Inserts?

“Ok I just got these boots, no one will know the brand cause they are from NO Bull which makes 100% Vegan shoes and stuff. They feel fine so far but my problem is I have pretty high arches. Most the time I only feel comfortable in Birkenstocks. So I'm looking for inserts for them. The soles are removealble in these so that helps. I've been looking at both Birkenstock blue-footbeds and Superfeet high profile hiking inserts. Does anyone have any personal experience to add to this? The boots are kinda snug but I think with the removeable insole I can fit just about anything.
Tarn”

“Oh, a boot thread.

The title threw me.












I have the Superfeet inserts (the green ones) and don't know how I ever lived without them.”

“Well inserts for boots I suppose.”

“I also use the Superfeet insole inserts and like Violin, do not know how I ever lived without them.

I use the green ones. I think those are the ones that replace the insert that come with the shoe. I think the blue Superfeet insole inserts are the ones designed for shoes that do not have removable insoles.”

“I have the Superfeet inserts, as well. They're very comfy. Custom orthotics are even better, but pricey.”

“YESSSS. Superfeet are the way to go. Around $25.”

“Agreed. Don't know how my feet made it backpacking before green superfeets...”

“The Birkenstock ones are like $40 so the $25 to $30 I'd pay for the Superfeet would be as bad.”

“Wouldn't I mean.”

“vegan boots? Sheesh, what's next?!”

“Hey, what's wrong with not being a hypocrite? If I'm not gonna eat a dead cow I'm not gonna wear one either.”

“I recently bought some magnetic inserts. I have a low arch and they seem to help. I have only been on day hikes with them. They look and feel like regular inserts, but now my compass is a little wacky.”

“Good for you, seriously. Just because you dont eat meat doesn't necessarily mean you have to share the holier-than-thou views of most vegans. I know a lot of people that simply don't like meat or choose to get their nutrition elsewhere. It does not mean their hypocrites!”

“Basicly I think that what you eat or wear is a personal choice. I'm not gonna bitch at someone for eating meat or leather. Fur and veal maybe. I vegitarians who claim to do it because eating meat is morally wrong but then buy a leather jacket have a warpped sense of morality if you ask me. Don't assume all vegans are creppy martyrs. Insidently I'm not fully a vegan, I eat honey, milk, and eggs. I just try to buy them from good, organic farms and I don't wear anything that came from an animals death. Wool and silk are fine by me.”

“I didn't even know what vegan meant.

Pass the A-1 sauce please”

“How can you be part-vegan? Doesn't that basically make you a vegetarian?

www.dictionary.com says:

veg·an (vgn, vjn)
n.

A vegetarian whose diet consists of plant products only.

Seems like if you eat honey, milk & eggs, a pair of leather boots should be the least of your worries.

But anyway, I didn't really mean to pick a fight, you just came off as being really elitist with you assuming nobody here would know the brand, then the hypocrite comment followed by post where we find out your really breaking your own rules.

peace out...”

“The term Vegan is a person that does not any animal products. They eat a plant based diet only. An ovo-lacto vegetarian is somone that doesn't eat animal flesh, but does consume eggs and milk. That's what they claim in one of my cookbooks.”

“I'm pretty sure a fat ass who drinks beer and eats burgers is a fat ass.

If a fat ass drinks beer, but only eats veggies is he a veganfatter? Fattervegan?

What is a couch potato?”

“geez. lay off this guy. he was perfectly clear in explaining his views and i did not see them as elitist at all.

by the way, i'm a vagitarian.”

“A puss?”

“no, it deals with my diet.

you know, what i eat?

do i have to explain it to you, you sausagatarian?”

“LMAO!”

“can't you just feel the love?”

“Anyone who asks any gear questions here is obviously a total hypocrite looking for a flame war.

Glad you didn't let him/her get away with that one switch.

Sheez.”

“Woah! You all are pretty dang touchy. Ok, I'm an elitist er something cause I figured I was the only person nuts enough to spend the extra money for non-leather boots. So I'm a fake cause I eat eggs and dairy but won't wear a dead animal (ovo-lacto vegitarian with vegan tendencies?). But in truth I just a gal with new boots, high arches and a need for good inserts. So could we quit with the stupid food debate and get on with the effort to offer help and advice to fellow backpackers and campers?”

“Stop being sensible Tarnneth!

(I hope you recognized my sarcasm - both times.)

Unfortunately it seems a lot of people come here for a fight some days. I don't think your initial post came off as elitist or anything.

Most of us are easily distracted and will wander off topic for a laugh.

Its a nut house but a fun one.”

“There are other vegetatians and vegans here. I am not one of them. You seem to be a sensible person. Welcome, and good luck with your funny boots.”

“Scanning the menu bacpac does not find what he wants. The diner next to him, a scruffy guy in a royal blue cycling shirt, has a scrumptious meal in front of him.

"I'll have what he is having."”

“I just tired of justifing myself all the time. But anyway the boots are breaking in just fine. Really if anyone is looking for a good pair of non-leather hiking boots or any other stuff go to www.pangeaveg.com. Let us continue now with the friendly debateing.”

“my posts were supposed to be light-hearted jabs. Maybe I missed the mark. Some days I'm more spunky than others.

I have nothing further to say about your eating habits or your choice in boots. I was simply taken suprise by the vegan-boot thing. Please accept my best tarpie-like apology.”

“Those hippie freaks are in Twinbrook! Tarpie, go check them out.”

“yeah so...

Custom superfeet. I don't know if'n theyr'e vegan, but they work good for me. Makes a good boot fit better.”

“No offence really, you are of course entitled to your opinion. Both my roommate and my father told me I should just get leather boots cause they didn't trust the non-leather ones to be any good. I'm happy with them though and I think they will be more then adequate. So if anyone knows someone looking for stuff like pass the word that they can be found.”

“The Superfeet look good and I'm pretty sure there are no dead animals in them. Dead dinosuars maybe but heck we didn't kill those.”

“I used to just slip roadkill into my boots but found the Superfeet work much better and are more 'animal-friendly'.”

“FYI-
If you do a google.com search for "thread degeneration" (with the quotes), two of the top three results lead you to Trail Talk.”

“I'd think road-kill be kinda wet, squishy and smelly but hey if it worked for you. thread degenaration what's that? ;P”

“I LOVE my green Superfeet. My legs get tired, my back aches, but my feet never hurt anymore. Like everyone else, I don't know how I got along without them.”

“Boot inserts ----> road kill.

Degeneration.”

“Hmmm, there's a task for a mad alchemist. Turning boot inserts into road kill.”

“By the end of a hike my feet are usually a little wet, squishy and smelly anyway so I never really noticed.

Thread degeneration is what always happens here. You start out on one topic and by the time you get to the tenth post it's a completely different thread altogether. Sorta like that telephone game where you pass the message along to the next person in a circle and by the time it gets back to the beginning... Sometimes it happens even sooner, even on the first post! There's even a body of knowledge surrounding the phenomenon:

The Wilcox/McCandlish Law

Of Online Discourse Evolution

(and Corollaries)

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THE WILCOX/MCCANDLISH LAW OF ONLINE DISCOURSE EVOLUTION

The chance of success of any attempt to change the topic or direction of a thread of discussion in a networked forum is directly proportional to the quality of the current content.

MCCANDLISH'S FIRST COROLLARY TO THE WILCOX/MCCANDLISH LAW

The chance of any change to the topic or direction of a thread being a change for the better is inversely proportional to the quality of the content before the change.

THE EXCEPTION TO MCCANDLISH'S FIRST COROLLARY

When a thread reaches the flame-war stage, all changes in thread topic or direction will be changes for the worse.

MCCANDLISH'S SECOND COROLLARY TO THE WILCOX/MCCANDLISH LAW

Thread bandwidth consumption increases in inverse proportion to thread content quality.

WILCOX'S COROLLARY TO THE WILCOX/MCCANDLISH LAW

The more involved one is in a flame-war, the less likely one is to recognize it as such.

THE WILCOX/MCCANDLISH PARADOX

Thread degeneration can (theoretically) be forestalled or even reversed by citation to the Wilcox/McCandlish Law.”

“A good running store will carry some top inserts. If there is a "Walking Company" in your area, they have a coustom insert set-up in the store. Very cool set up. Stand on this pressure sensitive pad and a computer reads the pressures and prints out a graph. Just hit send and your mailing info and they come to your house. $65.oo.”

“I just visited the podiatrist this week. (One of the reasons I'm not sleeping under the trekker tarp, under the stars right now). He prescribed me New Balance inserts. He claims they're just as good as orthapedics but less expensive. They have them for pronaters, flat feet, high arches etc. We have a New Balance store w/in forty miles of us. I don't know where else you could find them.”

“I have neither a Walking Store or a New Balence store near by, I'm in Nebraska”

“WOW!! Sore feet AND you live in Nebraska!!

Sorry.”

“Yeah, rotten luck havn't I?”

“welcome Tarnneth. I see you've found yourself right at home. . .”