fruitcake capital of the world.”

“"[The Osmonds] represent everyting that is wrong with society today." (Hiking Bear)

I'm no Osmonds fan, but are you saying that the Osmonds stand for fatherless families, high divorce rates, gun violence among children, glorification of violence in the media, and the desensitation and depersonalization of modern life?

"I'm not criticizing Mormon's for trying to convert or recruit people. I agree lots of groups do that and everyone one of them is a fair target for criticism.... If you go out and sell an ideology, others have the right (and sometimes the obligation) to point out disagreements - to 'block the sale.'"

"Jewish, Buddhist, Protestant, Catholic, Moslem, Zoarastrian, Pagan... I think everyone has a right to argue for their beliefs and people who disagree can argue back." (PedXing)

Ped, you make some good points in your posts. Don't go too much for the moral equivalency, though. Not all religious groups proslytise. I don't think in all of history a Jew has ever tried to convince a non-Jew to become Jewish. Doesn't happen. Buddists and pagans don't do "missionary" work either.

And while everyone here is bashing the Mormons for doing the same sort of missionary work that plenty of other Christian groups do, personally I save my harshest criticisms for the Southern Baptists. They are among the most active proslytisers within the United States, and, most offensively, specifically target Jewish (and Moslem) communities, and specifically target those communities at the time of their most important holidays. Don't go to temple for Rosh Hashana because you're still going to hell for not accepting Jesus -- this is their basis message. Imagine if I came to your door on Christmas morning and told you that you should stop celebrating Christmas because you've picked the wrong religion and you're going to hell. How nice.”

“I'll make it easy for you mutha's....ALL religions are wrong, wrong, wrong!!!
You're all gonna die!!!”

“Hey, take it easy everybody, I like mormons, just as much as I like catholics and baptists I was simply poking some fun at the Osmonds. And to dispute your claim expolrer, I believ Marie is divorced, I saw them with guns during some xmas special, and I was personally demoralized with life after having to watch their "Everything is Wonderful" Christmas specials. Maybe I'd respect em' more if they did a christmas special in the inner city, and didn't tell anyone about it or broadcast it.

Have a nice day!”

“So what have you done in the inner city?
It's okay... you can tell us.”

“I have helped a young kid by mentoring him. I've participated in a program to help clean up local inner city ballfields, so the kids have a safe place to play. I've built homes, and repaired old one with habitat for humanity, I've donated my time during the last two Thanksgiving holidays to collect food and serve dinners to needy families. And, holy Toledo, I'm a Republican. Sorry gojo, I put my money where my mouth is, I just hope those democrats get their greedy paws off more of MY money, so I can help some more!”

“"Like a Theif in the night,
When the goin' gets tough,
I will give you my heart,
Cuase I'm a soldier of love."
-- Donnie Osmond”

“A lot of people don't have free money or time to help others. Time spent helping others can be better than spending money.

Wouldn't it be nice if the government had us keep $200 of our taxes, and had everyone use it to help other people and communities.”

“Want to know more about mormons? Go to www.mormons.com.”

“What to know more about morons? Go to www.morons.com.”

“Wow Mr Bear, YOU helped those commie rats at Habitat for Humanity?
That's a good thing!

I like the Carpenters!”

“Oh yeah, the Carpenters.

Love, look at the two of us,
strangers in many ways.....”

“Hey, hey, I've got a whole lot of respect for Habitat for Humanity. Jimmy Carter is the poster child, and I'm a republican. But I do Habitat houses with my boys, by the way.

I like the ethic, the old fashioned "barn raising" atmosphere. Also, if the house is going to be yours, you must put in a requisite number of hours, even if your only talent is sweeping the floors. They don't give handouts there to lazy , system abusing folks. They give a hand up to those who truly need it and are willing to work for it. They have even repossessed some homes from a few who tried to take them for a ride.

My kind of charity. A hand up to those willing to pull themselves up by the bootstraps!”

“Jimmy Carter rocks! So does Habitat for Humanity. I give them money. I'll do some work for them too one of these days...”

“Fruitcakes
By: Jimmy Buffett, Amy Lee
1994
--Spoken:
"You know I was talking to my friend Desdemona the other day she
runs this space station and bake shop down near Boomtown. She told
me that human beings are flawed individuals. The cosmic bakers
took us out of the oven a little too early. And that's the
reason we're as crazy as we are and I believe it."

"Take for example when you go to the movies these days, you know.
They try to sell you this jumbo drink, 8 extra ounces of watered
down cherry coke for an extra 25 cents. I don't want it.
I don't want that much organziation in my life.
I don't want other people thinking for me.
I want my Junior Mints. Where did the Junior Mints go in the
movies. I don't want a 12 lb. Nestle's crunch for 25 dollars. I
want Junior Mints."

"We need more fruitcakes in this world and less bakers!
We need people that care! I'm mad as hell! And I don't want to
take it anymore!"

Chorus:
Fruitcakes in the kitchen (Fruitcakes in the kitchen)
Fruitcakes on the street (Fruitcakes on the street)
Struttin' naked through the crosswalk
In the middle of the week
Half-baked cookies in the oven (Cookies in the oven)
Half-baked people on the bus (People on the bus)
There's a little bit of fruitcake left in everyone of us

Paradise, lost and found
Paradise, take a look around
I was out in California where I hear they have it all
They got riots, fires, mud slides
They've got sushi in the mall
Water bars, brontasaurs, chinese modern lust
Shake and bake life with the quake
The secret's in the crust

Chorus:
Fruitcakes in the kitchen (Fruitcakes in the kitchen)
Fruitcakes on the street (Fruitcakes on the street)
Struttin' naked through the crosswalk
In the middle of the week
Half-baked cookies in the oven (Cookies in the oven)
Half-baked people on the bus (People on the bus)
There's a little bit of fruitcake left in everyone of us

--Spoken:
"Speakin' of fruitcakes, how 'bout the government?
Your tax dollars at work."

We lost our Martian rocket ship
The high paid spokesman said
Looks like that silly rocket ship
Has lost its cone shaped head
We spent 90 jillion dollars trying to get a look at Mars
I hear universal laughter ringing out among the stars

Chorus:
Fruitcakes in the galaxy (Fruitcakes in the galaxy)
Fuitcakes on the earth (Fruitcakes on the earth)
Struttin' naked towards eternity
We've been that way since birth
Half-baked cookies in the oven (Cookies in the oven)
Half-baked people on the bus (People on the bus)
There's a little bit of fruitcake left in everyone of us

--Spoken:
"Religion! Religion! Oh, there's a thin line between Saturday
night and Sunday morning. Here we go now.
Alright, alter boys."

Mea Culpa Mea Culpa Mea Maxima Culpa
Mea Culpa Mea Culpa Mea Maxima Culpa

Where's the church, who took the steeple
Religion is in the hands of some crazy-ass people
Television preachers with bad hair and dimples
The god's honest truth is it's not that simple
It's the Buddhist in you, it's the Pagan in me
It's the Muslim in him, she's Catholic ain't she?
It's the born again look its the WASP and the Jew
Tell me what's goin on, I ain't gotta clue

--Spoken:
"Now here comes the big ones. Relationships! We all got 'em, we
all want 'em. What do we do with 'em?
Here we go, I'll tell ya."

She said you gotta do your fair share
Now cough up half the rent
I treat my body like a temple
You treat yours like a tent
But the right word at the right time
May get me a little hug
That's the difference between lightning
And a harmless lightnin' bug

Chorus:
Fruitcakes in the kitchen (Fruitcakes in the kitchen)
Fruitcakes on the street (Fruitcakes on the street)
Struttin' naked through the crosswalk
In the middle of the week
Half-baked cookies in the oven (Cookies in the oven)
Half-baked people on the bus (People on the bus)
There's a little bit of fruitcake left in everyone of us

--Spoken:
"The future. Captain's log, stardate two thousand and something."

We're seven years from the millenium
That's a science fiction fact
Stanley Kubrick and his buddy HAL
Now don't look that abstract
So I'll put on my Bob Marley tape
And practice what I preach
Get Jah lost in the reggae mon
As I walk along the beach
Stay in touch with my insanity really is the only way
Its a jungle out there kiddies
Have a very fruitful day
Hey.

Chorus:
Fruitcakes in the kitchen (Fruitcakes in the kitchen)
Fruitcakes on the street (Fruitcakes on the street)
Struttin' naked through the crosswalk
In the middle of the week
Half-baked cookies in the oven (Cookies in the oven)
Half-baked people on the bus (People on the bus)
There's a little bit of fruitcake left in everyone of us

--Spoken:
"That's right, you too. Yeah those crumbs are spread all around
this universe. I've seen fruitcakes. I saw this guy in Santa
Monica rollerskate naked through the crosswalk. Down in New
Orleans in the French market there are fruitcakes like you cannot
believe. New York, forget it. Fruitcake city. Down island, we've got
fruitcakes. Spread them crumbs around. That's right, we want
'em around. Keep bakin' baby. Keep bakin'."”

“Am in the process of putting together a work crew from my law firm for the Habitat Build-a-thon. I have been building for 4 years and organizing the firm's efforts for three (quick, someone run for the box of gold stars!!).

It's a fun opportunity to drive nails at someone else's house.”

“lee-

That's very nice, but what on Earth does it have to do with fruitcakes? Stick to the topic please!”

“Maybe we should start a TT Habitat for Humanity Chapter, hell, a TT Political Party. Thinair would have to be the copy boy though!”

“Secondly, as I said elsewhere, I think the mainstream Mormon church (LDS) can be called to account for failing to confront its racist traditions. This is something that other churches, including the Catholic church, have at least moved to address, admit, acknoiwledge and repent.”

“Stormin' Mormons......... that can be the newest pro athletic team of whatever type in Salt Lake City. Course, ya know it'd have ta be Stormin' Mormonzz to keep with that silly new tradition.”

“I want the rights to the name so I can collect the royalties”